Anthony, Howard, Bird, Moore, Fowles Enter Hall Of Fame

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Re: Anthony, Howard, Bird, Moore, Fowles Enter Hall Of Fame 

Post#21 » by Charlesareed » Mon Sep 8, 2025 11:15 am

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And both won absolutely nothing. Not counting Dwight's ring as a 7th/8th man rotational piece in the bubble.

The HOF would be fairly empty if it only had championship winners in it. No Stockton, Malone, Barkley, Iverson etc just off the top of my head.


Malone and (especially) Stockton are the two most overrated players of all time. Played 15+ years together, with a stacked team, in a conference not including MJ and all they have to show for it is 1 CF and 1 final.
Iverson and Barkley are similar to Melo - empty stats and not much else. At least Barkley had a pretty good all-round game. Iverson was scoring and dribbling - in today's NBA he would be the equivalent of Zach Lavine, or Donovan Mitchel at best. None of those two are even All Stars, at least not consistently.
Yes, eras and context matters, but still. And yes, there are many HoFers who, imo, don't deserve to be there, but that's just my opinion. For me, the HoF should be reserved for the absolute elite. And if there is a year/class where no one covers those criteria, then there should be no inductions. However, as everything else, the league has commercialized the HoF as well, turning it into an annual show nobody cares about, just like the AS game.



They went the nba finals b2b only to lose to MJ
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Re: Anthony, Howard, Bird, Moore, Fowles Enter Hall Of Fame 

Post#22 » by TheCage4 » Mon Sep 8, 2025 11:30 am

Baseball Hall of Fame is no different. They have all become the Hall of the Very Good.
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