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WaltFrazier wrote:Poor Rokas got hurt at Eurobasket:
https://www.msn.com/en-ca/sports/nba/knicks-international-guard-suffers-significant-acl-injury-during-eurobasket/ar-AA1LTgp5?ocid=msedgdhp&pc=U531&cvid=68bae70f4b7743f3a32b214b2a510d18&ei=8
MrDollarBills wrote:BKlutch wrote:MrDollarBills wrote:
He would have been a waste of a roster spot and everyone would hate him.
God bless.
I can understand Ben not wanting to play, after all the crazy years he's had in the NBA. But learning that Julius smoked away his time with the Knicks, that's way more upsetting. He actually disassociated while smoking? That's the equivalent of an alcoholic having blackouts and being fall down drunk, then going to play afterwards. It reminds me of how Noah was doing drugs until he left the Knicks.
I wouldn't compare the effects of weed disassociation to being black out drunk. It's two different mental states. Randle isn't the only player to be all NBA while being high off Marijuana. Everyone is different. I don't think anyone can do what Randle did in a Knicks uniform while being piss drunk.
That being said, Julius admitting that he was disassociating while high and what we saw during his last two seasons before he left (this is my time frame of reference) isn't a good thing. I don't think being high at game time is helping anything. If you're relaxing at home and have nothing to do, cool. Work? That's another story
* We have a Brunson Burner™ * ** GO NY GO NY GO NY GO! ** MrDollarBills wrote:[Henson] Clippers owner Steve Ballmer nearly granted naming rights to Aspiration, the now-bankrupt company that is alleged to have paid Kawhi Leonard millions to skirt the NBA’s salary cap but ended up choosing Intuit to grace the $2 billion venue, a source familiar with the matter said.
https://www.latimes.com/sports/story/2025-09-05/aspiration-dome-clippers-ballmer-nearly-gave-naming-rights-to-fraudulent-company
Can the Knicks start offering stuff like palatial real estate and weed as perks? I mean surely the rules don't matter anymore
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Capn'O wrote:3toheadmelo wrote:KnicksGadfly wrote:
Yep. I think one thing is really clear. The Nets don't believe in Cam Thomas. That's fine. However, they're also big losers in this scenario because they clearly wanted to control his rights, with the 9.5 million dollar 1 year office. The Golden State Warriors, for example, are doing the same dance with Kuminga. They can't pay him what he wants but if they let him take the QO, they're going to lose an asset. They got too arrogant imo. Cam definitely hasn't made much money as a late round draft pick, but they really tried to lowball him, when negotiations are also driven by emotion, not just logic.
9.5...that's super offensive. MLE is 14 mill. That's for a mid-level player in the league. Even if Cam is just a 6th man in the Nets' eyes, he's worth a lot more. Cam loses big too, but the Nets should have never let it get to the point where he has to take his QO. I'm pretty sure they have money before they hit the salary cap.
So yea, Cam loses, but the Nets lose too. They're not a team that can afford to lose assets and now they have an unhappy player that they can't move and is playing for his next contract, when they have a bunch of rookies that need good leadership and culture. Bad negotiations on their end. Not even sure Cam was the problem for their team last year.
The Bulls are playing a dangerous game with Giddey as well. I’m not sure how you trade one of your best assets in Caruso for a young PG but you refuse to pay him his worth. Especially how he led them to the play in game averaging almost a 20 PPG triple double after they got rid of Lavine.
The Grimes situation is really interesting to me. The Sixers are loaded with guards so I can see why they’re low balling Grimes. He should probably take the QO and join a new team next year.
The Bulls are so dumb and nobody should help them.
Warriors/Sixers need to figure something out. Kuminga on the Sixers and Grimes on the Warriors seem like pretty natural fits.
Grimes on the Pistons next to Cade would be filthy too.
BKlutch wrote:MrDollarBills wrote:[Henson] Clippers owner Steve Ballmer nearly granted naming rights to Aspiration, the now-bankrupt company that is alleged to have paid Kawhi Leonard millions to skirt the NBA’s salary cap but ended up choosing Intuit to grace the $2 billion venue, a source familiar with the matter said.
https://www.latimes.com/sports/story/2025-09-05/aspiration-dome-clippers-ballmer-nearly-gave-naming-rights-to-fraudulent-company
Can the Knicks start offering stuff like palatial real estate and weed as perks? I mean surely the rules don't matter anymore
How about when the Nets emplyed Flatso Irving's relatives? Surely that was sketchy, just nobody cares about that team because they currently have no hope.
MrDollarBills wrote:BKlutch wrote:MrDollarBills wrote:[Henson] Clippers owner Steve Ballmer nearly granted naming rights to Aspiration, the now-bankrupt company that is alleged to have paid Kawhi Leonard millions to skirt the NBA’s salary cap but ended up choosing Intuit to grace the $2 billion venue, a source familiar with the matter said.
https://www.latimes.com/sports/story/2025-09-05/aspiration-dome-clippers-ballmer-nearly-gave-naming-rights-to-fraudulent-company
Can the Knicks start offering stuff like palatial real estate and weed as perks? I mean surely the rules don't matter anymore
How about when the Nets emplyed Flatso Irving's relatives? Surely that was sketchy, just nobody cares about that team because they currently have no hope.
Weren't they Clara Tsai's bodyguards ? So weird.
I mean yeah that counts as cap circumventing too. A lot of shady stuff was happening over there at that time. Apparently they were offering housing to players side pieces or something.
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3toheadmelo wrote:Capn'O wrote:3toheadmelo wrote:The Bulls are playing a dangerous game with Giddey as well. I’m not sure how you trade one of your best assets in Caruso for a young PG but you refuse to pay him his worth. Especially how he led them to the play in game averaging almost a 20 PPG triple double after they got rid of Lavine.
The Grimes situation is really interesting to me. The Sixers are loaded with guards so I can see why they’re low balling Grimes. He should probably take the QO and join a new team next year.
The Bulls are so dumb and nobody should help them.
Warriors/Sixers need to figure something out. Kuminga on the Sixers and Grimes on the Warriors seem like pretty natural fits.
Grimes on the Pistons next to Cade would be filthy too.
Imagine being the Bulls gm seeing this production at 22 years old and still won't pay him
The way Kerr handled Kuminga is absolutely disgusting. I mean we saw what he can do when he's given minutes.
Grimes with Curry would be crazy. Not sure how Kuminga fits on Philly tho with PG, Oubre, Edwards there. If the Knicks didn't have OG, I would love to have Kuminga here. Im surprised the Nets didn't make Kuminga an offer and instead went after Maga Porter Jr. But then again, they're the Nets.
Chanel Bomber wrote:This board really is full of bad people.
Guano wrote:Disappointed we didnt get Simmons. not for any basketball reasons it would have been fun to give sham a hard time for being a fan of his. A real missed opportunity.
* We have a Brunson Burner™ * ** GO NY GO NY GO NY GO! ** BKlutch wrote:Guano wrote:Disappointed we didnt get Simmons. not for any basketball reasons it would have been fun to give sham a hard time for being a fan of his. A real missed opportunity.
Just be patient. It's not outside the realm of possibility that one day while you're out picking mushrooms, another opportinity could just happen to present itself.
spree2kawhi wrote:BKlutch wrote:Guano wrote:Disappointed we didnt get Simmons. not for any basketball reasons it would have been fun to give sham a hard time for being a fan of his. A real missed opportunity.
Just be patient. It's not outside the realm of possibility that one day while you're out picking mushrooms, another opportinity could just happen to present itself.
How do you know we didn’t get him? Did I miss something?
3toheadmelo wrote:Capn'O wrote:3toheadmelo wrote:The Bulls are playing a dangerous game with Giddey as well. I’m not sure how you trade one of your best assets in Caruso for a young PG but you refuse to pay him his worth. Especially how he led them to the play in game averaging almost a 20 PPG triple double after they got rid of Lavine.
The Grimes situation is really interesting to me. The Sixers are loaded with guards so I can see why they’re low balling Grimes. He should probably take the QO and join a new team next year.
The Bulls are so dumb and nobody should help them.
Warriors/Sixers need to figure something out. Kuminga on the Sixers and Grimes on the Warriors seem like pretty natural fits.
Grimes on the Pistons next to Cade would be filthy too.
Imagine being the Bulls gm seeing this production at 22 years old and still won't pay him
The way Kerr handled Kuminga is absolutely disgusting. I mean we saw what he can do when he's given minutes.
Grimes with Curry would be crazy. Not sure how Kuminga fits on Philly tho with PG, Oubre, Edwards there. If the Knicks didn't have OG, I would love to have Kuminga here. Im surprised the Nets didn't make Kuminga an offer and instead went after Maga Porter Jr. But then again, they're the Nets.
Wildcat wrote:3toheadmelo wrote:Capn'O wrote:
The Bulls are so dumb and nobody should help them.
Warriors/Sixers need to figure something out. Kuminga on the Sixers and Grimes on the Warriors seem like pretty natural fits.
Grimes on the Pistons next to Cade would be filthy too.
Imagine being the Bulls gm seeing this production at 22 years old and still won't pay him
The way Kerr handled Kuminga is absolutely disgusting. I mean we saw what he can do when he's given minutes.
Grimes with Curry would be crazy. Not sure how Kuminga fits on Philly tho with PG, Oubre, Edwards there. If the Knicks didn't have OG, I would love to have Kuminga here. Im surprised the Nets didn't make Kuminga an offer and instead went after Maga Porter Jr. But then again, they're the Nets.
I can't even blame Kerr on this. I've always felt he was doing this because front office told him to do it to tank Kuminga's value so they can force him to resign on a cheaper contract.
JayTWill wrote:KnicksGadfly wrote:3toheadmelo wrote:15 mil for one year and then the nets hold him hostage by accepting the team option in a offseason where a bunch of teams have cap space doesn't seem smart in the long term in my eyes. Would you rather have 15 mil for 1 year or 15 mil over the next 4 years?
Yep. I think one thing is really clear. The Nets don't believe in Cam Thomas. That's fine. However, they're also big losers in this scenario because they clearly wanted to control his rights, with the 9.5 million dollar 1 year office. The Golden State Warriors, for example, are doing the same dance with Kuminga. They can't pay him what he wants but if they let him take the QO, they're going to lose an asset. They got too arrogant imo. Cam definitely hasn't made much money as a late round draft pick, but they really tried to lowball him, when negotiations are also driven by emotion, not just logic.
9.5...that's super offensive. MLE is 14 mill. That's for a mid-level player in the league. Even if Cam is just a 6th man in the Nets' eyes, he's worth a lot more. Cam loses big too, but the Nets should have never let it get to the point where he has to take his QO. I'm pretty sure they have money before they hit the salary cap.
So yea, Cam loses, but the Nets lose too. They're not a team that can afford to lose assets and now they have an unhappy player that they can't move and is playing for his next contract, when they have a bunch of rookies that need good leadership and culture. Bad negotiations on their end. Not even sure Cam was the problem for their team last year.
But how much do the Nets lose? It seems like the league has begun to devalue the Cam Thomas types. For example someone like Collin Sexton has been putting up almost 20 ppg on better efficiency for the last 2 years on a rebuilding Utah team in a slightly smaller role than Cam Thomas. Ainge who is known to try to attempt to squeeze out every ounce of value in a trade just sent out Sexton along with a 2nd round pick for an older, slightly more expensive Nurkic to join the tanking Jazz team.
The Jazz also couldn't find a taker for Clarkson's $14M deal and he was bought out. The Grizzlies couldn't find a taker for Cole Anthony''s $13M and his contract was waived and stretched. Both of them were acquired by their current teams for the vet min. If the Nets don't believe in Cam Thomas this may not be a situation where they just offer him more money or a longer deal and just flip him for value later. They may have just been stuck with a player that they and other teams no longer value.
2 years at 15M per year may have been the most they thought they could give him and still possibly flip him for neutral value or just let him walk. They have the benefit of not worrying about losing his salary slot as they have plenty of capspace and I wouldn't be shocked if someone like Sexton could be had for much less than $15M next year unless he is just an incredible fit on the Hornets.
BKlutch wrote:MrDollarBills wrote:[Henson] Clippers owner Steve Ballmer nearly granted naming rights to Aspiration, the now-bankrupt company that is alleged to have paid Kawhi Leonard millions to skirt the NBA’s salary cap but ended up choosing Intuit to grace the $2 billion venue, a source familiar with the matter said.
https://www.latimes.com/sports/story/2025-09-05/aspiration-dome-clippers-ballmer-nearly-gave-naming-rights-to-fraudulent-company
Can the Knicks start offering stuff like palatial real estate and weed as perks? I mean surely the rules don't matter anymore
How about when the Nets emplyed Flatso Irving's relatives? Surely that was sketchy, just nobody cares about that team because they currently have no hope.
ctorres wrote:BKlutch wrote:MrDollarBills wrote:[Henson] Clippers owner Steve Ballmer nearly granted naming rights to Aspiration, the now-bankrupt company that is alleged to have paid Kawhi Leonard millions to skirt the NBA’s salary cap but ended up choosing Intuit to grace the $2 billion venue, a source familiar with the matter said.
https://www.latimes.com/sports/story/2025-09-05/aspiration-dome-clippers-ballmer-nearly-gave-naming-rights-to-fraudulent-company
Can the Knicks start offering stuff like palatial real estate and weed as perks? I mean surely the rules don't matter anymore
How about when the Nets emplyed Flatso Irving's relatives? Surely that was sketchy, just nobody cares about that team because they currently have no hope.
I remember when Stephon Marbury's brother Zachary was on the Knicks summer league team in 2004, and of course when JR Smith's brother Chris was on the Knicks in 2013!
Richard4444 wrote:Also, Kuminga is not a great fit in GSW because there are many bad shooters in the team: Butler, Dray, Kuminga... Also Podzinski is not reliable from deep.
