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Post#2281 » by whatisacenter » Sat Aug 30, 2025 1:13 am

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That's a tweak in the current CBA, that a player has to clear waivers by Aug 31. Before they just had to be waived by Aug 31.


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Re: Around the NBA V: Live and Let Die 

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Post#2283 » by AirP. » Wed Sep 3, 2025 5:26 pm

In the latest episode of his "Pablo Torre Finds Out" podcast, Torre cited a trove of internal documents from the tree-planting company Aspiration, which Ballmer partially funded with a $50 million investment through his personal LLC in Sept. 14 2021.

Later that month, on Sept. 27, 2021, the Clippers announced a $300 million partnership with the now-bankrupt Aspiration, including sponsorship in the team's new arena and on the team's jersey patch.

According to Torre, Leonard agreed to a four-year, $28 million endorsement deal in April 2022 through his LLC, KL2 Aspire. The endorsement deal came nine months after Leonard signed a four-year, $176.3 million contract to remain with the Clippers -- the maximum allowed at the time under the NBA's collective bargaining agreement.

A clause in one of the documents purportedly obtained by Torre states that the deal between Aspiration and KL2 Aspire would be voided if Leonard left the Clippers. According to Torre, Leonard also could "decline to proceed with any action desired" by Aspiration and continue to get paid.

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Post#2284 » by statsman » Wed Sep 3, 2025 5:31 pm

The endorsement deal came nine months after Leonard signed a four-year, $176.3 million contract to remain with the Clippers -- the maximum allowed at the time under the NBA's collective bargaining agreement.

So, he didn't take a pay cut to get this deal? I guess he could have opted out and re-signed for more in subsequent years. Is that what they are hinting at? Seems a stretch.
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Re: Around the NBA V: Live and Let Die 

Post#2285 » by Chris Porter's Hair » Wed Sep 3, 2025 6:32 pm

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The endorsement deal came nine months after Leonard signed a four-year, $176.3 million contract to remain with the Clippers -- the maximum allowed at the time under the NBA's collective bargaining agreement.

So, he didn't take a pay cut to get this deal? I guess he could have opted out and re-signed for more in subsequent years. Is that what they are hinting at? Seems a stretch.

I interpreted it more as they paid him more than the maximum allowable by hiding some of it in this hokey endorsement deal.
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Re: Around the NBA V: Live and Let Die 

Post#2286 » by statsman » Wed Sep 3, 2025 6:41 pm

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The endorsement deal came nine months after Leonard signed a four-year, $176.3 million contract to remain with the Clippers -- the maximum allowed at the time under the NBA's collective bargaining agreement.

So, he didn't take a pay cut to get this deal? I guess he could have opted out and re-signed for more in subsequent years. Is that what they are hinting at? Seems a stretch.

I interpreted it more as they paid him more than the maximum allowable by hiding some of it in this hokey endorsement deal.

Okay, I see that angle. Oof, I gotta sense this happens more than the league wants to find out or admit to.
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Post#2287 » by AirP. » Wed Sep 3, 2025 10:01 pm

With the amount of money that was being handed out by companies to the NBA, this was expected. I expect more to be shut down in the near future.
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Post#2288 » by AirP. » Thu Sep 4, 2025 5:57 pm

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Post#2289 » by BayAreaDub » Thu Sep 4, 2025 6:28 pm

AirP. wrote:With the amount of money that was being handed out by companies to the NBA, this was expected. I expect more to be shut down in the near future.
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It was back up shortly after this report. They have multiple domains. I don't think it'll ever be possible to shut it down.
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Post#2290 » by vvoland » Thu Sep 4, 2025 6:56 pm

BayAreaDub wrote:
AirP. wrote:With the amount of money that was being handed out by companies to the NBA, this was expected. I expect more to be shut down in the near future.
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It was back up shortly after this report. They have multiple domains. I don't think it'll ever be possible to shut it down.


This game of whackamole has been going on for 20 years. Best of luck to the nba in doing something the nfl can't.
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Post#2291 » by AirP. » Thu Sep 4, 2025 8:11 pm

vvoland wrote:
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AirP. wrote:With the amount of money that was being handed out by companies to the NBA, this was expected. I expect more to be shut down in the near future.
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It was back up shortly after this report. They have multiple domains. I don't think it'll ever be possible to shut it down.


This game of whackamole has been going on for 20 years. Best of luck to the nba in doing something the nfl can't.

There's a much larger amount of money on the line and from multiple companies who have a lot of resources, they'll continue to try to get rid of the sites.
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Post#2292 » by AirP. » Thu Sep 4, 2025 8:16 pm

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AirP. wrote:With the amount of money that was being handed out by companies to the NBA, this was expected. I expect more to be shut down in the near future.
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It was back up shortly after this report. They have multiple domains. I don't think it'll ever be possible to shut it down.

The one StreamEast url wasn't the only one taken down, a number of other ones were taken down also since last time I checked them (SteamEast was just the biggest one).

Yes, streameast has many different urls they use and a website that lets you see which ones are online or not.

Although I almost always pay for NBA League Pass, I use some streams online, especially since my local team home games are blacked out.

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Re: Around the NBA V: Live and Let Die 

Post#2293 » by vvoland » Thu Sep 4, 2025 8:35 pm

AirP. wrote:
vvoland wrote:
BayAreaDub wrote:
It was back up shortly after this report. They have multiple domains. I don't think it'll ever be possible to shut it down.


This game of whackamole has been going on for 20 years. Best of luck to the nba in doing something the nfl can't.

There's a much larger amount of money on the line and from multiple companies who have a lot of resources, they'll continue to try to get rid of the sites.


I don't believe the new CBA has come close to what these same companies pay the NFL and those streams have been going strong for 2 decades. Instead, they should focus on making their product better, most accessible, etc.
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Re: Around the NBA V: Live and Let Die 

Post#2294 » by AirP. » Thu Sep 4, 2025 9:23 pm

vvoland wrote:
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This game of whackamole has been going on for 20 years. Best of luck to the nba in doing something the nfl can't.

There's a much larger amount of money on the line and from multiple companies who have a lot of resources, they'll continue to try to get rid of the sites.


I don't believe the new CBA has come close to what these same companies pay the NFL and those streams have been going strong for 2 decades. Instead, they should focus on making their product better, most accessible, etc.

There's a lot of value for NBA League pass but most only value the live game which if you can get a free stream for basically nullifies that value.

League pass allows you to go back to watch games from that season, there are multiple telecasts you can watch with home and away of course but sometimes multiple different streams of home or away games. For instance, last year I could watch GS stream from the arena before the game or the stream that has the pregame show that Chris Mullin was a part of.

Now, if you may or may not have noticed, on NBA.com that you don't need NBA League Pass for, in the box scores the stats are hyperlinks sometime soon after the game that allow you to watch where those numbers come from, so if you click on Curry's 3pt attempts you get a list of all the videos of each attempt, now, if the NBA tied in that ability to just valid NBA League Pass people, that could be more value by removing value from NBA.com viewers. You can also go through the play-by-play text and click on each play to watch a video of that specific play although sometimes it's not correct (I guess they use AI to do this work, sometimes they're way off).

Some people are just good with saving 100-150 bucks a year by watching streams and I do agree with Charles Barkley that this new media deal that chopped up the season to many networks was anti-fan and all about a cash grab. I do wonder if it will end up hurting some of the NBA's growth with younger people.
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Re: Around the NBA V: Live and Let Die 

Post#2295 » by statsman » Fri Sep 5, 2025 6:25 pm

According to Bobby Marks, the Bulls have upped their offer for Josh Giddey from 4/80 to 4/88.

Skipping to the Giddey comments. I don't know how to post a YT link at a specific timestamp - forum software keeps deleting the timestamp. Sorry.

www dot youtube dot com/watch?v=TXttWS6z1EY&t=813s

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