2025 Offseason Thread Vol.6

[Vertical Limit]

All of this is over when the 2026 offseason is here. Herro will get fraud checked (he already got fraud checked by me this past post season, bending over to Ty Jerome), the Heat will move on, along with the majority of the current roster will be out, and possibly our front office, and we all will get along again as heat fans.

[MadD23]

Sometimes when I read the Herro takes on this board it comes off like people made a decision on who he is as a player 3 or 4 years ago and just ignore anything that's happened since.

I was very critical of him 3 years ago (thought we got better in the playoffs without him which was probably the case considering we reached the Finals). I thought he improved a bit 2 years ago, would have liked to see what we looked like without Jimmy going down immediately. And he definitely made a huge leap last year, but again Jimmy imploded and he was left having to do everything.

He wasn't forcing shots or chucking, the team was just that bad without him, seriously who was going to create, Haywood Highsmith? Duncan? I love Bam, but he's a complementary piece on offense, not an engine. Also Tyler's assists went up, the turnovers went down, and the whole offense in general looked much better whenever he was taking the reigns.

He's a flawed player, but there's a few posters who are just convinced he's a net negative and that's bull.

Some do it to prop their favorite player up. Others do it because they have no idea how a developmental career trajectory works. The more you ignore the takes the better your experience on this board will be honestly.

Not easy to ignore lol. They even pulled me out of the shadows. I try to avoid toxic environments in my life (the good posters keep me in here mostly just reading), but man sometimes you just can't resist the urge to respond to some of the nonsense. But you are right, might be best to just ignore the crap and just acknowledge wisdom, facts and common sense. Everything else is unnecessary negative energy and non productive narratives.

[contract]

So even Jimmy and D-Wade didn't fit this standard? OK then. Agree to disagree.

Old Wade? No.
Jimmy? No.

Wade was not old for the 2 seasons we had him after LeBron left. He got us very close to ECF again despite the fluctuating roster and eventually Bosh's medical challenges. And Jimmy being downplayed when he took far worse rosters than LeBron ever had to two Finals is puzzling.

All this just to denigrate Tyler is very weird. It should never be that serious.

That was not prime Wade. That's the reason Lebron left.

[MartyConlonJr]

I feel like the Heat do have an opportunity to be a lesser 2014-2015 season Golden State Warriors.
Tyler Herro = poor man's Steph Curry
Bam Adebayo = rich man's Draymond Green
Norman Powell = bout the same man's Klay Thompson
Andrew Wiggins = rich man's Harrison Barnes
Need to find our Bogut (Ware?) and our Igoudala (Jovic? JJJ? Davion?).

I always thought that as amazing a shooter Steph is, and as amazing a shooter as Klay was, it was the gravity of each that helped the other. They were both able to shoot 44% on high volume because of the other and I am hoping that same gravity can do this for Powell (who shot 41.8% last year), and Herro (what shot 40.7% for the first half of the season till he wore out).

Of course Curry was MVP, GSW won 67 games and the championship, and I am not expecting that, but I am hopeful Powell sorts out our offense by providing an extra option and it does help Herro take that next leap.

[Vertical Limit]

I feel like the Heat do have an opportunity to be a lesser 2014-2015 season Golden State Warriors.
Tyler Herro = poor man's Steph Curry
Bam Adebayo = rich man's Draymond Green
Norman Powell = bout the same man's Klay Thompson
Andrew Wiggins = rich man's Harrison Barnes
Need to find our Bogut (Ware?) and our Igoudala (Jovic? JJJ? Davion?).

I always thought that as amazing a shooter Steph is, and as amazing a shooter as Klay was, it was the gravity of each that helped the other. They were both able to shoot 44% on high volume because of the other and I am hoping that same gravity can do this for Powell (who shot 41.8% last year), and Herro (what shot 40.7% for the first half of the season till he wore out).

Of course Curry was MVP, GSW won 67 games and the championship, and I am not expecting that, but I am hopeful Powell sorts out our offense by providing an extra option and it does help Herro take that next leap.

No.. just no

[Vertical Limit]

We are closer to poor mans 20/21 Utah jazz than 2014/15 GSW

Herro = Clarkson, exact tier match
Davion Mitchell <<< Mike Conley
Rudy Gobert < Bam
Spida >>>>>>>>>> Norman Powell

And a bunch of joe ingles

I have the Heat winning under 40 games

[vagelis]

Wiggins will score more this season imo.

Warriors had Curry one of the best offensive players of all time.
They had Green who is ball dominant and touched the ball in every Warriors posession.
They had Thompson and then Kuminga who shot the ball every time they touched it.
And they have Kerr who said a lot of times that Warriors didnt want Wiggins to score because they had scorers (Curry, Thompson)

So, I think that Wiggins will have his chance with Miami to score more after being acclimated this season.

[carnageta]

We are a rich man's 2024-2025 Miami Heat.

2025-2026 Herro > 2024-2025 Herro
2025-2026 Bam > 2024-2025 Bam
2025-2026 Ware > 2024-2025 Ware
2025-2026 Jovic > 2024-2025 Jovic
2025-2026 JJJ > 2024-2025 JJJ
Normal Powell > Josh Richardson
Andrew Wiggins = Andrew Wiggins


I think we win 46 games and get the 5th seed.

[Crazy-Canuck]

I feel like the Heat do have an opportunity to be a lesser 2014-2015 season Golden State Warriors.
Tyler Herro = poor man's Steph Curry
Bam Adebayo = rich man's Draymond Green
Norman Powell = bout the same man's Klay Thompson
Andrew Wiggins = rich man's Harrison Barnes
Need to find our Bogut (Ware?) and our Igoudala (Jovic? JJJ? Davion?).

I always thought that as amazing a shooter Steph is, and as amazing a shooter as Klay was, it was the gravity of each that helped the other. They were both able to shoot 44% on high volume because of the other and I am hoping that same gravity can do this for Powell (who shot 41.8% last year), and Herro (what shot 40.7% for the first half of the season till he wore out).

Of course Curry was MVP, GSW won 67 games and the championship, and I am not expecting that, but I am hopeful Powell sorts out our offense by providing an extra option and it does help Herro take that next leap.

People comparing herro to steph sounds exactly like people who once tried to compare poole to steph.

Outside of being able to shoot and score, they aren't remotely alike.

Steph plays within the team scope, he isn't just about getting buckets. His screening, him directing the offense, making the extra pass, the unselfishness, etc..sets him apart from any other player. And he does this while playing fast and in constant motion.

Even defensively, it isn't close. He's an excellent team defender who understands positioning due to his iq and understanding of the system. On ball, he can get attacked, but he's gotten stronger and works just as hard on that end to recover. He rarely gives up.

That's my issue with herro. He gives up on plays defensively, won't chase, won't take a stand. What he will do is gamble. I dont care how much of a jump he makes offensively, the team will not do anything in the playoffs with him as a lead guard. Doncic, Brunson, trae, etc . all have that same label. Surprisingly, I think trae was figuring it out on that end last year. If I could pair any lead guard with bam, I might take trae over guys like fox or ja.

Jokic is another guy with a rep of a bad defender, but he isn't that bad anymore. He plays positional defense and within his limitations. He's smart, he reads and reacts. He doesn't carelessly gamble.

Both jokic and steph do take plays off on defense as should be expected, but they arent the turnstile people think they are on defense. Teams have always tried to switch and attack steph, it's not as successful as you'd think.

Its not bam, jovic, ware, etc..for this heat team as the x factor. Its herro. He's got more than enough offense to be a weapon. Does care enough about winning to care about defense? That's the 50 million dollar question.

[carnageta]

I feel like the Heat do have an opportunity to be a lesser 2014-2015 season Golden State Warriors.
Tyler Herro = poor man's Steph Curry
Bam Adebayo = rich man's Draymond Green
Norman Powell = bout the same man's Klay Thompson
Andrew Wiggins = rich man's Harrison Barnes
Need to find our Bogut (Ware?) and our Igoudala (Jovic? JJJ? Davion?).

I always thought that as amazing a shooter Steph is, and as amazing a shooter as Klay was, it was the gravity of each that helped the other. They were both able to shoot 44% on high volume because of the other and I am hoping that same gravity can do this for Powell (who shot 41.8% last year), and Herro (what shot 40.7% for the first half of the season till he wore out).

Of course Curry was MVP, GSW won 67 games and the championship, and I am not expecting that, but I am hopeful Powell sorts out our offense by providing an extra option and it does help Herro take that next leap.

People comparing herro to steph sounds exactly like people who once tried to compare poole to steph.

Outside of being able to shoot and score, they aren't remotely alike.

Steph plays within the team scope, he isn't just about getting buckets. His screening, him directing the offense, making the extra pass, the unselfishness, etc..sets him apart from any other player. And he does this while playing fast and in constant motion.

Even defensively, it isn't close. He's an excellent team defender who understands positioning due to his iq and understanding of the system. On ball, he can get attacked, but he's gotten stronger and works just as hard on that end to recover. He rarely gives up.

That's my issue with herro. He gives up on plays defensively, won't chase, won't take a stand. What he will do is gamble. I dont care how much of a jump he makes offensively, the team will not do anything in the playoffs with him as a lead guard. Doncic, Brunson, trae, etc . all have that same label. Surprisingly, I think trae was figuring it out on that end last year. If I could pair any lead guard with bam, I might take trae over guys like fox or ja.

Jokic is another guy with a rep of a bad defender, but he isn't that bad anymore. He plays positional defense and within his limitations. He's smart, he reads and reacts. He doesn't carelessly gamble.

Both jokic and steph do take plays off on defense as should be expected, but they arent the turnstile people think they are on defense. Teams have always tried to switch and attack steph, it's not as successful as you'd think.

Its not bam, jovic, ware, etc..for this heat team as the x factor. Its herro. He's got more than enough offense to be a weapon. Does care enough about winning to care about defense? That's the 50 million dollar question.

I think you're incorrect about Herro not trying defensively. I think he actually plays good team defence and understands positioning quite well. He also has had his fair share of defensive hustles players throughout the past season (i.e. via chase down blocks).

The difference between Tyler and Steph defensively is the whistle. Curry can get away with more physicality and worse positioning due to his superstar status. This gives the illusion that Curry is miles ahead of Herro defensively, when in fact he isn't. Herro gets the same treatment that Duncan Robinson got - getting called for ticky tacky bs half of the time that wouldn't happen if he was playing on the Lakers, Warriors, OKC, etc.


Offensively though, I agree. Curry is miles ahead of Tyler and we should not be comparing the two at all.

[Tim_Hardawayy]

People comparing herro to steph sounds exactly like people who once tried to compare poole to steph.

Outside of being able to shoot and score, they aren't remotely alike.

Herro is a lot closer to Steph than Poole is to Herro. But I don't imagine a Wiggins fan who only started following the Heat midway through the year and has reason to root against Herro (since other wings affect Wiggins' shot diet) is going to be charitable on that comparison. What is bizarre to me is how someone can actually be a Wiggins fan, like have that be their defining fandom, but I guess its the Canadian connection.

As for 3ammy, look I think everyone is a little bored of the "haha I'm just joking its just jokes man its just jokes!" stuff with Tyler but the second anyone says anything slightly critical of Bam, it turns super serial. And then just drip everything in sarcasm and hyperbole so you don't have to have honest discussion with anyone.

Look its not hard to see where the Tyler hate comes from (not talking about our resident Wiggins fan, that's another issue altogether). He's probably near his ceiling in potential, fans do not like to root for guys who are tapped out and aren't going to get much better, they prefer to imagine what players COULD be. I've seen it time and time again over the years, first big one I remember is Eddie House, hoo boy. Then there was the Dorell guys who were sure he was going to be the next Scottie Pippen if Riles would just let him off the leash. The big one was obviously Beas, and what I'll never forget is posters actually hating on UD, yes that UD, because they blamed him for Beas not getting more minutes. Nevermind that UD was probably doing everything right, he was tapped on potential, while people saw the world in Beasley, so he was in his way.

And to be honest, I think there's some of that going on with 3ammy and Bam/Tyler, even though Tyler's younger funny enough. But he takes shots from Bam, and he's probably not going to become much better than he is currently, meanwhile I know I've seen people including you claim Bam can be a KG if he puts it altogether. Even I can admit I can see the potential there.

But where I disagree is the idea of hating on players who are closer to their potential as preventing the potential guys from blossoming, I just don't think its a productive way to look at basketball. The great ones are going to get it regardless. Wade didn't need Eddie Jones and Caron Butler (or Shaq for that matter) to get out of his way to make his mark, he just did it.

And Tyler isn't stopping Bam (or Wiggins LMAO) from being the best version of themselves. Not to mention I personally think Bam has really good chemistry with Tyler, probably better than any other wing on the roster, and I'd bet his numbers go up when they share the floor together.

[vagelis]

People comparing herro to steph sounds exactly like people who once tried to compare poole to steph.

Outside of being able to shoot and score, they aren't remotely alike.

Herro is a lot closer to Steph than Poole is to Herro. But I don't imagine a Wiggins fan who only started following the Heat midway through the year and has reason to root against Herro (since other wings affect Wiggins' shot diet) is going to be charitable on that comparison. What is bizarre to me is how someone can actually be a Wiggins fan, like have that be their defining fandom, but I guess its the Canadian connection.

As for 3ammy, look I think everyone is a little bored of the "haha I'm just joking its just jokes man its just jokes!" stuff with Tyler but the second anyone says anything slightly critical of Bam, it turns super serial. And then just drip everything in sarcasm and hyperbole so you don't have to have honest discussion with anyone.

Look its not hard to see where the Tyler hate comes from (not talking about our resident Wiggins fan, that's another issue altogether). He's probably near his ceiling in potential, fans do not like to root for guys who are tapped out and aren't going to get much better, they prefer to imagine what players COULD be. I've seen it time and time again over the years, first big one I remember is Eddie House, hoo boy. Then there was the Dorell guys who were sure he was going to be the next Scottie Pippen if Riles would just let him off the leash. The big one was obviously Beas, and what I'll never forget is posters actually hating on UD, yes that UD, because they blamed him for Beas not getting more minutes. Nevermind that UD was probably doing everything right, he was tapped on potential, while people saw the world in Beasley, so he was in his way.

And to be honest, I think there's some of that going on with 3ammy and Bam/Tyler, even though Tyler's younger funny enough. But he takes shots from Bam, and he's probably not going to become much better than he is currently, meanwhile I know I've seen people including you claim Bam can be a KG if he puts it altogether. Even I can admit I can see the potential there.

But where I disagree is the idea of hating on players who are closer to their potential as preventing the potential guys from blossoming, I just don't think its a productive way to look at basketball. The great ones are going to get it regardless. Wade didn't need Eddie Jones and Caron Butler (or Shaq for that matter) to get out of his way to make his mark, he just did it.

And Tyler isn't stopping Bam (or Wiggins LMAO) from being the best version of themselves. Not to mention I personally think Bam has really good chemistry with Tyler, probably better than any other wing on the roster, and I'd bet his numbers go up when they share the floor together.

Please have a look at this video from his 2022 playoff scoring highlights.
I think Wiggins peak was not just good but impressive. He was better than both Tatum and Brown in these playoffs.

He didn't reached again this peak because of so many reasons but he is capable and why not to perform again this year in this level?
30 yo is the upper peak of athletic prime.

Spoelstra gave him a bigger role from the first day.
After the offseason he has a real chance to get acclimated and rise his performance.

Personally, I don't dislike Herro. He is talented but his main problem is his defense Crazy-Canuck is right about this.
Can he improve his defense, he will be a weapon

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[SA37]

Anyone wonder if the Big 3 actually took small paycuts for Haslem?

I believe they did because at the end of the day, what they cut was so minimal just to fit him and Mike Miller into cap space. I definitely think they got the best deal available in the city when it came to luxury cars and real estate. Riley has a lot of pull in that market in Miami.

They absolutely did and this has been publicly stated and was reported at the time of Haslem re-signing.

A week ago, Haslem expected he would sign elsewhere, but then the combination of a $58 million salary cap ($2 million more than expected) and the decisions by Wade, LeBron James and Chris Bosh to take less money made it possible for the Miami High grad to stay where he wanted.

https://www.espn.com/nba/news/story?id=5374210

“But the fact that Bron, CB, and D-Wade all collabed to take less money to make that $20 [million] available for me, it said enough, because they didn’t have to do that,” Haslem explained.

“Dwyane understood. Bron and CB don’t know me from a can of paint. They ain’t ever played with me, they don’t know nothing about me,” he continued. “But the fact that they was able to say, ‘Okay, cool. We need him. We need him to win.’ That let me know I got to get them boys they money worth.”

https://finance.yahoo.com/news/udonis-haslem-says-lebron-james-185406736.html?

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[SA37]

I feel like the Heat do have an opportunity to be a lesser 2014-2015 season Golden State Warriors.
Tyler Herro = poor man's Steph Curry
Bam Adebayo = rich man's Draymond Green
Norman Powell = bout the same man's Klay Thompson
Andrew Wiggins = rich man's Harrison Barnes
Need to find our Bogut (Ware?) and our Igoudala (Jovic? JJJ? Davion?).

I always thought that as amazing a shooter Steph is, and as amazing a shooter as Klay was, it was the gravity of each that helped the other. They were both able to shoot 44% on high volume because of the other and I am hoping that same gravity can do this for Powell (who shot 41.8% last year), and Herro (what shot 40.7% for the first half of the season till he wore out).

Of course Curry was MVP, GSW won 67 games and the championship, and I am not expecting that, but I am hopeful Powell sorts out our offense by providing an extra option and it does help Herro take that next leap.

The off-the-ball movement of Curry and Thompson was unreal. When you have guys who can get you 25< without needing to dominate the ball, it makes them 3x as hard to guard.

I keep saying Miami has to get Herro off of the ball because he's just not good enough of a playmaker. He's ok as a fill-in at times, but Miami would be better off with another person handling the ball. We may see Davion Mitchell get more minutes because he gets the ball out of Herro's hands. Not sure Davion is an amazing facilitator, but Miami's offense may improve if he is the primary ball-handler (pass 1st) in combination with Bam being the secondary facilitator.

[Hallstar]

I feel like the Heat do have an opportunity to be a lesser 2014-2015 season Golden State Warriors.
Tyler Herro = poor man's Steph Curry
Bam Adebayo = rich man's Draymond Green
Norman Powell = bout the same man's Klay Thompson
Andrew Wiggins = rich man's Harrison Barnes
Need to find our Bogut (Ware?) and our Igoudala (Jovic? JJJ? Davion?).

I always thought that as amazing a shooter Steph is, and as amazing a shooter as Klay was, it was the gravity of each that helped the other. They were both able to shoot 44% on high volume because of the other and I am hoping that same gravity can do this for Powell (who shot 41.8% last year), and Herro (what shot 40.7% for the first half of the season till he wore out).

Of course Curry was MVP, GSW won 67 games and the championship, and I am not expecting that, but I am hopeful Powell sorts out our offense by providing an extra option and it does help Herro take that next leap.

The off-the-ball movement of Curry and Thompson was unreal. When you have guys who can get you 25< without needing to dominate the ball, it makes them 3x as hard to guard.

I keep saying Miami has to get Herro off of the ball because he's just not good enough of a playmaker. He's ok as a fill-in at times, but Miami would be better off with another person handling the ball. We may see Davion Mitchell get more minutes because he gets the ball out of Herro's hands. Not sure Davion is an amazing facilitator, but Miami's offense may improve if he is the primary ball-handler (pass 1st) in combination with Bam being the secondary facilitator.

Benefitting from another ball handler doesn't mean not good enough as a playmaker. Some people on here love Trae and we keep whopping him because there aren't other playmakers on the Hawks.

[SA37]

Spoiler:

I feel like the Heat do have an opportunity to be a lesser 2014-2015 season Golden State Warriors.
Tyler Herro = poor man's Steph Curry
Bam Adebayo = rich man's Draymond Green
Norman Powell = bout the same man's Klay Thompson
Andrew Wiggins = rich man's Harrison Barnes
Need to find our Bogut (Ware?) and our Igoudala (Jovic? JJJ? Davion?).

I always thought that as amazing a shooter Steph is, and as amazing a shooter as Klay was, it was the gravity of each that helped the other. They were both able to shoot 44% on high volume because of the other and I am hoping that same gravity can do this for Powell (who shot 41.8% last year), and Herro (what shot 40.7% for the first half of the season till he wore out).

Of course Curry was MVP, GSW won 67 games and the championship, and I am not expecting that, but I am hopeful Powell sorts out our offense by providing an extra option and it does help Herro take that next leap.

The off-the-ball movement of Curry and Thompson was unreal. When you have guys who can get you 25< without needing to dominate the ball, it makes them 3x as hard to guard.

I keep saying Miami has to get Herro off of the ball because he's just not good enough of a playmaker. He's ok as a fill-in at times, but Miami would be better off with another person handling the ball. We may see Davion Mitchell get more minutes because he gets the ball out of Herro's hands. Not sure Davion is an amazing facilitator, but Miami's offense may improve if he is the primary ball-handler (pass 1st) in combination with Bam being the secondary facilitator.

Benefitting from another ball handler doesn't mean not good enough as a playmaker. Some people on here love Trae and we keep whopping him because there aren't other playmakers on the Hawks.

Not sure what all those numbers are supposed to mean, but I don't think Miami can go very far with Herro as the primary ball-handler. That isn't to say he is garbage.

He's not good at getting to the basket and drawing fouls, although he showed improvement last year by getting to the line 4.2x/game (for reference, Wiggins got to the line 4.3x/game). But that is far, far below a guy like Trae Young (7.4 FTA/game) (only using him since you mentioned him). You can also look at assists. Herro had a career-high 5.5 apg last year, but this is not elite level stuff. In both cases, Herro is in the top-30, but he's just not elite here.

I don't think Herro has a much higher ceiling in this area. He's good, but not great. His bball IQ is fine, but not elite. His handles are ok, but he's not great off the dribble. Herro IS an elite shooter and is elite in catch-and-shoot situations, especially from the right elbow extended. And in situations where the defense isn't prepared for him coming off a pick and roll, the element of "surprise" is on his side and I think that would give him that half step he needs to get better separation and better looks than he tends to off the dribble.

Like I said, I think he can fill in at times in the primary ball-handler role, but I don't think it's optimal for him or the team because he's just not a great 1-on-1 player.

[3ammy3uck3ts]

People comparing herro to steph sounds exactly like people who once tried to compare poole to steph.

Outside of being able to shoot and score, they aren't remotely alike.

Herro is a lot closer to Steph than Poole is to Herro. But I don't imagine a Wiggins fan who only started following the Heat midway through the year and has reason to root against Herro (since other wings affect Wiggins' shot diet) is going to be charitable on that comparison. What is bizarre to me is how someone can actually be a Wiggins fan, like have that be their defining fandom, but I guess its the Canadian connection.

As for 3ammy, look I think everyone is a little bored of the "haha I'm just joking its just jokes man its just jokes!" stuff with Tyler but the second anyone says anything slightly critical of Bam, it turns super serial. And then just drip everything in sarcasm and hyperbole so you don't have to have honest discussion with anyone.

Look its not hard to see where the Tyler hate comes from (not talking about our resident Wiggins fan, that's another issue altogether). He's probably near his ceiling in potential, fans do not like to root for guys who are tapped out and aren't going to get much better, they prefer to imagine what players COULD be. I've seen it time and time again over the years, first big one I remember is Eddie House, hoo boy. Then there was the Dorell guys who were sure he was going to be the next Scottie Pippen if Riles would just let him off the leash. The big one was obviously Beas, and what I'll never forget is posters actually hating on UD, yes that UD, because they blamed him for Beas not getting more minutes. Nevermind that UD was probably doing everything right, he was tapped on potential, while people saw the world in Beasley, so he was in his way.

And to be honest, I think there's some of that going on with 3ammy and Bam/Tyler, even though Tyler's younger funny enough. But he takes shots from Bam, and he's probably not going to become much better than he is currently, meanwhile I know I've seen people including you claim Bam can be a KG if he puts it altogether. Even I can admit I can see the potential there.

But where I disagree is the idea of hating on players who are closer to their potential as preventing the potential guys from blossoming, I just don't think its a productive way to look at basketball. The great ones are going to get it regardless. Wade didn't need Eddie Jones and Caron Butler (or Shaq for that matter) to get out of his way to make his mark, he just did it.

And Tyler isn't stopping Bam (or Wiggins LMAO) from being the best version of themselves. Not to mention I personally think Bam has really good chemistry with Tyler, probably better than any other wing on the roster, and I'd bet his numbers go up when they share the floor together.

Herro absolutely is not closer to Steph and Poole is to Herro, what version of Steph are we talking about?

I’m not being sarcastic about Herro though lol you’ve got me misunderstood. “He’s not a Heat guy”, he doesn’t play a lick of defense and is a very easy target for teams in the playoffs and he’s a ball dominant player who doesn’t contribute in the playoffs who wants a $50M a year extension. I seriously don’t know what this dude has done to warrant the overwhelming praise he gets on here, he has done nothing relevant in a Heat jersey in terms of Heat success.

I do not knock Tyler to uplift Bam, that just doesn’t make sense to me. His numbers go up without Herro but yes they do have good chemistry when Tyler is open to making the right play.

The potential thing has no part in it for me with either player.

I used to have honest discussions and try to debate topics back with facts, plays, stats, and CONTEXT (all caps because everyone loves context when it fits their argument, some of the same people hyping Herro up are talking about context while completely ignoring it with every other player). But that was always met with lazy answers and troll remarks so I gave that kind of discussion up for the most part and decided to fit in with the majority.

[3ammy3uck3ts]

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Imagine if he had more than 1 knee.

[Jstock12]

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[Vertical Limit]

Theres people on this planet that dare put Herro in the same breath as a first ballot hall of famer that will go down as top 5 in his position all time, likely a top 20 all time player in basketball history..

Good lord, you all are desperate and reaching way down the barrel hoping this chicken **** turns into christmas gallina dinner.

Herro is in the Giddey, Sexton, Lavine, Poole, Clarkson tier, and some of yall are actually trying to compare him to Curry, 4 time champion, finals mvp, 2 time league MVP, 11 time all nba, 2 time scoring champion.

Bunch of homers.. but dont worry, 2026 offseason coming soon to cure yall when we blow it up