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Re: 49ers @ Seahawks - Week 1 

Post#321 » by arich35 » Mon Sep 8, 2025 11:00 pm

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Purdy's INTs were as boneheaded as they come but given the pressure rate his performance wasn't that bad.

They definitely need to get that pressure rate down as granted it's the NFL and a QB has to perform while under duress but you can't expect a great performance if over half your dropbacks you don't have time to scan the field and let plays develop.


He was forcing those passes as no one was getting open downfield. Losing Kittle was a big blow that game as thin as the receiving crew was yesterday. Losing Jennings also it became Pearsall and a bunch of waiver wire scrubs. Purdy needs to checkdown more and not force what isn't going to be there and Kyle has to script some shorter routes


When they needed to move the ball, it was simple circle patters out of the backfield to CMC. LBs dropped enough to give him room to catch 5-yard passes and he turned up for a couple of 7-9 yard gains. That means the defense was trying to deny the medium middle. Pearsall said he did a post-corner catch that would have gone to the post but the safeties were sitting in the middle denying it.

Purdy made a lot of big passes to Aiyuk for like 15-20 yard gains on those posts and dig routes so I think defenses are going to take them away and dare him to throw corners or flags to the sidelines, which require more arm strength.

In fact there was a corner pattern to the right front pylon in the end zone that drifted too slowly because Purdy lofted the ball. Pearsall was open but the ball wasn't zipped as hard so Woolen I think was able to use his length to bat it away at the last second. Can Purdy make a "rope" throw on a corner pattern like that? Maybe, maybe not. But he could have also lofted it more towards the back pylon and that would have probably gotten over the defender though maybe a tougher catch for Pearsall at the back of the end zone.

One of Purdy's ints he tried to loft it over the LB, again, it was between the hashes, one of the bread and butter passes he connected with Aiyuk when Aiyuk had his big season.

So if teams are going to drop back the LBs and have the safeties play robber, there should be more room for CMC to catch and turn up before the LBs and DBs rally to the ball. But Purdy has shown he can throw to the outside sometimes, though if you looked at his pass chart, probably a majority are between the hashes.


To be fair this is a pass he has made a ton early in his career to a lot of success, hell it happened the opening drive to Kittle but a shorter pass for a TD. Their DB barely got a fingertip on the ball and if I remember correctly the broadcast said he is 6'4 with a big wingspan (not a ton of those around). Even if Purdy would have thrown that 1/10th of second sooner which he typically does that would have been a TD and a great pass. Yeah if he had more speed on the ball it would have been a TD too but it was also a great play and not many DBs would have gotten a fingertip on that ball
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Re: 49ers @ Seahawks - Week 1 

Post#322 » by Pattersonca65 » Mon Sep 8, 2025 11:23 pm

Purdy is on the injury report. Shoulder non throwing and toe. Questionable for next week
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Re: 49ers @ Seahawks - Week 1 

Post#323 » by Harry Palmer » Mon Sep 8, 2025 11:35 pm

On the 2nd interception he got shoved pretty hard in the non-throwing shoulder as he was throwing…didn’t notice it live, thought he had more time. Not so much excusing him (think it was a bad decision either way) but wondering if that’s where he got hurt.
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Re: 49ers @ Seahawks - Week 1 

Post#324 » by arich35 » Mon Sep 8, 2025 11:38 pm

Harry Palmer wrote:On the 2nd interception he got shoved pretty hard in the non-throwing shoulder as he was throwing…didn’t notice it live, thought he had more time. Not so much excusing him (think it was a bad decision either way) but wondering if that’s where he got hurt.


Someone thought it was being driven to the ground in the first half on one of his throws to Pearsall but who knows
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Re: 49ers @ Seahawks - Week 1 

Post#325 » by CrimsonCrew » Mon Sep 8, 2025 11:55 pm

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He was forcing those passes as no one was getting open downfield. Losing Kittle was a big blow that game as thin as the receiving crew was yesterday. Losing Jennings also it became Pearsall and a bunch of waiver wire scrubs. Purdy needs to checkdown more and not force what isn't going to be there and Kyle has to script some shorter routes


When they needed to move the ball, it was simple circle patters out of the backfield to CMC. LBs dropped enough to give him room to catch 5-yard passes and he turned up for a couple of 7-9 yard gains. That means the defense was trying to deny the medium middle. Pearsall said he did a post-corner catch that would have gone to the post but the safeties were sitting in the middle denying it.

Purdy made a lot of big passes to Aiyuk for like 15-20 yard gains on those posts and dig routes so I think defenses are going to take them away and dare him to throw corners or flags to the sidelines, which require more arm strength.

In fact there was a corner pattern to the right front pylon in the end zone that drifted too slowly because Purdy lofted the ball. Pearsall was open but the ball wasn't zipped as hard so Woolen I think was able to use his length to bat it away at the last second. Can Purdy make a "rope" throw on a corner pattern like that? Maybe, maybe not. But he could have also lofted it more towards the back pylon and that would have probably gotten over the defender though maybe a tougher catch for Pearsall at the back of the end zone.

One of Purdy's ints he tried to loft it over the LB, again, it was between the hashes, one of the bread and butter passes he connected with Aiyuk when Aiyuk had his big season.

So if teams are going to drop back the LBs and have the safeties play robber, there should be more room for CMC to catch and turn up before the LBs and DBs rally to the ball. But Purdy has shown he can throw to the outside sometimes, though if you looked at his pass chart, probably a majority are between the hashes.


To be fair this is a pass he has made a ton early in his career to a lot of success, hell it happened the opening drive to Kittle but a shorter pass for a TD. Their DB barely got a fingertip on the ball and if I remember correctly the broadcast said he is 6'4 with a big wingspan (not a ton of those around). Even if Purdy would have thrown that 1/10th of second sooner which he typically does that would have been a TD and a great pass. Yeah if he had more speed on the ball it would have been a TD too but it was also a great play and not many DBs would have gotten a fingertip on that ball


Yeah, Purdy could have put more zip on it, but Woolen is a physical freak at 6'4" (99th percentile), 33 5'8" arms (97th percentile), a 42" vertical (97th percentile), and 4.26 40 (99th percentile). Not many guys get a hand on that ball. Granted Woolen's coverage isn't always stellar.
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Re: 49ers @ Seahawks - Week 1 

Post#326 » by thesack12 » Tue Sep 9, 2025 1:15 am

Pattersonca65 wrote:Missed Crimson and Sack in the game thread today


Aww, its nice to be appreciated :D

I was on a cross country train yesterday, and was in a very rural region during the game. Unfortunately I missed like 90% of the game. So I can't really comment much on the specifics of the game, and haven't had a chance to catch the full replay yet.

Seems like the defense was the main story. Being able to get off the field on 3rd down is a very welcomed change. Forced 2 turnovers, that dramatically shifted the flow of the game. The 2nd one literally clinching the game.

Soooooo nice to see the defense come through in the clutch and close a game out. We sure haven't seen that happen much in recent years. Was also nice to see the offense come through and complete a 4th quarter comeback as well. 4th quarter comebacks haven been kinda rare during the Shanahan era.

Special teams on the other hand.... somehow they continue to be a ground hog day type of disaster. It simply can't continue, but we've been saying that for quite some time.
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Re: 49ers @ Seahawks - Week 1 

Post#327 » by Jikkle » Tue Sep 9, 2025 3:59 am

clyde21 wrote:Bosa lead our defense per PFF with 82.5 grade, Winters next up with 76.2

our rookies all did terribly, Collins the worst with 27.9, next up Stout 32.5, Mykel 47. Best rook was Sigle with 59.8.


To be fair to Collins he had only 9 snaps so it's a pretty small sample size.

I'd have to give it a rewatch but Stout struggled early but seemed like he was fine as the game went on.

Honestly with PFF grades I think there is some value in them but the more I see them the more it really just need to watch the game to know how people did.

I mean they had Sam Darnold at an 82.6 grade and he basically did nothing of note. Nothing really bad and nothing really good so if you look at just the PFF score you'd think that Darnold had a pretty good game when he basically had just an average game.

Not to mention Bartch and Brendel were in the top 5 of offensive players which maybe on a rewatch it was the other guys struggling but it certainly felt like everybody on the line were taking turns messing up.
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Re: 49ers @ Seahawks - Week 1 

Post#328 » by CrimsonCrew » Tue Sep 9, 2025 4:05 pm

Jikkle wrote:
clyde21 wrote:Bosa lead our defense per PFF with 82.5 grade, Winters next up with 76.2

our rookies all did terribly, Collins the worst with 27.9, next up Stout 32.5, Mykel 47. Best rook was Sigle with 59.8.


To be fair to Collins he had only 9 snaps so it's a pretty small sample size.

I'd have to give it a rewatch but Stout struggled early but seemed like he was fine as the game went on.

Honestly with PFF grades I think there is some value in them but the more I see them the more it really just need to watch the game to know how people did.

I mean they had Sam Darnold at an 82.6 grade and he basically did nothing of note. Nothing really bad and nothing really good so if you look at just the PFF score you'd think that Darnold had a pretty good game when he basically had just an average game.

Not to mention Bartch and Brendel were in the top 5 of offensive players which maybe on a rewatch it was the other guys struggling but it certainly felt like everybody on the line were taking turns messing up.


Yeah, PFF grades are a tool, but not the be-all, end-all. Darnold was okay, but he struggled on third down (5 of 7, but for just 21 yards) and then coughed up the ball to lose the game. Amazingly, he didn't attempt a pass in the red zone. Only time there was a called red zone pass was the fumble to end it. Seems like that game shouldn't result in an 82.6.
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Re: 49ers @ Seahawks - Week 1 

Post#329 » by RIPskaterdude » Tue Sep 9, 2025 5:48 pm

CrimsonCrew wrote:
Jikkle wrote:
clyde21 wrote:Bosa lead our defense per PFF with 82.5 grade, Winters next up with 76.2

our rookies all did terribly, Collins the worst with 27.9, next up Stout 32.5, Mykel 47. Best rook was Sigle with 59.8.


To be fair to Collins he had only 9 snaps so it's a pretty small sample size.

I'd have to give it a rewatch but Stout struggled early but seemed like he was fine as the game went on.

Honestly with PFF grades I think there is some value in them but the more I see them the more it really just need to watch the game to know how people did.

I mean they had Sam Darnold at an 82.6 grade and he basically did nothing of note. Nothing really bad and nothing really good so if you look at just the PFF score you'd think that Darnold had a pretty good game when he basically had just an average game.

Not to mention Bartch and Brendel were in the top 5 of offensive players which maybe on a rewatch it was the other guys struggling but it certainly felt like everybody on the line were taking turns messing up.


Yeah, PFF grades are a tool, but not the be-all, end-all. Darnold was okay, but he struggled on third down (5 of 7, but for just 21 yards) and then coughed up the ball to lose the game. Amazingly, he didn't attempt a pass in the red zone. Only time there was a called red zone pass was the fumble to end it. Seems like that game shouldn't result in an 82.6.
The PI wasn't in the red zone?
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Re: 49ers @ Seahawks - Week 1 

Post#330 » by thesack12 » Tue Sep 9, 2025 6:02 pm

RIPskaterdude wrote:
CrimsonCrew wrote:
Jikkle wrote:
To be fair to Collins he had only 9 snaps so it's a pretty small sample size.

I'd have to give it a rewatch but Stout struggled early but seemed like he was fine as the game went on.

Honestly with PFF grades I think there is some value in them but the more I see them the more it really just need to watch the game to know how people did.

I mean they had Sam Darnold at an 82.6 grade and he basically did nothing of note. Nothing really bad and nothing really good so if you look at just the PFF score you'd think that Darnold had a pretty good game when he basically had just an average game.

Not to mention Bartch and Brendel were in the top 5 of offensive players which maybe on a rewatch it was the other guys struggling but it certainly felt like everybody on the line were taking turns messing up.


Yeah, PFF grades are a tool, but not the be-all, end-all. Darnold was okay, but he struggled on third down (5 of 7, but for just 21 yards) and then coughed up the ball to lose the game. Amazingly, he didn't attempt a pass in the red zone. Only time there was a called red zone pass was the fumble to end it. Seems like that game shouldn't result in an 82.6.
The PI wasn't in the red zone?


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