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Post#1261 » by og15 » Yesterday 7:06 pm

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He's just saying they won't go on speculation alone, or public opinion, which yea, for sure, but also says they aren't the court and that means they also don't need that level of proof, it's about the whole picture.
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Post#1262 » by G R E Y » Yesterday 7:41 pm

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He's just saying they won't go on speculation alone, or public opinion, which yea, for sure, but also says they aren't the court and that means they also don't need that level of proof, it's about the whole picture.

Yeah and it's not even the full quote. Before this, Silver said he hadn't heard of Aspiration or the endorsement deal, but after NBA general counsel spoke with Ballmer, "... we quickly concluded this was something that rose to the level that necessitates an investigation."

This was a balanced, impartial response for anyone wanting blood or exoneration in this presser.

But make of the league's actions what you will:

* Spoke with Ballmer

* Hired previously used prominent law firm

* Quickly opened an investigation
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Post#1264 » by kobe_vs_jordan » Yesterday 7:58 pm

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Surprising. Whole league needs an investigation at this point lol what's the off the market salary cap for each team
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Post#1265 » by PushDaRock » Yesterday 8:03 pm

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He's just saying they won't go on speculation alone, or public opinion, which yea, for sure, but also says they aren't the court and that means they also don't need that level of proof, it's about the whole picture.


People are reading into the body language and tone. He doesn't appear angry or stern and no mention of the accusation being a "cardinal sin". Just appears to be that he's tempering expectations in terms of what people can expect to come from this.
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Post#1266 » by ciueli » Yesterday 8:06 pm

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Surprising. Whole league needs an investigation at this point lol what's the off the market salary cap for each team


Not surprising at all, Ballmer already got an easy interview from ESPN, they are definitely on his side with the whole "nothing to see here, kids!" take they are spewing. They are heavily invested in the NBA and need this story to go away to protect their investment, they are not unbiased in this.
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Post#1267 » by ___Rand___ » Yesterday 8:20 pm

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Here's the full segment from that clip: the whole dribble of BS from ESPN being Ballmer and Kawhi's PAID PR firm. "oh this was nothing, there's nothing to see. Kawhi wasn't responsible. Kawhi doesn't know anything. We're not expecting any penalties." It's like the whole segment was written by Clippers' PR firm. And I am sure Ballmer has retained a few!!!

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Post#1268 » by ___Rand___ » Yesterday 8:24 pm

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He's just saying they won't go on speculation alone, or public opinion, which yea, for sure, but also says they aren't the court and that means they also don't need that level of proof, it's about the whole picture.


People are reading into the body language and tone. He doesn't appear angry or stern and no mention of the accusation being a "cardinal sin". Just appears to be that he's tempering expectations in terms of what people can expect to come from this.


Yeah Ballmer's got him and the league by the balls and they are going to get away with this. What else is new! "I'm rich! I can get away with murder! Grab them by the p___!"
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Post#1269 » by Mephariel » Yesterday 9:31 pm

None of this is surprising to me. I don't know if anyone here has been a manager or supervisor. You can't fire an employee without an investigation with all the evidence intact.

The idea that Silver will promptly hand out punishment without a thorough fact finding investigation is not reality. The idea that there will be no legal repercussions if they get this wrong is also not reality.
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Post#1270 » by wolfv » Yesterday 9:54 pm

It's amazing just how badly this ended up for the Clippers. I don't blame them because at the time it all made sense. But losing Shai for this nonsense? That must suck.

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Post#1271 » by og15 » Yesterday 11:44 pm

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walk with me wrote:
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He's just saying they won't go on speculation alone, or public opinion, which yea, for sure, but also says they aren't the court and that means they also don't need that level of proof, it's about the whole picture.


People are reading into the body language and tone. He doesn't appear angry or stern and no mention of the accusation being a "cardinal sin". Just appears to be that he's tempering expectations in terms of what people can expect to come from this.

Yea, I could see that.

I realize from previous discussions with people that many are not aware of the fact that the commissioner works for the owners and can be removed by the owners. Many do think that the commissioner can just do whatever they want.

So, sure,.I can see the reality that Silver can't put himself in a position where a precedent is set for handing out punishment based on the court of public opinion, speculation, etc, so he has to be measured understanding that they need the data to make a decision.
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Post#1272 » by Roscoe Sheed » Yesterday 11:56 pm

wolfv wrote:It's amazing just how badly this ended up for the Clippers. I don't blame them because at the time it all made sense. But losing Shai for this nonsense? That must suck.

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it has turned out badly overall, but hopefully it isn't totally finished as they have actually assembled a very solid roster. Unlikely to be true title contenders, but a starting line up of Harden, Beal, Zubac, Kawhi, and Collins is a very good with a bench of CP3, Dunn, Bogdan, Lopez, and Jones- very talented and deep, although very old
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Post#1273 » by 316Hornets » Today 5:59 am

Kawhi's contract HAS to be voided right? Even if this payment was made from his previous contract, there is no way to be certain there is no connection.
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Post#1274 » by TheAlchemist » Today 6:10 am

Surprise surprise, a league that let Luca Doncic get traded to the Lakers for the PooPoo Platter Dallas got.

Then to reward Dallas the 1st overall pick.

And they’re gonna discipline Steve Balmer lolololl. Yeah okay.

The NBA is the most epically corrupt national sports league in our modern day.

Why even be a fan when this crap goes on?
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Post#1275 » by Sixers in 4 » Today 6:22 am

The burden of proof is not on the NBA that is a made-up standard by Silver and should demonstrate he has zero intention of taking the issue seriously at all. The CBA actually explicitly outlined the implied guilt of deals such as this one.

Pack it up because when a prosecutor hands rights to a defendant that are completely voluntary and unnecessary, what are the chances they intend to actually prosecute the crime? Silver statements said it all. He is looking for a smoking gun just so he can say there wasn't one.

Doesn't mean Ballmer isn't guilty; he's guilty as sin. It just means the NBA has zero intention of actually punishing him
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Post#1276 » by JustLucky » Today 10:15 am

lol watching the new video torro video now. the clippers are cooked
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Post#1277 » by Dr Aki » Today 10:24 am



Guys watch from 22:00, the first 20 minutes or so is just recapping everything that's come out over the last week

Dennis J Wong owns 1% of the Clippers (Ballmer is the other 99%) is the Vice-chairman (and alternate governor) of the Clippers, uses his own money from his own company DEA 88 Investments LP, to pay Aspirations, 9 days before a payment goes back out to Kawhi's KL2 Aspire LLC, at a time when noone else at Aspirations is getting paid, and layoffs are happening.

Dennis J Wong is also Steve Ballmer's college roommate at Harvard in 1975. Wong's daughter also was a project manager at Aspirations.

OOHHHHHH F*************
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Post#1278 » by Zeno » Today 10:43 am

Wong is going to be the fall guy but if Balmer isn’t suspended too this is disgraceful.
When will we just change the name of 25 of the 30 teams to the Washington Generals?

Please advise….

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Post#1279 » by JustLucky » Today 10:51 am

Dr Aki wrote:

Guys watch from 22:00, the first 20 minutes or so is just recapping everything that's come out over the last week

Dennis J Wong owns 1% of the Clippers (Ballmer is the other 99%) is the Vice-chairman of the Clippers, uses his own money from his own company DEA 88 Investments LP, to pay Aspirations, 9 days before a payment goes back out to Kawhi's KL2 Aspire LLC, at a time when noone else at Aspirations is getting paid, and layoffs are happening.

Dennis J Wong is also Steve Ballmer's college roommate at Harvard in 1975. Wong's daughter also was a project manager at Aspirations.

OOHHHHHH F*************


you forgot to mention dennis wongs 2 million wire was an "investment" His daughter was a high ranking manager of the company and had to have known they were bankrupt. There is no world where dennis wong did not know this was a bad investment but sent them 2 million the week kawhi was paid (the same week they laid off 20% of their employees because they had no money to pay them)
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Post#1280 » by brutalitops » Today 10:52 am

Dr Aki wrote:

Guys watch from 22:00, the first 20 minutes or so is just recapping everything that's come out over the last week

Dennis J Wong owns 1% of the Clippers (Ballmer is the other 99%) is the Vice-chairman (and alternate governor) of the Clippers, uses his own money from his own company DEA 88 Investments LP, to pay Aspirations, 9 days before a payment goes back out to Kawhi's KL2 Aspire LLC, at a time when noone else at Aspirations is getting paid, and layoffs are happening.

Dennis J Wong is also Steve Ballmer's college roommate at Harvard in 1975. Wong's daughter also was a project manager at Aspirations.

OOHHHHHH F*************


Sir. Another Pablo video has hit the clippers.

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