Markannen to Pistons

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Markannen to Pistons 

Post#1 » by Bentley1225 » Fri Sep 5, 2025 6:54 pm

With the Pistons holding 2 expiring deals in Harris + Ivey, all their 1st round picks and the East wide open, it seems like Pistons are in a prime posiiton to land a major piece to move the needle and position themselves as a top 4 seed in EC.

Based on that ill offer this idea. I apologize if similar idea has been posted recently.

To Detroit
-Lauri Markannen (4 years, $196 million)

To Utah (waive Mykhaliuk & Love)
-Tobias Harris (1 year, 26.6 million)
-Jaden Ivey (1 year, $10.1 million plus Q.O.)
-Bobi Klintman (2 years, $4.2 million plus T.O.)
-2026 1st round pick
-2028 1st round pick
-2030 1st round pick


Why?
-The Pistons make a move given their emergence last season and ability to move into Top 4 positioning in conference. They can repalce Ivey with re-adding Beasley and add frontcourt depth with minimum contract players for depth if desired.

Cunningham/Sasser
LaVert/Beasley?/Green/Lanier
Thompson/Holland/Robinson
Markannen/Reed/FA?
Duren/Stewart/FA?

-Utah cashes out on Markannen as they look to continue to stockpile 1sts and create more 2026 off-season flexibility

Clayton Jr./Collier/Ivey
Bailey/Williams/George
Niang/Sensabaugh/Klintman
Harris/Anderson/Hendricks
Kessler/Nurkic/Filipowski
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Re: Markannen to Pistons 

Post#2 » by Mavrelous » Fri Sep 5, 2025 7:00 pm

Too much for Markannen, he is a positive value still on that contract, but not haul type of value.
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Re: Markannen to Pistons 

Post#3 » by Saul Goodman » Fri Sep 5, 2025 7:05 pm

I think pistons hang up on Ivey and Utah is fine with that. 3 1sts for markkanen if he returns to 2024 form is fair enough
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Re: Markannen to Pistons 

Post#4 » by tcheco » Fri Sep 5, 2025 7:10 pm

Detroit is probably not willing to pay 3 picks and Ivey for Lauri, its a big risk and limits their ceilling considering they are adding an expensive piece along with Cade combining to 90M into 2 players alone, altough the timeline makes sense, but they must be pretty sure Holland and Thompson will keep improving significantly.
2 picks seems closer honestly
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Re: Markannen to Pistons 

Post#5 » by babyjax13 » Fri Sep 5, 2025 7:14 pm

I agree it is too much. I also wouldn't really want Ivey. I like him, but he is going to need to be paid and I don't love our resulting guard rotation with him. I also agree w/Saul, if Lauri returns to form, 3 1sts is probably a competitive offer.
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Re: Markannen to Pistons 

Post#6 » by Billl » Fri Sep 5, 2025 7:23 pm

Danny is that you? Massive overpay.

Anyway, utah doesn't need ivey and 3 picks+a prospect is way out of line.
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Re: Markannen to Pistons 

Post#7 » by longfellow44 » Fri Sep 5, 2025 7:57 pm

Take out ivey and make the 2030 pick a swap instead of an outright pick.

Redirect harris to the kings for derozan and 2 2nd round picks.
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Re: Markannen to Pistons 

Post#8 » by babyjax13 » Fri Sep 5, 2025 8:04 pm

longfellow44 wrote:Take out ivey and make the 2030 pick a swap instead of an outright pick.

Redirect harris to the kings for derozan and 2 2nd round picks.

I think DeRozan and the SAS 1st would be closer and Sacramento shouldn't do that.
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Re: Markannen to Pistons 

Post#9 » by Snakebites » Fri Sep 5, 2025 8:19 pm

This is an opening offer from the Jazz. It's not anywhere near what the ultimate valuation would be.

And that's regardless of the fit of Ivey. Take him out and 3 picks is still too much.
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Re: Markannen to Pistons 

Post#10 » by One_and_Done » Fri Sep 5, 2025 9:21 pm

Lauri just doesn't have that kind of value.
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Re: Markannen to Pistons 

Post#11 » by youngthegiant » Fri Sep 5, 2025 11:28 pm

Lauri has like a top 3 worst contract in the league. Utah would be lucky to just dump him.
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Re: Markannen to Pistons 

Post#12 » by the_process » Sat Sep 6, 2025 1:23 am

tcheco wrote:Detroit is probably not willing to pay 3 picks and Ivey for Lauri, its a big risk and limits their ceilling considering they are adding an expensive piece along with Cade combining to 90M into 2 players alone, altough the timeline makes sense, but they must be pretty sure Holland and Thompson will keep improving significantly.
2 picks seems closer honestly


Ivey, Harris, and 2 1sts (one lightly protected) for Lauri seems right to me.
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Re: Markannen to Pistons 

Post#13 » by JJ_PR » Sat Sep 6, 2025 1:45 am

Ivey and 2 firsts as the headliner seems like a very competitive offer, 3 firsts feels like an overpay.
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Re: Markannen to Pistons 

Post#14 » by Village Idiot » Sat Sep 6, 2025 7:17 am

How about adding the Celtics to the deal?

Boston trades: Simons and a 1st for Stewart - gets them under the tax and helps positionally

Detroit trades: Harris, Stew and a 1st for Markannen

Utah trades: Markannen for Harris, Simons and two 1sts
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Re: Markannen to Pistons 

Post#15 » by babyjax13 » Sat Sep 6, 2025 7:27 am

Village Idiot wrote:How about adding the Celtics to the deal?

Boston trades: Simons and a 1st for Stewart - gets them under the tax and helps positionally

Detroit trades: Harris, Stew and a 1st for Markannen

Utah trades: Markannen for Harris, Simons and two 1sts

I would rather keep Lauri.
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Re: Markannen to Pistons 

Post#16 » by tester551 » Sat Sep 6, 2025 7:44 am

Village Idiot wrote:How about adding the Celtics to the deal?

Boston trades: Simons and a 1st for Stewart - gets them under the tax and helps positionally

Detroit trades: Harris, Stew and a 1st for Markannen

Utah trades: Markannen for Harris, Simons and two 1sts


I actually like this for all teams better than any other proposal I have seen in this thread.
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Re: Markannen to Pistons 

Post#17 » by Mr Peanut » Sat Sep 6, 2025 10:17 am

I'd like to see how the Pistons go with the current roster until closer to the trade deadline. If we aren't keeping pace with the top 4 in the East, and Markannen is also having a good season, then we should consider a move for him.

The OP offer seems like a bit of an overpay. I'd replace Ivey with Sasser and do two firsts (one being lightly protected). Factoring in Markannen's contract and injury history.
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Re: Markannen to Pistons 

Post#18 » by SA37 » Sat Sep 6, 2025 11:54 am

JJ_PR wrote:Ivey and 2 firsts as the headliner seems like a very competitive offer, 3 firsts feels like an overpay.


I think this would be better. Maybe the 2026 pick is unprotected and the 2028 pick is top-8 protected. If the 2028 pick does not convey, it is top-4 protected in 2029 and unprotected in 2030. Something like that.
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Re: Markannen to Pistons 

Post#19 » by Canadafan » Sat Sep 6, 2025 3:00 pm

Like the idea of Markkanen coming to Detroit. Especially if we re-sign Beasley.
Don't like including Ivey.
Tobias and filler plus picks is all id do. Thats a massive contract.
Duren Stew
Markkanen Holland
Ausar Robinson
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Cade Levert

To match his salary$44mil it would probably have to be Duncan or Levert who has to go with Tobias $25mil. Sasser makes too little and Reed only 6mil
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Re: Markannen to Pistons 

Post#20 » by oldncreaky » Sat Sep 6, 2025 5:48 pm

Canadafan wrote:Like the idea of Markkanen coming to Detroit. Especially if we re-sign Beasley.
Don't like including Ivey.
Tobias and filler plus picks is all id do. Thats a massive contract.
Duren Stew
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Cade Levert

To match his salary$44mil it would probably have to be Duncan or Levert who has to go with Tobias $25mil. Sasser makes too little and Reed only 6mil


Agree.

I see Markkhannen as a third/fourth starter, but paid full value as a second star. I'd want a significant discount on trade value to take on that contract.
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