Around the NBA (Part Three)

[KGdaBom]

Now that Dallas traded Micah Parsons to the Green Bay Packers, I bet Dallas wins the NFL lottery or Packers are going to end up with the worst record Yes, this is the off season of the NBA off season but NFL is back.

NFL doesn't have a lottery.

I know but NFL will make an exception for Dallas. After all, it's America's team

Riggghhhhttt. Suuurreee.

[BlacJacMac]

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[KGdaBom]

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WOW!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Ballmer and Kawhi deserve lifetime bans from the NBA for that level of fraud.

[BlacJacMac]

As detailed by the Collective Bargaining Agreement, the commissioner is authorized to issue the following penalties for cap circumvention:

• A fine of up to $4.5 million for a first offense.
• A fine of up to $5.5 million for the second and any subsequent offenses.
• The forfeiture of one first-round draft pick.
• Contracts or transactions that violated league rules can be voided.

[Domejandro]

Absolutely no shot that there is a larger punishment than the fine and forfeiture of a pick. Ballmer's net worth is literally more than the value of the NBA and he is extraordinarily litigious. The NBA doesn't want to go to court over this situation.

[KGdaBom]

Absolutely no shot that there is a larger punishment than the fine and forfeiture of a pick. Ballmer's net worth is literally more than the value of the NBA and he is extraordinarily litigious. The NBA doesn't want to go to court over this situation.

The Wolves lost five FRPs (later reverted to three) for putting in writing that IF, IF, IF Joe Smith played very well and the Wolves were very successful, we would give him a big raise. To me this goes way beyond that.

[Klomp]

Absolutely no shot that there is a larger punishment than the fine and forfeiture of a pick. Ballmer's net worth is literally more than the value of the NBA and he is extraordinarily litigious. The NBA doesn't want to go to court over this situation.

The Wolves lost five FRPs (later reverted to three) for putting in writing that IF, IF, IF Joe Smith played very well and the Wolves were very successful, we would give him a big raise. To me this goes way beyond that.

Different CBA means different rules, I'm sure, unfortunately.

[BlacJacMac]

Absolutely no shot that there is a larger punishment than the fine and forfeiture of a pick. Ballmer's net worth is literally more than the value of the NBA and he is extraordinarily litigious. The NBA doesn't want to go to court over this situation.

The Wolves lost five FRPs (later reverted to three) for putting in writing that IF, IF, IF Joe Smith played very well and the Wolves were very successful, we would give him a big raise. To me this goes way beyond that.

All those "IF"s are your addition.

Smith turned down way more money to sign three tiny one year deals. There was no "IF". He was promised IN WRITING a big deal (up to 86M) once we acquired his Bird Rights.

[Klomp]

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PJ Washington or Naz Reid? Essentially, they're on similar contracts, but Naz has an extra fifth year of new money while PJ's four years were tacked on to the end of his current deal.

[KGdaBom]

Absolutely no shot that there is a larger punishment than the fine and forfeiture of a pick. Ballmer's net worth is literally more than the value of the NBA and he is extraordinarily litigious. The NBA doesn't want to go to court over this situation.

The Wolves lost five FRPs (later reverted to three) for putting in writing that IF, IF, IF Joe Smith played very well and the Wolves were very successful, we would give him a big raise. To me this goes way beyond that.

All those "IF"s are your addition.

Smith turned down way more money to sign three tiny one year deals. There was no "IF". He was promised IN WRITING a big deal (up to 86M) once we acquired his Bird Rights.

With all kinds of conditions. If he was an all star, if the Wolves win the championship stuff like that. There was no guarantee of the raise unless he played well and we were successful. It's what we would have done regardless of the secret contract.

[BlacJacMac]

The Wolves lost five FRPs (later reverted to three) for putting in writing that IF, IF, IF Joe Smith played very well and the Wolves were very successful, we would give him a big raise. To me this goes way beyond that.

All those "IF"s are your addition.

Smith turned down way more money to sign three tiny one year deals. There was no "IF". He was promised IN WRITING a big deal (up to 86M) once we acquired his Bird Rights.

With all kinds of conditions. If he was an all star, if the Wolves win the championship stuff like that. There was no guarantee of the raise unless he played well and we were successful. It's what we would have done regardless of the secret contract.

None of that is true.

He signed 3 contracts for way below market value because we offered to make it up to him when we got his Bird Rights.

We didn't get that level of punishment for nothing.

[KGdaBom]

All those "IF"s are your addition.

Smith turned down way more money to sign three tiny one year deals. There was no "IF". He was promised IN WRITING a big deal (up to 86M) once we acquired his Bird Rights.

With all kinds of conditions. If he was an all star, if the Wolves win the championship stuff like that. There was no guarantee of the raise unless he played well and we were successful. It's what we would have done regardless of the secret contract.

None of that is true.

He signed 3 contracts for way below market value because we offered to make it up to him when we got his Bird Rights.

We didn't get that level of punishment for nothing.

We got the punishment for the secret future contracts, but I remember there was wording on how much incentives he would get for Wolves winning a championship and Joe being an all star. Stuff like that. That's how I heard it reported on the news. I didn't actually read the contracts line for line, but they were incentive laden.

[BlacJacMac]

With all kinds of conditions. If he was an all star, if the Wolves win the championship stuff like that. There was no guarantee of the raise unless he played well and we were successful. It's what we would have done regardless of the secret contract.

None of that is true.

He signed 3 contracts for way below market value because we offered to make it up to him when we got his Bird Rights.

We didn't get that level of punishment for nothing.

We got the punishment for the secret future contracts, but I remember there was wording on how much incentives he would get for Wolves winning a championship and Joe being an all star. Stuff like that. That's how I heard it reported on the news. I didn't actually read the contracts line for line, but they were incentive laden.

And that would make it less egregious in your eyes?

[KGdaBom]

None of that is true.

He signed 3 contracts for way below market value because we offered to make it up to him when we got his Bird Rights.

We didn't get that level of punishment for nothing.

We got the punishment for the secret future contracts, but I remember there was wording on how much incentives he would get for Wolves winning a championship and Joe being an all star. Stuff like that. That's how I heard it reported on the news. I didn't actually read the contracts line for line, but they were incentive laden.

And that would make it less egregious in your eyes?

It was unbelievably stupid, but not all that egregious to my eyes. We said if you meet all these incentives we will pay you a lot of money. We would have done that without having secret contracts.

[BlacJacMac]

We got the punishment for the secret future contracts, but I remember there was wording on how much incentives he would get for Wolves winning a championship and Joe being an all star. Stuff like that. That's how I heard it reported on the news. I didn't actually read the contracts line for line, but they were incentive laden.

And that would make it less egregious in your eyes?

It was unbelievably stupid, but not all that egregious to my eyes. We said if you meet all these incentives we will pay you a lot of money. We would have done that without having secret contracts.

There is still a significant disconnect between your reality and what actually happened.

We were going to pay him A LOT of money regardless. It may have been even more if he met incentives. But it was a boatload of money no matter what.

Otherwise, he's not playing for relative peanuts for 3 years when other teams were offering him far more.

[KGdaBom]

And that would make it less egregious in your eyes?

It was unbelievably stupid, but not all that egregious to my eyes. We said if you meet all these incentives we will pay you a lot of money. We would have done that without having secret contracts.

There is still a significant disconnect between your reality and what actually happened.

We were going to pay him A LOT of money regardless. It may have been even more if he met incentives. But it was a boatload of money no matter what.

Otherwise, he's not playing for relative peanuts for 3 years when other teams were offering him far more.

Maybe, maybe not. I just remember it was very incentive laden.

[Worm Guts]

We got the punishment for the secret future contracts, but I remember there was wording on how much incentives he would get for Wolves winning a championship and Joe being an all star. Stuff like that. That's how I heard it reported on the news. I didn't actually read the contracts line for line, but they were incentive laden.

And that would make it less egregious in your eyes?

It was unbelievably stupid, but not all that egregious to my eyes. We said if you meet all these incentives we will pay you a lot of money. We would have done that without having secret contracts.

I don’t remember the incentives, I thought it was a max contract once he was eligible.
Either way I don’t consider it better or worse than the Kawhi situation. It’s exactly the same-cap circumvention.

[KGdaBom]

And that would make it less egregious in your eyes?

It was unbelievably stupid, but not all that egregious to my eyes. We said if you meet all these incentives we will pay you a lot of money. We would have done that without having secret contracts.

I don’t remember the incentives, I thought it was a max contract once he was eligible.
Either way I don’t consider it better or worse than the Kawhi situation. It’s exactly the same-cap circumvention.

Both were attempting salary cap circumvention, but not exactly the same way at all.

[Neeva]

**** the dumbass clippers and crooked Ballmer. They deserve all the bad karma they are getting and more! Stupid **** gifted Shai andtons of picks to OKC for this shady ****.

[BlacJacMac]

Oklahoma City Thunder rookie big man Thomas Sorber tore the ACL in his right knee and will miss the 2025-26 season, the team announced.

Sorber, the 15th pick in the draft out of Georgetown, was injured during a workout in Oklahoma City on Thursday.

This will be the second straight season that an Oklahoma City first-round pick missed the entire season because of an ACL tear. Guard Nikola Topic, the No. 12 pick in 2024, was recovering from surgery when the Thunder selected him in the lottery.

Sorber averaged 14.5 points, 8.5 rebounds, 2.4 assists, 2.0 blocks and 1.5 steals per game as a freshman at Georgetown last season.

https://www.espn.com/nba/story/_/id/46169076/thunder-rookie-thomas-sorber-miss-season-torn-acl