OT : Eurobasket 2025 semifinals | Türkiye vs Greece | & | Finland vs Germany |

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European champion will be (poll starting at 1/4 finals) ?

Poll ended at Sat Sep 13, 2025 7:35 am

Lithuania
5
6%
Greece
18
21%
Türkiye
18
21%
Poland
3
4%
Germany
27
32%
Slovenia
6
7%
Finland
8
9%
Georgia
0
No votes
 
Total votes: 85

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Re: OT : Eurobasket 2025 - Türkiye and Greece in the Final 4 

Post#1841 » by LuDux1 » Wed Sep 10, 2025 1:30 pm

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UcanUwill wrote:
Rytas and Žalgiris used to develop talents up their butt 25 years ago, Macijauskas, Šiškauskas, guys like that came from Rytas program, now nothing like that comes up it seems. Žalgiris always among favorites in these Euroleague youth tournaments, but who was the last Euro star Žalgiris developed really, I can not think of one, Jokubaitis is the closest one. Even Hartenstein they didn't really develop, they had him for a year, and more so tanked his draft value we could argue.

Sorry for nitpicking, but Macijauskas and Šiskauskas came to Lietuvos Rytas aged 19 and 20 respectively, I don't think Rytas had much development left to do at that stage. I watched lots if not all of Sakalai games and Šiskauskas at like 19 looked like if not the best player, then player with highest ceiling in LKL for sure, at least to me. And remember Macas getting some obscure youth tourney prize at age 17 and openly laughing saying come on, let me play with grown men already.
Now we have nothing close to that, unfortunately.


In their last season with Neptūnas and Sakalai respectively, they were averaging 17 and 20 points respectively. In Sakalai Šiškauskas played with Matas Buzelis; father. Speaking of Macas, in u18 qualification tournaments he averaged twice less than Donatas Zavackas. But then Zavackas moved abroad, there random Lithuanian players become stars...
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Re: OT : Eurobasket 2025 - Türkiye and Greece in the Final 4 

Post#1842 » by LuDux1 » Wed Sep 10, 2025 1:36 pm

UcanUwill wrote:Recently, relatively relevant LKL team Lietkabelis, seemed like the only team that really trusted young players and let them develop, or rather it was Serbian coach Canak I believe his name, who is one of the best coach in Lithuanian league. That team developed Rubstavicius, who signed with Žalgiris this summer, they gave a lot of minutes to Murauskas, who is one of our most promising forwards, currently in NCAA, and they developed few other guys who were scooped by Rytas and Žalgiris later on.


As a certified Lietkabelis (more like Serbflopperis) hater, I must disagree. It's easy to play and develop young players then you get top talents. Now if Canak played Grantas Vasiliauskas instead of that rich Serbian kid who doesn't take basketball seriously...


UcanUwill wrote:Our club league is getting better, now teams like Neptūnas and Lietkabelis can sustain a National team level player or two,


In related news Šiauliai (#7 last season) reportedly signed Cem Reddish straight from LA Lakers
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Re: OT : Eurobasket 2025 - Türkiye and Greece in the Final 4 

Post#1843 » by BruttoNostra » Wed Sep 10, 2025 2:16 pm

What a fun game so far between Finland and Georgia. Very well-coached teams, great execution on both ends. I'll root for whatever team wins to take the Gold (except for if/when they play Luka)
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Re: OT : Eurobasket 2025 - Türkiye and Greece in the Final 4 

Post#1844 » by knicksfan974 » Wed Sep 10, 2025 2:23 pm

How about this Susijengi? 8-)
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Re: OT : Eurobasket 2025 - Türkiye and Greece in the Final 4 

Post#1845 » by Foliohattu » Wed Sep 10, 2025 2:35 pm

Jantunen is so solid for this level, borderline NBA role player
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Re: OT : Eurobasket 2025 - Türkiye and Greece in the Final 4 

Post#1846 » by peZt » Wed Sep 10, 2025 2:39 pm

I can’t get enough of watching guys like Sandro who have such soft and smooth wrists and hands. It looks sooo smooth the way he handles and moves the ball.
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Re: OT : Eurobasket 2025 - Türkiye and Greece in the Final 4 

Post#1847 » by peZt » Wed Sep 10, 2025 2:44 pm

Man it’s soooo refreshing watching fiba ball. 40 minutes and it’s already half time. In the nba we’d already have had 10 additional timeouts, ads and constant interruptions and breaks

Put nba talent under fiba rules and I guarantee you NBA ratings go up by 50% in 10 years
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Re: OT : Eurobasket 2025 - Türkiye and Greece in the Final 4 

Post#1848 » by Foliohattu » Wed Sep 10, 2025 2:54 pm

18 assist to 1 turnover and shooting 10/15 from 3 in the first half by Finland, can't ask for a better half
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Re: OT : Eurobasket 2025 - Türkiye and Greece in the Final 4 

Post#1849 » by Crunch 99 » Wed Sep 10, 2025 2:57 pm

If Georgia put all their focus towards just slowing down Markkanen a bit, they made a mistake. Finland is looking like a complete team, with three guys in double figures at the half and thirty points from their bench. Markkanen looked content to spread the offense around the first half.
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Re: OT : Eurobasket 2025 - Türkiye and Greece in the Final 4 

Post#1850 » by God Squad » Wed Sep 10, 2025 3:14 pm

peZt wrote:I can’t get enough of watching guys like Sandro who have such soft and smooth wrists and hands. It looks sooo smooth the way he handles and moves the ball.

Yeah, I've been watching him since he's a recent signing. His touch/jumper is impressive.

- Edit- He just brought it to 9 with a crafty steal.
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Re: OT : Eurobasket 2025 - Türkiye and Greece in the Final 4 

Post#1851 » by knicksfan974 » Wed Sep 10, 2025 3:14 pm

Sasu Salin still among the most lethal shooters in Europe.
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Re: OT : Eurobasket 2025 - Türkiye and Greece in the Final 4 

Post#1852 » by Mirotic12 » Wed Sep 10, 2025 3:14 pm

BruttoNostra wrote:I wonder if it's like a new reality for LT basketball (focusing more on foreign players in their league, like with Zalgiris), or it's just a one-time flop, and with more players committing/better coach they can easily return to being favorites in every major tournament?


Lithuanian league is getting better and better every year. That will help their national team.
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Re: OT : Eurobasket 2025 - Türkiye and Greece in the Final 4 

Post#1853 » by Mirotic12 » Wed Sep 10, 2025 3:18 pm

Mone 24 wrote:Sloukas is one of the most important player of the Euroleague history.
And he has been crucial for the last Pana's successes.

Honestly, speaking about him being a starter or not is disrespectful.


It is true that Sloukas has had a great EuroLeague career. Sloukas was voted the #25 best player in EuroLeague history.

https://forums.realgm.com/boards/viewtopic.php?t=2460620

The EuroLeague's Top 25 Players of All-Time:

1. Vassilis Spanoulis (Greece)

2. Sergio Llull (Spain)

3. Nando De Colo (France)

4. Ramunas Siskauskas (Lithuania)

5. Nikola Vujcic (Croatia)

6. Mike James (USA)

7. Dimitris Diamantidis (Greece)

8. Anthony Parker (USA)

9. Vasilije Micic (Serbia)

10. Sergio Rodriguez (Spain)

11. Edy Tavares (Cape Verde)

12. Milos Teodosic (Serbia)

13. Luka Doncic (Slovenia)

14. Dejan Bodiroga (Serbia)

15. Georgios Printezis (Greece)

16. Kyle Hines (USA)

17. Theodoros Papaloukas (Greece)

18. Bogdan Bogdanovic (Serbia)

19. Juan Carlos Navarro (Spain)

20. Mike Batiste (USA)

21. Shane Larkin (USA)

22. Sarunas Jasikevicius (Lithuania)

23. Manu Ginobili (Argentina)

24. Rudy Fernandez (Spain)

25. Kostas Sloukas (Greece)


So yes, Sloukas is one of the most important players in the history of the EuroLeague.

What is also true, is that Sloukas is now 35 years old, and at this current point in time, he's the 4th guard in Panathinaikos' guard rotation. Which isn't at all strange, given his age. As next season, will be his age 36 season.

There is nothing at all disrespectful about stating the truth and facts here.
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Re: OT : Eurobasket 2025 - Türkiye and Greece in the Final 4 

Post#1854 » by Mavrelous » Wed Sep 10, 2025 3:24 pm

The Georgians made a game out of this, respect...
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Re: OT : Eurobasket 2025 - Türkiye and Greece in the Final 4 

Post#1855 » by God Squad » Wed Sep 10, 2025 3:25 pm

Sandro Mamukelashvili putting in work now.
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Re: OT : Eurobasket 2025 - Türkiye and Greece in the Final 4 

Post#1856 » by Foliohattu » Wed Sep 10, 2025 3:27 pm

Great first half ---> terrible second half
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Re: OT : Eurobasket 2025 - Türkiye and Greece in the Final 4 

Post#1857 » by Foliohattu » Wed Sep 10, 2025 3:29 pm

Not sure I like the technical + flagrant leading to ejection rule, don't want the game to be decided by this.
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Re: OT : Eurobasket 2025 - Türkiye and Greece in the Final 4 

Post#1858 » by Mirotic12 » Wed Sep 10, 2025 3:30 pm

LuDux1 wrote:krepsinis.net does yearly Top-50 Best Lithuanian Players list. Basically every second star from 24/25 list was absent
2 Valančiūnas
4 Jokubaitis
5 Sedekerskis
7 Sirvydis
10 R.Giedraitis
11 Radzevičius
13 Birutis
15 Tubelis
17 Blaževičius
21 Normantas
31 Velička
48 Sargiūnas


Where did they rank Kariniauskas?
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Re: OT : Eurobasket 2025 - Türkiye and Greece in the Final 4 

Post#1859 » by Mirotic12 » Wed Sep 10, 2025 3:34 pm

peZt wrote:Man it’s soooo refreshing watching fiba ball. 40 minutes and it’s already half time. In the nba we’d already have had 10 additional timeouts, ads and constant interruptions and breaks

Put nba talent under fiba rules and I guarantee you NBA ratings go up by 50% in 10 years


But according to the NBA, NBA Europe with the same in game product as the NBA, would be "significantly more popular with the fans in Europe."
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Re: OT : Eurobasket 2025 - Türkiye and Greece in the Final 4 

Post#1860 » by TonySnellJr » Wed Sep 10, 2025 3:35 pm

Wow these refs look at that play from one angle and determine it's not unsportsmanlike? It was a blatant elbow. Disgusting reffing.

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