Pablo Torre interviews Mark Cuban

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Re: Pablo Torre interviews Mark Cuban 

Post#81 » by SNPA » Sat Sep 6, 2025 5:59 pm

og15 wrote:
SNPA wrote:Best part was Cuban not remembering the DeAndre Jordan situation where Ballmer did the same thing to him. Oops.

It's actually different things there. The Clippers/Mavs stuff with DeAndre Jordan had nothing to do with the unauthorized luxury vehicle company sponsorship that they were fined for, I didn't even remember that that had happened myself. The Clippers / Mavs aspect of the DeAndre Jordan situation was the whole locked in the house stuff, so Cuban not knowing about a fine the Clippers got 1-2 months after free agency is not much of a deal. I don't even think many people knew about that. You might be confusing the Mavs/Clippers drama with the later fine.

Cuban’s out there saying Ballmer isn’t dumb enough to do that, and Pablo is like uhhh…you sure. It completely undercuts Cuban’s point, and that was quality entertainment.
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Re: Pablo Torre interviews Mark Cuban 

Post#82 » by Larry Ellison » Sat Sep 6, 2025 6:04 pm

og15 wrote:
SNPA wrote:Best part was Cuban not remembering the DeAndre Jordan situation where Ballmer did the same thing to him. Oops.

It's actually different things there. The Clippers/Mavs stuff with DeAndre Jordan had nothing to do with the unauthorized luxury vehicle company sponsorship that they were fined for, I didn't even remember that that had happened myself. The Clippers / Mavs aspect of the DeAndre Jordan situation was the whole verbal agreement, changing mind and locked in the house stuff, so Cuban not knowing about a fine the Clippers got 1-2 months after free agency and after all that happened is not much of a deal. I don't even think many people knew about that. You might be confusing the Mavs/Clippers drama with the later fine for including the endorsement in the player pitch.


This is what you are referring to:
The violation involved a presentation made by the Clippers to free agent DeAndre Jordan on July 2 that improperly included a potential third-party endorsement opportunity for the player. While the NBA's investigation ultimately concluded that the presentation of this opportunity had no impact on Jordan's decision to re-sign with the Clippers, the team's conduct nevertheless violated the league's anti-circumvention rules.

The NBA's anti-circumvention rules prohibit teams from, among other things, providing or arranging for others to provide any form of compensation to a player unless such compensation is included in a player contract or otherwise expressly permitted under the CBA.

https://bleacherreport.com/articles/2554943-clippers-fined-250000-for-offering-deandre-jordan-unauthorized-endorsements


This is what Cuban was a part of:
It wasn't funny to Cuban, Parsons or Jordan's agents, Fegan and Jarinn Akana. Jordan had been texting all of them through the weekend and into Monday as though nothing were amiss. Cuban and Jordan texted about other free agents who might be good for the Mavs. Jordan was even asking Parsons about the best places to live in Dallas.

The problem is it's easy to conceal what's really going on in text messages, and none of the men Jordan was about to turn on was with him between Friday night and Sunday night, in the roughly 48 hours in which he changed his mind.

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Nevertheless, when Parsons tweeted an emoji of a plane as if to signal he was going to fly in to help save the Mavericks' cause, all of the Clippers played along.

Redick tweeted an emoji of a car. Griffin tried to throw people off the scent by tweeting that he was in Kauai. Paul poked fun at a picture of himself, James, Anthony and Wade on a banana boat that had surfaced on the Internet by tweeting emojis of a banana and a boat. Pierce tweeted a picture of a clip art rocket that didn't quite make sense but was even funnier because of that.

Like so much of this saga, it was hard to decipher from the outside what was real and what was just part of the rush.


https://www.espn.com/nba/story/_/id/13247673/how-deandre-jordan-almost-left-los-angeles-clippers


I enjoy your posts. Measured takes and info people might not be aware of.

There is Clips history that matters here. League might be motivated to take action. Very interesting.
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Re: Pablo Torre interviews Mark Cuban 

Post#83 » by og15 » Sun Sep 7, 2025 2:15 pm

SNPA wrote:
og15 wrote:
SNPA wrote:Best part was Cuban not remembering the DeAndre Jordan situation where Ballmer did the same thing to him. Oops.

It's actually different things there. The Clippers/Mavs stuff with DeAndre Jordan had nothing to do with the unauthorized luxury vehicle company sponsorship that they were fined for, I didn't even remember that that had happened myself. The Clippers / Mavs aspect of the DeAndre Jordan situation was the whole locked in the house stuff, so Cuban not knowing about a fine the Clippers got 1-2 months after free agency is not much of a deal. I don't even think many people knew about that. You might be confusing the Mavs/Clippers drama with the later fine.

Cuban’s out there saying Ballmer isn’t dumb enough to do that, and Pablo is like uhhh…you sure. It completely undercuts Cuban’s point, and that was quality entertainment.

Well, Cuban is incorrect, because if we look at all the other people who gave Aspiration money, and/or were connected to them, it certainly wasn't that everyone was "dumb". The whole idea that it is about being smart or dumb is in itself a false way to look at it.

...but that's a different topic than why Cuban would not know about the Clippers being fined for DeAndre Jordan, which is what I was responding to.

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