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Post#2361 » by DOT » Thu Sep 4, 2025 7:07 pm

I think the problem with the whole "oh the Cowboys couldn't afford to pay Micah cause of the cap hit" is, the cap isn't real in the NFL. Cap hits don't work like that

Micah's cap hit is $10 million this year, $19 million next year, and $27 million in 2027 (according to spotrac). It might become a problem in 2028 when it explodes to $64 million, but you can like, restructure and stuff at that point, plus that's in 3 years, you never know how things will look in 3 years

For context, if Micah were still on the Cowboys, he would have the 5th highest cap hit this year. It's only saving $7 million this year to have Clark instead of him, not $40 million. And if they keep Clark through next season, he's owed $21.5 million, which is $2.5 million more than Micah's cap hit next season. It's all non-guaranteed of course, so he can be cut, but still

You'd rather have $19 million in cap to sign, let's be generous here, 2 rotational guys rather than Micah Parsons?

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Post#2362 » by Jaydubb » Thu Sep 4, 2025 7:16 pm

DOT wrote:I think the problem with the whole "oh the Cowboys couldn't afford to pay Micah cause of the cap hit" is, the cap isn't real in the NFL. Cap hits don't work like that

Micah's cap hit is $10 million this year, $19 million next year, and $27 million in 2027 (according to spotrac). It might become a problem in 2028 when it explodes to $64 million, but you can like, restructure and stuff at that point, plus that's in 3 years, you never know how things will look in 3 years

For context, if Micah were still on the Cowboys, he would have the 5th highest cap hit this year. It's only saving $7 million this year to have Clark instead of him, not $40 million. And if they keep Clark through next season, he's owed $21.5 million, which is $2.5 million more than Micah's cap hit next season. It's all non-guaranteed of course, so he can be cut, but still

You'd rather have $19 million in cap to sign, let's be generous here, 2 rotational guys rather than Micah Parsons?

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Post#2363 » by QB_Eagles » Thu Sep 4, 2025 8:14 pm

DOT wrote:I think the problem with the whole "oh the Cowboys couldn't afford to pay Micah cause of the cap hit" is, the cap isn't real in the NFL. Cap hits don't work like that

Micah's cap hit is $10 million this year, $19 million next year, and $27 million in 2027 (according to spotrac). It might become a problem in 2028 when it explodes to $64 million, but you can like, restructure and stuff at that point, plus that's in 3 years, you never know how things will look in 3 years

For context, if Micah were still on the Cowboys, he would have the 5th highest cap hit this year. It's only saving $7 million this year to have Clark instead of him, not $40 million. And if they keep Clark through next season, he's owed $21.5 million, which is $2.5 million more than Micah's cap hit next season. It's all non-guaranteed of course, so he can be cut, but still

You'd rather have $19 million in cap to sign, let's be generous here, 2 rotational guys rather than Micah Parsons?

I got some Kool-Aid in the back for y'all.

I tried telling the Cowboys fans that pages ago but they're already high on copium, even bjj.
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Post#2364 » by Mariner » Thu Sep 4, 2025 9:56 pm

DOT wrote:I think the problem with the whole "oh the Cowboys couldn't afford to pay Micah cause of the cap hit" is, the cap isn't real in the NFL. Cap hits don't work like that

Micah's cap hit is $10 million this year, $19 million next year, and $27 million in 2027 (according to spotrac). It might become a problem in 2028 when it explodes to $64 million, but you can like, restructure and stuff at that point, plus that's in 3 years, you never know how things will look in 3 years

For context, if Micah were still on the Cowboys, he would have the 5th highest cap hit this year. It's only saving $7 million this year to have Clark instead of him, not $40 million. And if they keep Clark through next season, he's owed $21.5 million, which is $2.5 million more than Micah's cap hit next season. It's all non-guaranteed of course, so he can be cut, but still

You'd rather have $19 million in cap to sign, let's be generous here, 2 rotational guys rather than Micah Parsons?

I got some Kool-Aid in the back for y'all.

There are so many things wrong with this post it’s difficult to know where to begin.
First of all. You ignored to mention the 2 first rounders.
Concentrating on clark and cap space is very disingenuous. The cap space is just the icing.
Also he wasn’t traded just because of the money. There were other issues. It became personal and he requested the trade.
The cap is real. Of course teams going for it can kick the can down the road but that wasn’t in the cowboys best interest. Most teams would not agree with your assessment as they did not engage in trade talks when they found out the contract demands and compensation.
Your view of the cap reminds me of someone with a credit card that says I can afford all these things. I just have to make the minimum payment.
It’s not that simple.
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Post#2365 » by DOT » Thu Sep 4, 2025 10:27 pm

Mariner wrote:
DOT wrote:I think the problem with the whole "oh the Cowboys couldn't afford to pay Micah cause of the cap hit" is, the cap isn't real in the NFL. Cap hits don't work like that

Micah's cap hit is $10 million this year, $19 million next year, and $27 million in 2027 (according to spotrac). It might become a problem in 2028 when it explodes to $64 million, but you can like, restructure and stuff at that point, plus that's in 3 years, you never know how things will look in 3 years

For context, if Micah were still on the Cowboys, he would have the 5th highest cap hit this year. It's only saving $7 million this year to have Clark instead of him, not $40 million. And if they keep Clark through next season, he's owed $21.5 million, which is $2.5 million more than Micah's cap hit next season. It's all non-guaranteed of course, so he can be cut, but still

You'd rather have $19 million in cap to sign, let's be generous here, 2 rotational guys rather than Micah Parsons?

I got some Kool-Aid in the back for y'all.

There are so many things wrong with this post it’s difficult to know where to begin.
First of all. You ignored to mention the 2 first rounders.
Concentrating on clark and cap space is very disingenuous. The cap space is just the icing.
Also he wasn’t traded just because of the money. There were other issues. It became personal and he requested the trade.
The cap is real. Of course teams going for it can kick the can down the road but that wasn’t in the cowboys best interest. Most teams would not agree with your assessment as they did not engage in trade talks when they found out the contract demands and compensation.
Your view of the cap reminds me of someone with a credit card that says I can afford all these things. I just have to make the minimum payment.
It’s not that simple.

I would mostly agree with this assessment if the Cowboys weren't trying to win and were just re-setting their window

The problem is, they are trying to win. Jerry thinks this will improve the team, he thinks this is the modern Herschel Walker trade

I thought it was a good idea for the Jags to trade Jalen Ramsey for 2 1st round picks back in 2019 because he had issues and it became personal. Those 2 picks became K'Lavon Chaisson and Travis Etienne, meanwhile Ramsey was integral to the Rams winning a Superbowl despite signing him to a record-breaking contract

The point is, you trade away good players who want to be paid like elite players, you don't trade away elite players rather than pay them.
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Post#2366 » by Jaydubb » Thu Sep 4, 2025 10:31 pm

2 hours till the 2025 regular season!!!!
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Re: 2025 NFL Off-Season 

Post#2367 » by Jaydubb » Thu Sep 4, 2025 10:39 pm

DOT wrote:
Mariner wrote:
DOT wrote:I think the problem with the whole "oh the Cowboys couldn't afford to pay Micah cause of the cap hit" is, the cap isn't real in the NFL. Cap hits don't work like that

Micah's cap hit is $10 million this year, $19 million next year, and $27 million in 2027 (according to spotrac). It might become a problem in 2028 when it explodes to $64 million, but you can like, restructure and stuff at that point, plus that's in 3 years, you never know how things will look in 3 years

For context, if Micah were still on the Cowboys, he would have the 5th highest cap hit this year. It's only saving $7 million this year to have Clark instead of him, not $40 million. And if they keep Clark through next season, he's owed $21.5 million, which is $2.5 million more than Micah's cap hit next season. It's all non-guaranteed of course, so he can be cut, but still

You'd rather have $19 million in cap to sign, let's be generous here, 2 rotational guys rather than Micah Parsons?

I got some Kool-Aid in the back for y'all.

There are so many things wrong with this post it’s difficult to know where to begin.
First of all. You ignored to mention the 2 first rounders.
Concentrating on clark and cap space is very disingenuous. The cap space is just the icing.
Also he wasn’t traded just because of the money. There were other issues. It became personal and he requested the trade.
The cap is real. Of course teams going for it can kick the can down the road but that wasn’t in the cowboys best interest. Most teams would not agree with your assessment as they did not engage in trade talks when they found out the contract demands and compensation.
Your view of the cap reminds me of someone with a credit card that says I can afford all these things. I just have to make the minimum payment.
It’s not that simple.

I would mostly agree with this assessment if the Cowboys weren't trying to win and were just re-setting their window

The problem is, they are trying to win. Jerry thinks this will improve the team, he thinks this is the modern Herschel Walker trade

I thought it was a good idea for the Jags to trade Jalen Ramsey for 2 1st round picks back in 2019 because he had issues and it became personal. Those 2 picks became K'Lavon Chaisson and Travis Etienne, meanwhile Ramsey was integral to the Rams winning a Superbowl despite signing him to a record-breaking contract

The point is, you trade away good players who want to be paid like elite players, you don't trade away elite players rather than pay them.

Yeah that’s what I’m saying too. You don’t trade away elite players if you want to win. If you REALLY want to win then you will find a way to make it work. Sure, the cowboys could get many different players in this trade if they keep trading those picks like howie roseman did when he got the Carson wentz trade, but that outcome is extremely unlikely. Usually when you trade away the best player in the trade, you are on the losing end of the trade both short term and long term.
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Post#2368 » by Jaydubb » Thu Sep 4, 2025 10:44 pm

Mariner wrote:
DOT wrote:I think the problem with the whole "oh the Cowboys couldn't afford to pay Micah cause of the cap hit" is, the cap isn't real in the NFL. Cap hits don't work like that

Micah's cap hit is $10 million this year, $19 million next year, and $27 million in 2027 (according to spotrac). It might become a problem in 2028 when it explodes to $64 million, but you can like, restructure and stuff at that point, plus that's in 3 years, you never know how things will look in 3 years

For context, if Micah were still on the Cowboys, he would have the 5th highest cap hit this year. It's only saving $7 million this year to have Clark instead of him, not $40 million. And if they keep Clark through next season, he's owed $21.5 million, which is $2.5 million more than Micah's cap hit next season. It's all non-guaranteed of course, so he can be cut, but still

You'd rather have $19 million in cap to sign, let's be generous here, 2 rotational guys rather than Micah Parsons?

I got some Kool-Aid in the back for y'all.

There are so many things wrong with this post it’s difficult to know where to begin.
First of all. You ignored to mention the 2 first rounders.
Concentrating on clark and cap space is very disingenuous. The cap space is just the icing.
Also he wasn’t traded just because of the money. There were other issues. It became personal and he requested the trade.
The cap is real. Of course teams going for it can kick the can down the road but that wasn’t in the cowboys best interest. Most teams would not agree with your assessment as they did not engage in trade talks when they found out the contract demands and compensation.
Your view of the cap reminds me of someone with a credit card that says I can afford all these things. I just have to make the minimum payment.
It’s not that simple.

Depends on if you know how to work the cap or not. Howie roseman has been “kicking the can down the road” for like 10+ years and he’s gone to the Super Bowl 3 times in the last 8 years. Yes there’s years where you need to reset the cap, but if done correctly those years don’t happen often and also they aren’t as bad as it seems.
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Post#2369 » by Mariner » Thu Sep 4, 2025 10:52 pm

DOT wrote:
Mariner wrote:
DOT wrote:I think the problem with the whole "oh the Cowboys couldn't afford to pay Micah cause of the cap hit" is, the cap isn't real in the NFL. Cap hits don't work like that

Micah's cap hit is $10 million this year, $19 million next year, and $27 million in 2027 (according to spotrac). It might become a problem in 2028 when it explodes to $64 million, but you can like, restructure and stuff at that point, plus that's in 3 years, you never know how things will look in 3 years

For context, if Micah were still on the Cowboys, he would have the 5th highest cap hit this year. It's only saving $7 million this year to have Clark instead of him, not $40 million. And if they keep Clark through next season, he's owed $21.5 million, which is $2.5 million more than Micah's cap hit next season. It's all non-guaranteed of course, so he can be cut, but still

You'd rather have $19 million in cap to sign, let's be generous here, 2 rotational guys rather than Micah Parsons?

I got some Kool-Aid in the back for y'all.

There are so many things wrong with this post it’s difficult to know where to begin.
First of all. You ignored to mention the 2 first rounders.
Concentrating on clark and cap space is very disingenuous. The cap space is just the icing.
Also he wasn’t traded just because of the money. There were other issues. It became personal and he requested the trade.
The cap is real. Of course teams going for it can kick the can down the road but that wasn’t in the cowboys best interest. Most teams would not agree with your assessment as they did not engage in trade talks when they found out the contract demands and compensation.
Your view of the cap reminds me of someone with a credit card that says I can afford all these things. I just have to make the minimum payment.
It’s not that simple.

I would mostly agree with this assessment if the Cowboys weren't trying to win and were just re-setting their window

The problem is, they are trying to win. Jerry thinks this will improve the team, he thinks this is the modern Herschel Walker trade

I thought it was a good idea for the Jags to trade Jalen Ramsey for 2 1st round picks back in 2019 because he had issues and it became personal. Those 2 picks became K'Lavon Chaisson and Travis Etienne, meanwhile Ramsey was integral to the Rams winning a Superbowl despite signing him to a record-breaking contract

The point is, you trade away good players who want to be paid like elite players, you don't trade away elite players rather than pay them.

They weren’t actively trying to trade him. They felt it was a last resort. Trading him was not an ideal situation. This trade definitely made the cowboys worse this year. Most teams were not willing to do what the packers did though.
Weird that a superstar like Parsons has a cap hit of 9 and 19 million but the cowboys are destined to only get replacement players with more money.
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Post#2370 » by Mariner » Thu Sep 4, 2025 10:56 pm

Jaydubb wrote:
Mariner wrote:
DOT wrote:I think the problem with the whole "oh the Cowboys couldn't afford to pay Micah cause of the cap hit" is, the cap isn't real in the NFL. Cap hits don't work like that

Micah's cap hit is $10 million this year, $19 million next year, and $27 million in 2027 (according to spotrac). It might become a problem in 2028 when it explodes to $64 million, but you can like, restructure and stuff at that point, plus that's in 3 years, you never know how things will look in 3 years

For context, if Micah were still on the Cowboys, he would have the 5th highest cap hit this year. It's only saving $7 million this year to have Clark instead of him, not $40 million. And if they keep Clark through next season, he's owed $21.5 million, which is $2.5 million more than Micah's cap hit next season. It's all non-guaranteed of course, so he can be cut, but still

You'd rather have $19 million in cap to sign, let's be generous here, 2 rotational guys rather than Micah Parsons?

I got some Kool-Aid in the back for y'all.

There are so many things wrong with this post it’s difficult to know where to begin.
First of all. You ignored to mention the 2 first rounders.
Concentrating on clark and cap space is very disingenuous. The cap space is just the icing.
Also he wasn’t traded just because of the money. There were other issues. It became personal and he requested the trade.
The cap is real. Of course teams going for it can kick the can down the road but that wasn’t in the cowboys best interest. Most teams would not agree with your assessment as they did not engage in trade talks when they found out the contract demands and compensation.
Your view of the cap reminds me of someone with a credit card that says I can afford all these things. I just have to make the minimum payment.
It’s not that simple.

Depends on if you know how to work the cap or not. Howie roseman has been “kicking the can down the road” for like 10+ years and he’s gone to the Super Bowl 3 times in the last 8 years. Yes there’s years where you need to reset the cap, but if done correctly those years don’t happen often and also they aren’t as bad as it seems.

If you’re doing everything else correctly kicking the can is a great thing to do. The cowboys are to far away in my opinion to do this. This trade might help get a future QB.
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Re: 2025 NFL Off-Season 

Post#2371 » by Jaydubb » Thu Sep 4, 2025 11:06 pm

Mariner wrote:
Jaydubb wrote:
Mariner wrote:There are so many things wrong with this post it’s difficult to know where to begin.
First of all. You ignored to mention the 2 first rounders.
Concentrating on clark and cap space is very disingenuous. The cap space is just the icing.
Also he wasn’t traded just because of the money. There were other issues. It became personal and he requested the trade.
The cap is real. Of course teams going for it can kick the can down the road but that wasn’t in the cowboys best interest. Most teams would not agree with your assessment as they did not engage in trade talks when they found out the contract demands and compensation.
Your view of the cap reminds me of someone with a credit card that says I can afford all these things. I just have to make the minimum payment.
It’s not that simple.

Depends on if you know how to work the cap or not. Howie roseman has been “kicking the can down the road” for like 10+ years and he’s gone to the Super Bowl 3 times in the last 8 years. Yes there’s years where you need to reset the cap, but if done correctly those years don’t happen often and also they aren’t as bad as it seems.

If you’re doing everything else correctly kicking the can is a great thing to do. The cowboys are to far away in my opinion to do this. This trade might help get a future QB.

But see, I agree with this, but if the goal is to rebuild then go all in. There’s some young great players on the cowboys roster still that can possibly bring back like 5+ first round draft picks. It’ll also ensure that they don’t get a mid to late teens pick in 2026 for their own selection too.

Then they get their QB in 2026 or 2027 which is also when they trade dak and if they want they can also go up and take the top pass rusher as well kinda like what Houston just did in 2023. They could be up and running again by 2028 or so if the rebuild is done correctly. But pretend to compete while trading away your best defensive player will just keep you in purgatory for years with no end in sight.
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Post#2372 » by Mariner » Thu Sep 4, 2025 11:13 pm

Jaydubb wrote:
Mariner wrote:
Jaydubb wrote:Depends on if you know how to work the cap or not. Howie roseman has been “kicking the can down the road” for like 10+ years and he’s gone to the Super Bowl 3 times in the last 8 years. Yes there’s years where you need to reset the cap, but if done correctly those years don’t happen often and also they aren’t as bad as it seems.

If you’re doing everything else correctly kicking the can is a great thing to do. The cowboys are to far away in my opinion to do this. This trade might help get a future QB.

But see, I agree with this, but if the goal is to rebuild then go all in. There’s some young great players on the cowboys roster still that can possibly bring back like 5+ first round draft picks. It’ll also ensure that they don’t get a mid to late teens pick in 2026 for their own selection too.

Then they get their QB in 2026 or 2027 which is also when they trade dak and if they want they can also go up and take the top pass rusher as well kinda like what Houston just did in 2023. They could be up and running again by 2028 or so if the rebuild is done correctly. But pretend to compete while trading away your best defensive player will just keep you in purgatory for years with no end in sight.

It’s not black or white.
Go for it
Or
Trade everyone that has value
The trade allows them to move up in the draft to perhaps get a QB.
Plus like I said earlier. The plan wasn’t to trade him. It was a last resort. If things get worse there might be more trades.
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Re: 2025 NFL Off-Season 

Post#2373 » by Mr B » Thu Sep 4, 2025 11:28 pm

DOT wrote:
Mariner wrote:
DOT wrote:I think the problem with the whole "oh the Cowboys couldn't afford to pay Micah cause of the cap hit" is, the cap isn't real in the NFL. Cap hits don't work like that

Micah's cap hit is $10 million this year, $19 million next year, and $27 million in 2027 (according to spotrac). It might become a problem in 2028 when it explodes to $64 million, but you can like, restructure and stuff at that point, plus that's in 3 years, you never know how things will look in 3 years

For context, if Micah were still on the Cowboys, he would have the 5th highest cap hit this year. It's only saving $7 million this year to have Clark instead of him, not $40 million. And if they keep Clark through next season, he's owed $21.5 million, which is $2.5 million more than Micah's cap hit next season. It's all non-guaranteed of course, so he can be cut, but still

You'd rather have $19 million in cap to sign, let's be generous here, 2 rotational guys rather than Micah Parsons?

I got some Kool-Aid in the back for y'all.

There are so many things wrong with this post it’s difficult to know where to begin.
First of all. You ignored to mention the 2 first rounders.
Concentrating on clark and cap space is very disingenuous. The cap space is just the icing.
Also he wasn’t traded just because of the money. There were other issues. It became personal and he requested the trade.
The cap is real. Of course teams going for it can kick the can down the road but that wasn’t in the cowboys best interest. Most teams would not agree with your assessment as they did not engage in trade talks when they found out the contract demands and compensation.
Your view of the cap reminds me of someone with a credit card that says I can afford all these things. I just have to make the minimum payment.
It’s not that simple.

I would mostly agree with this assessment if the Cowboys weren't trying to win and were just re-setting their window

The problem is, they are trying to win. Jerry thinks this will improve the team, he thinks this is the modern Herschel Walker trade

I thought it was a good idea for the Jags to trade Jalen Ramsey for 2 1st round picks back in 2019 because he had issues and it became personal. Those 2 picks became K'Lavon Chaisson and Travis Etienne, meanwhile Ramsey was integral to the Rams winning a Superbowl despite signing him to a record-breaking contract

The point is, you trade away good players who want to be paid like elite players, you don't trade away elite players rather than pay them.

Do you pay 1 dimensional defensive linemen who are bad at playing the run? He’s not doubt a top 5 pass rusher but the way he plays the game leaves your defense vulnerable against the run, especially if the other team has an elite RB. That’s not the kind of player you give QB money to. Not unless that player puts you over the top.

Micah doesn’t do that for Dallas. He’s busy trying to get his sacks numbers that he doesn’t play the run, even on running downs. Green Bay is jumping for joy right now but when the better teams are gouging them in the run game they are going to see Micah’s flaws.
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Post#2374 » by Jaydubb » Thu Sep 4, 2025 11:31 pm

Mr B wrote:
DOT wrote:
Mariner wrote:There are so many things wrong with this post it’s difficult to know where to begin.
First of all. You ignored to mention the 2 first rounders.
Concentrating on clark and cap space is very disingenuous. The cap space is just the icing.
Also he wasn’t traded just because of the money. There were other issues. It became personal and he requested the trade.
The cap is real. Of course teams going for it can kick the can down the road but that wasn’t in the cowboys best interest. Most teams would not agree with your assessment as they did not engage in trade talks when they found out the contract demands and compensation.
Your view of the cap reminds me of someone with a credit card that says I can afford all these things. I just have to make the minimum payment.
It’s not that simple.

I would mostly agree with this assessment if the Cowboys weren't trying to win and were just re-setting their window

The problem is, they are trying to win. Jerry thinks this will improve the team, he thinks this is the modern Herschel Walker trade

I thought it was a good idea for the Jags to trade Jalen Ramsey for 2 1st round picks back in 2019 because he had issues and it became personal. Those 2 picks became K'Lavon Chaisson and Travis Etienne, meanwhile Ramsey was integral to the Rams winning a Superbowl despite signing him to a record-breaking contract

The point is, you trade away good players who want to be paid like elite players, you don't trade away elite players rather than pay them.

Do you pay 1 dimensional defensive linemen who are bad at playing the run? He’s not doubt a top 5 pass rusher but the way he plays the game leaves your defense vulnerable against the run, especially if the other team has an elite RB. That’s not the kind of player you give QB money to. Not unless that player puts you over the top.

Micah doesn’t do that for Dallas. He’s busy trying to get his sacks numbers that he doesn’t play the run, even on running downs. Green Bay is jumping for joy right now but when the better teams are gouging them in the run game they are going to see Micah’s flaws.

But Dallas defense when Micah plays and when Micah doesnt play suggests otherwise.
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Post#2375 » by Jaydubb » Thu Sep 4, 2025 11:33 pm

Mariner wrote:
Jaydubb wrote:
Mariner wrote:If you’re doing everything else correctly kicking the can is a great thing to do. The cowboys are to far away in my opinion to do this. This trade might help get a future QB.

But see, I agree with this, but if the goal is to rebuild then go all in. There’s some young great players on the cowboys roster still that can possibly bring back like 5+ first round draft picks. It’ll also ensure that they don’t get a mid to late teens pick in 2026 for their own selection too.

Then they get their QB in 2026 or 2027 which is also when they trade dak and if they want they can also go up and take the top pass rusher as well kinda like what Houston just did in 2023. They could be up and running again by 2028 or so if the rebuild is done correctly. But pretend to compete while trading away your best defensive player will just keep you in purgatory for years with no end in sight.

It’s not black or white.
Go for it
Or
Trade everyone that has value
The trade allows them to move up in the draft to perhaps get a QB.
Plus like I said earlier. The plan wasn’t to trade him. It was a last resort. If things get worse there might be more trades.

I guess I just don’t see how they can get better from moving on from Micah. It wasn’t good enough with Micah, how are they gonna get better? I guess they could strike gold with those draft picks but it still kinda feels like 2025 is a wasted year.
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Post#2376 » by JujitsuFlip » Fri Sep 5, 2025 12:28 am

QB_Eagles wrote:The Eagles are using a fullback now. What do you all think about that?
Looks like he just blew his knee out on the opening kickoff...
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Re: 2025 NFL Off-Season 

Post#2377 » by Mr B » Fri Sep 5, 2025 12:28 am

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DOT wrote:I would mostly agree with this assessment if the Cowboys weren't trying to win and were just re-setting their window

The problem is, they are trying to win. Jerry thinks this will improve the team, he thinks this is the modern Herschel Walker trade

I thought it was a good idea for the Jags to trade Jalen Ramsey for 2 1st round picks back in 2019 because he had issues and it became personal. Those 2 picks became K'Lavon Chaisson and Travis Etienne, meanwhile Ramsey was integral to the Rams winning a Superbowl despite signing him to a record-breaking contract

The point is, you trade away good players who want to be paid like elite players, you don't trade away elite players rather than pay them.

Do you pay 1 dimensional defensive linemen who are bad at playing the run? He’s not doubt a top 5 pass rusher but the way he plays the game leaves your defense vulnerable against the run, especially if the other team has an elite RB. That’s not the kind of player you give QB money to. Not unless that player puts you over the top.

Micah doesn’t do that for Dallas. He’s busy trying to get his sacks numbers that he doesn’t play the run, even on running downs. Green Bay is jumping for joy right now but when the better teams are gouging them in the run game they are going to see Micah’s flaws.

But Dallas defense when Micah plays and when Micah doesnt play suggests otherwise.

They were bad with Micah and terrible without him. They’re still suspect on defense but should be better against the run than they were with Micah.
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Re: 2025 NFL Off-Season 

Post#2378 » by QB_Eagles » Fri Sep 5, 2025 5:42 am

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QB_Eagles wrote:The Eagles are using a fullback now. What do you all think about that?
Looks like he just blew his knee out on the opening kickoff...

Fullback era already over. :cry:
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Re: 2025 NFL Off-Season 

Post#2379 » by JujitsuFlip » Fri Sep 5, 2025 11:41 pm

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JujitsuFlip wrote:
QB_Eagles wrote:The Eagles are using a fullback now. What do you all think about that?
Looks like he just blew his knee out on the opening kickoff...

Fullback era already over. :cry:
Schefty just said a torn patella tendon, he's out for the season :(
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Re: 2025 NFL Off-Season 

Post#2380 » by bluejerseyjinx » Sat Sep 6, 2025 12:03 am

Now the Egals will have an excuse when they lose to the Chiefs next week. Especially if Carter get suspended. :violin:

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