SAC-MIL (Monk for Kuzma)

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Re: SAC-MIL (Monk for Kuzma) 

Post#41 » by brackdan70 » Wed Sep 3, 2025 2:40 am

Bucks need to attach a protected first or two good seconds here. The value is not close.
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Re: SAC-MIL (Monk for Kuzma) 

Post#42 » by JRoy » Wed Sep 3, 2025 2:43 am

mlloyd10 wrote:What's the motivation for either team?

Monk is a chucker who isn't really good - Rather the Bucks just give those mins to Ryan Rollins/AJ Green


Monk can at least shoot.

Kuzma isn’t good at anything.
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Re: SAC-MIL (Monk for Kuzma) 

Post#43 » by mlloyd10 » Wed Sep 3, 2025 2:50 pm

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mlloyd10 wrote:What's the motivation for either team?

Monk is a chucker who isn't really good - Rather the Bucks just give those mins to Ryan Rollins/AJ Green


Are you familiar with Monk? He was 2nd last season in pick and roll Ppp. Giannis would feast with Monk in the pick and roll. Playing those other guys are fine for a rebuilding team, but a team trying to compete would be superior with Monk instead of Rollins or Green.


I would take AJ Green 10/10 over monk - Better shooter, better defender
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Re: SAC-MIL (Monk for Kuzma) 

Post#44 » by mlloyd10 » Wed Sep 3, 2025 2:53 pm

JRoy wrote:
mlloyd10 wrote:What's the motivation for either team?

Monk is a chucker who isn't really good - Rather the Bucks just give those mins to Ryan Rollins/AJ Green


Monk can at least shoot.

Kuzma isn’t good at anything.


Rather just give those minutes to Rollins - Small sample size, but Rollins was better in 2p%, 3p%, TS% Off Rating and DEF Rating

https://stathead.com/basketball/versus-finder.cgi?request=1&seasons_type=forall&year_min=2025&player_id1=rolliry01&player_id2=monkma01
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Re: SAC-MIL (Monk for Kuzma) 

Post#45 » by mlloyd10 » Wed Sep 3, 2025 3:00 pm

If the Bucks didnt have Trent Jr and KPJ - I would look at this trade, but there in no reason for the Bucks to do this.
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Re: SAC-MIL (Monk for Kuzma) 

Post#46 » by OGSactownballer » Wed Sep 3, 2025 3:42 pm

Better idea.

DDR for Kuzma and Unprotected Bucks ‘31 pick.
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Re: SAC-MIL (Monk for Kuzma) 

Post#47 » by sackings916 » Thu Sep 4, 2025 12:19 am

mlloyd10 wrote:
sackings916 wrote:
mlloyd10 wrote:What's the motivation for either team?

Monk is a chucker who isn't really good - Rather the Bucks just give those mins to Ryan Rollins/AJ Green


Are you familiar with Monk? He was 2nd last season in pick and roll Ppp. Giannis would feast with Monk in the pick and roll. Playing those other guys are fine for a rebuilding team, but a team trying to compete would be superior with Monk instead of Rollins or Green.


I would take AJ Green 10/10 over monk - Better shooter, better defender


It’s not close. Maybe Green takes a step this year though.
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Re: SAC-MIL (Monk for Kuzma) 

Post#48 » by JayMKE » Thu Sep 4, 2025 4:39 am

OGSactownballer wrote:Better idea.

DDR for Kuzma and Unprotected Bucks ‘31 pick.


lmao hell naw

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Re: SAC-MIL (Monk for Kuzma) 

Post#49 » by mlloyd10 » Thu Sep 4, 2025 12:26 pm

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Are you familiar with Monk? He was 2nd last season in pick and roll Ppp. Giannis would feast with Monk in the pick and roll. Playing those other guys are fine for a rebuilding team, but a team trying to compete would be superior with Monk instead of Rollins or Green.


I would take AJ Green 10/10 over monk - Better shooter, better defender


It’s not close. Maybe Green takes a step this year though.


Green - Better 3pt %, TS%, eFG%, ORtg / Defense is about the same i guess

Green floor is Luke Kennard and ceiling is Klay
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Re: SAC-MIL (Monk for Kuzma) 

Post#50 » by sackings916 » Thu Sep 4, 2025 1:35 pm

mlloyd10 wrote:
sackings916 wrote:
mlloyd10 wrote:
I would take AJ Green 10/10 over monk - Better shooter, better defender


It’s not close. Maybe Green takes a step this year though.


Green - Better 3pt %, TS%, eFG%, ORtg / Defense is about the same i guess

Green floor is Luke Kennard and ceiling is Klay


Those numbers only mean so much. Green is a low usage role player, and needs others to create for him. Monk is a playmaker and shot creator for himself and others. Green is mostly taking wide open spot up shots, so yeah his efficiency may look better on the surface but it’s not the same impact as Monk. Defenses have to key in on Monk or he could go off for 30+ pts or 10+ assists, which would take some of the pressure off Giannis.
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Re: SAC-MIL (Monk for Kuzma) 

Post#51 » by mlloyd10 » Thu Sep 4, 2025 1:37 pm

sackings916 wrote:
mlloyd10 wrote:
sackings916 wrote:
It’s not close. Maybe Green takes a step this year though.


Green - Better 3pt %, TS%, eFG%, ORtg / Defense is about the same i guess

Green floor is Luke Kennard and ceiling is Klay


Those numbers only mean so much. Green is a low usage role player, and needs others to create for him. Monk is a playmaker and shot creator for himself and others. Green is mostly taking wide open spot up shots, so yeah his efficiency may look better on the surface but it’s not the same impact as Monk. Defenses have to key in on Monk or he could go off for 30+ pts or 10+ assists, which would take some of the pressure off Giannis.


Nah - We good without him
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Re: SAC-MIL (Monk for Kuzma) 

Post#52 » by sackings916 » Thu Sep 4, 2025 1:46 pm

mlloyd10 wrote:
sackings916 wrote:
mlloyd10 wrote:
Green - Better 3pt %, TS%, eFG%, ORtg / Defense is about the same i guess

Green floor is Luke Kennard and ceiling is Klay


Those numbers only mean so much. Green is a low usage role player, and needs others to create for him. Monk is a playmaker and shot creator for himself and others. Green is mostly taking wide open spot up shots, so yeah his efficiency may look better on the surface but it’s not the same impact as Monk. Defenses have to key in on Monk or he could go off for 30+ pts or 10+ assists, which would take some of the pressure off Giannis.


Nah - We good without him


I wasn’t pushing for this trade at all
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Re: SAC-MIL (Monk for Kuzma) 

Post#53 » by daoneandonly » Thu Sep 4, 2025 2:23 pm

mlloyd10 wrote:
sackings916 wrote:
mlloyd10 wrote:What's the motivation for either team?

Monk is a chucker who isn't really good - Rather the Bucks just give those mins to Ryan Rollins/AJ Green


Are you familiar with Monk? He was 2nd last season in pick and roll Ppp. Giannis would feast with Monk in the pick and roll. Playing those other guys are fine for a rebuilding team, but a team trying to compete would be superior with Monk instead of Rollins or Green.


I would take AJ Green 10/10 over monk - Better shooter, better defender


What if it were Klay and Hardy from Dallas to Mil? Where Kuz still goes to Sac, but Monk goes to Dallas instead.
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