No First Club Rings Draft - Discussion

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Post#1 » by durantbird » Sat Aug 30, 2025 10:08 am

Draft Rules:

1. All NBA seasons from 1989-90 to 2024-25 are eligible, subject to the restrictions outlined below.

2. You will be required to draft a total of 8 players in 8 rounds. Each of your players must play a minimum of 8 minutes in your rotations. Any player chosen in a season that is pre-merger will have a multiplier of 0.85 applied against their actual fga, rounded to closest 0.1.

3. Your team will be allowed a combined total of 88.0 FGA with a minimum of 3.0 FGA per player corresponding with the specific seasons indicated for each player. NOTE: You may pick a player whose actual FGA number was lower than 3.0, but you still be charged 3.0 for that player.

4. Each player you select must have played at least 50% of regular season games in the season selected. He needs to play at least 50% of his games for an eligible franchise.

5. Eligible players are those who did not win a championship with the NBA team they first played for.

A player won a ring in a given year if he's marked as such in basketball reference. A "team" means every official-history iteration of the franchise.

Clarification: players like LeBron James or Jason Kidd whose first clubs were Cavs/Dallas but won a ring in their second iteration with the club, are still ineligible.

6. We will be doing a modified snake draft. It will go like this: ABBABABA.

7. Players will get a maximum of a 2-hour window to make their selection when they are on the clock. If you still have not chosen a player by then, or if the player you have chosen is ineligible, you will be skipped. Also, if you know ahead of time that you won't be available to make your pick on the clock then please PM your selection to another participant. NOTE: If you miss one pick and have failed to make it by the time your next pick comes around, you will be skipped.

8. The clock will be turned off between 12 midnight and 9 AM EDT.

9. Draft order will be completely randomized.

10. After you have made your draft selection, please quote and/or PM the person that goes after you so they will know that it is their turn and they are on the clock. You may not change your pick after it has been made, even if the next person in the order has not picked yet. Please note that the clock starts whenever the previous drafter has either made their pick or their two-hour window has expired, even if the next person is not quoted.

11. The winner of the draft will be determined by polls. AI will be used as a single vote when a matchup is tied and stuck.

Team Roster Page Rules:

You will be responsible for creating a roster page for your fantasy team. Here are the things that you will be required to include on your roster page:

. Players
. Rotations
. Draft selections
. The most important of all, you must show the total FGA per player on your roster AND a total sum of each players FGA to display that it is under the required 88.0 FGA

-All of the above must be completed before playoffs/rankings

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Post#2 » by Dr Positivity » Sat Aug 30, 2025 3:43 pm

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Post#3 » by Snakebites » Sat Aug 30, 2025 4:48 pm

What is the reason behind the two different time frames for the two groups?
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Post#4 » by durantbird » Sat Aug 30, 2025 6:37 pm

Snakebites wrote:What is the reason behind the two different time frames for the two groups?

1) Avoid a too large pool, 2) Make it less about the "no rings at all" pool that we already researched not once, but more about the "rings but elsewhere" group which is more unique to this draft
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Post#5 » by Fadeaway_J » Sat Aug 30, 2025 6:58 pm

Honestly, all these extra restrictions feel like they're begging for someone to mess up the rules. I would just pick one time frame and work with the basic premise.
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Post#6 » by durantbird » Sat Aug 30, 2025 8:01 pm

Fadeaway_J wrote:Honestly, all these extra restrictions feel like they're begging for someone to mess up the rules. I would just pick one time frame and work with the basic premise.

Essentially, you're right. My plan was to quote everyone (and maybe also PM) before we start to make sure they read the rules carefully, specifically rule 5. Thing is, if we choose a more limited timeframe (e.g. 1990s to now) we get a clean simple rules framing, and a balanced pool, but I also feel we kinda lose the essence of the draft, because we get too close to "No Rings Draft", at least in terms of top end talent. Maybe I overthink it.

** EDIT: I researched the pool again, and I'm fine with simplification. We actually get an nice mix of "no rings" and "rings but elsewhere" pools, both in top end talent and supporting cast. Changed the rules accordingly.
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Post#7 » by Laimbeer » Sat Aug 30, 2025 8:16 pm

"Eligible players are those who did not win a championship with their first NBA/ABA team."

I'd leave it at that.
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Post#8 » by Fadeaway_J » Sat Aug 30, 2025 8:23 pm

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Post#9 » by durantbird » Sat Aug 30, 2025 8:24 pm

Laimbeer wrote:"Eligible players are those who did not win a championship with their first NBA/ABA team."

I'd leave it at that.

yeah already simplified the rules, we're starting from the 90s
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Post#10 » by Snakebites » Sat Aug 30, 2025 8:30 pm

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Post#11 » by Laimbeer » Sat Aug 30, 2025 9:41 pm

In but is a player's first club the first team he played a minute for? Or is it the team that drafted him?

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Post#12 » by Snakebites » Sat Aug 30, 2025 11:19 pm

Laimbeer wrote:In but is a player's first club the first team he played a minute for? Or is it the team that drafted him?

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I think it’s safe to say it’s the first team he played for. Kawhi and Kobe would not be in the spirit of the draft.
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Post#13 » by Mr Ringer » Sun Aug 31, 2025 12:47 am

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Post#15 » by durantbird » Sun Aug 31, 2025 9:36 am

Snakebites wrote:
Laimbeer wrote:In but is a player's first club the first team he played a minute for? Or is it the team that drafted him?

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I think it’s safe to say it’s the first team he played for. Kawhi and Kobe would not be in the spirit of the draft.

Yeah what Snake said. I'll clarify
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Post#16 » by Larry_Russell » Sun Aug 31, 2025 11:52 am

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Post#17 » by Stan » Sun Aug 31, 2025 3:31 pm

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Post#18 » by JimmyPlopper » Sun Aug 31, 2025 7:16 pm

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Post#19 » by Jon_3232 » Mon Sep 1, 2025 2:57 am

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