Bulls re-sign Josh Giddey - 4/100- no options, fully guaranteed

[Red8911]

Finally! This was the number that was fair to both sides, IMO. I think we could've gotten here two months quicker. Glad it didn't get to the QO.

Yeah most of us expected 25 from the first day, especially after we knew that the one side wanted 20 while the other 30..

25 was always the most logical number. Better late than never and yes good thing he never took that QO.

[GoBlue72391]

Not a good deal, not a bad deal. Just an acceptable deal. We overpaid, but not by a lot. Overpaying slightly is probably the better outcome over going QO or whatever the alternative was.

There's a chance it could be a bargain deal in the future, and there's also the chance it could go the way of Vuc's and Pat's extension.

It's all on Giddey.

[DropStep]

Whew. Is this good news? Feels like pretty good news.

Let's hope it works out better than the 5 for 90 we handed out last offseason has so far. Which seems like 3 years ago. How is that only a season ago? 80% of that deal is still on the books.

That's where my mind went. I am apparently now very suspicious of good news.

[MGB8]

Whew. Is this good news? Feels like pretty good news.

Let's hope it works out better than the 5 for 90 we handed out last offseason has so far. Which seems like 3 years ago. How is that only a season ago? 80% of that deal is still on the books.

That's where my mind went. I am apparently now very suspicious of good news.

In fairness, Pat’s regression is unusual. Normally players get better than they were as rookies and sophomores, not worse.

[Red Larrivee]

Fair deal that still has reasonable upside and protects downside. Can't complain

[nomorezorro]

i don't think it's that protected against downside tbh

[sco]

i don't think it's that protected against downside tbh

I agree, but I also think that a deal that protected against downside would probably cost more. By that I mean it would have needed to be 4/$120 with a 4th year TO.

That said, between Coby's and Josh's year-end upswing, I view Josh's as likely more sustainable based on how he did in the play-in, against a team focused on him.

I'm happy they got this done before it became a camp issue.

I'll say that this season isn't about winning as much as it will be about building chemistry around Giddey and Matas (and to learn if Coby is a benefit or detriment to that). The team seemed to make a decision not to take a bigger step by getting rid of Vuc (who as EVERYBODY knows I view as a major impediment to their progression/development).

[BullChit]

I am soooo stunned.

I was hoping this would drag on a little longer, so ya’ll could sweat it out longer, and enjoy the discussions further.

Give it some time and the discussion will begin about whether Josh is worth 25 million per... That will be a fluctuating ongoing discussion that will change game by game.

[coldfish]

Nailed it. That said, this was highly predictable. I suspect the Bulls were offering $20m per year the whole time just to get him to move off the $30m number. I wonder if it is flat.

[coldfish]

Good deal for both. Look forward to seeing where this goes.

Good to see you back Magilla

[sco]

Good deal for both. Look forward to seeing where this goes.

Good to see you back Magilla

X2

[GuardianEnzo]

ROFL that after all that hand-wringing and bad-taking, they ended up exactly where most of us expected all along.

[MAQ]

Not a good deal, not a bad deal. Just an acceptable deal. We overpaid, but not by a lot. Overpaying slightly is probably the better outcome over going QO or whatever the alternative was.

There's a chance it could be a bargain deal in the future, and there's also the chance it could go the way of Vuc's and Pat's extension.

It's all on Giddey.

I dont feel like this is an overpay ay all. In all honesty, I think if more teams had cap space this year, we wouldn't have been able to retain him for under 30.

Players as young as him with his level of production get paid off of potential. Patrick Williams is making only 7 million less than Giddey. Tyler Herro signed a 4 year 130 million dollar contract. Jalen green signed a shorter deal but more salary per year. I could go on.

Im hopeful giddey continues to improve and we have a steal of a contract. Im expecting it, tbh. And this may be the best trade chip we have ever had. I smell a Ja Morant trade in the near future lmao.

[GoBlue72391]

Not a good deal, not a bad deal. Just an acceptable deal. We overpaid, but not by a lot. Overpaying slightly is probably the better outcome over going QO or whatever the alternative was.

There's a chance it could be a bargain deal in the future, and there's also the chance it could go the way of Vuc's and Pat's extension.

It's all on Giddey.

I dont feel like this is an overpay ay all. In all honesty, I think if more teams had cap space this year, we wouldn't have been able to retain him for under 30.

Players as young as him with his level of production get paid off of potential. Patrick Williams is making only 7 million less than Giddey. Tyler Herro signed a 4 year 130 million dollar contract. Jalen green signed a shorter deal but more salary per year. I could go on.

Im hopeful giddey continues to improve and we have a steal of a contract. Im expecting it, tbh. And this may be the best trade chip we have ever had. I smell a Ja Morant trade in the near future lmao.

If he's as good as his last couple months then it's the bargain of the century. There’s a good chance that's not the case, though. At that point it's an overpay.

He's still an unknown, so for now it's a slight overpay.

There’s a lot of risk here, but I'm ok with taking that chance. I was infuriated with Pat's and Vuc's extensions but I'm neutral-to-slightly positive with this one.

[_txchilibowl_]

Good.

[Mk0]

Not a good deal, not a bad deal. Just an acceptable deal. We overpaid, but not by a lot. Overpaying slightly is probably the better outcome over going QO or whatever the alternative was.

There's a chance it could be a bargain deal in the future, and there's also the chance it could go the way of Vuc's and Pat's extension.

It's all on Giddey.

I dont feel like this is an overpay ay all. In all honesty, I think if more teams had cap space this year, we wouldn't have been able to retain him for under 30.

Players as young as him with his level of production get paid off of potential. Patrick Williams is making only 7 million less than Giddey. Tyler Herro signed a 4 year 130 million dollar contract. Jalen green signed a shorter deal but more salary per year. I could go on.

Im hopeful giddey continues to improve and we have a steal of a contract. Im expecting it, tbh. And this may be the best trade chip we have ever had. I smell a Ja Morant trade in the near future lmao.

Quickley is making 32.5mil and RJ Barrett is making almost 28mil.

This contract is nothing compared to some of the deals guys have been getting.

[MAQ]

Not a good deal, not a bad deal. Just an acceptable deal. We overpaid, but not by a lot. Overpaying slightly is probably the better outcome over going QO or whatever the alternative was.

There's a chance it could be a bargain deal in the future, and there's also the chance it could go the way of Vuc's and Pat's extension.

It's all on Giddey.

I dont feel like this is an overpay ay all. In all honesty, I think if more teams had cap space this year, we wouldn't have been able to retain him for under 30.

Players as young as him with his level of production get paid off of potential. Patrick Williams is making only 7 million less than Giddey. Tyler Herro signed a 4 year 130 million dollar contract. Jalen green signed a shorter deal but more salary per year. I could go on.

Im hopeful giddey continues to improve and we have a steal of a contract. Im expecting it, tbh. And this may be the best trade chip we have ever had. I smell a Ja Morant trade in the near future lmao.

If he's as good as his last couple months then it's the bargain of the century. There’s a good chance that's not the case, though. At that point it's an overpay.

He's still an unknown, so for now it's a slight overpay.

There’s a lot of risk here, but I'm ok with taking that chance. I was infuriated with Pat's and Vuc's extensions but I'm neutral-to-slightly positive with this one.

Respectfully, it can't go from bargain of the century to an overpay because it didn't meet a specific production level. There HAS to be an in-between.

[Red Larrivee]

Not a good deal, not a bad deal. Just an acceptable deal. We overpaid, but not by a lot. Overpaying slightly is probably the better outcome over going QO or whatever the alternative was.

There's a chance it could be a bargain deal in the future, and there's also the chance it could go the way of Vuc's and Pat's extension.

It's all on Giddey.

I dont feel like this is an overpay ay all. In all honesty, I think if more teams had cap space this year, we wouldn't have been able to retain him for under 30.

Players as young as him with his level of production get paid off of potential. Patrick Williams is making only 7 million less than Giddey. Tyler Herro signed a 4 year 130 million dollar contract. Jalen green signed a shorter deal but more salary per year. I could go on.

Im hopeful giddey continues to improve and we have a steal of a contract. Im expecting it, tbh. And this may be the best trade chip we have ever had. I smell a Ja Morant trade in the near future lmao.

If he's as good as his last couple months then it's the bargain of the century. There’s a good chance that's not the case, though. At that point it's an overpay.

He's still an unknown, so for now it's a slight overpay.

There’s a lot of risk here, but I'm ok with taking that chance. I was infuriated with Pat's and Vuc's extensions but I'm neutral-to-slightly positive with this one.

Giddey doesn't have to play at post ASB levels to justify 25M. 25M for Giddey is not "a lot" of risk. Look around the league at what 25M gets you these days and what it's projected to get you moving forward. Giddey is being paid like the 79th best player in the league.

Even if he's the player he was in OKC, that's still a player that could get 20ish per year.

[Axl Rose]

Regardless of how it ends up I just don't see how we could have got him for anything less than 25.

[jnrjr79]

I dont feel like this is an overpay ay all. In all honesty, I think if more teams had cap space this year, we wouldn't have been able to retain him for under 30.

Players as young as him with his level of production get paid off of potential. Patrick Williams is making only 7 million less than Giddey. Tyler Herro signed a 4 year 130 million dollar contract. Jalen green signed a shorter deal but more salary per year. I could go on.

Im hopeful giddey continues to improve and we have a steal of a contract. Im expecting it, tbh. And this may be the best trade chip we have ever had. I smell a Ja Morant trade in the near future lmao.

If he's as good as his last couple months then it's the bargain of the century. There’s a good chance that's not the case, though. At that point it's an overpay.

He's still an unknown, so for now it's a slight overpay.

There’s a lot of risk here, but I'm ok with taking that chance. I was infuriated with Pat's and Vuc's extensions but I'm neutral-to-slightly positive with this one.

Giddey doesn't have to play at post ASB levels to justify 25M. 25M for Giddey is not "a lot" of risk. Look around the league at what 25M gets you these days and what it's projected to get you moving forward. Giddey is being paid like the 79th best player in the league.

Even if he's the player he was in OKC, that's still a player that could get 20ish per year.

IMO first 61 games of Giddey: $25M is overpay, last 21 games of Giddey: $25M is underpay

In between Giddey? Probably appropriately paid.