Could Wemby stop or slow down Shaq on defense? 1on1 force him to pass etc?
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How are you going to slow down Shaq when you're sitting on the bench with foul trouble?
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no way. not with this body. no human on earth can stop a raging prime shaq that attacks the rim without fouling. he might get a couple blocks tho. i dont believe it.
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SlimShady83 wrote:B4 heading off to sleep Aussie time, here is youtube of Rodaman shutting off Shaq, surely Wemby could do same at least for some spurts?
That's not a 1on1 defence, Rodman was getting a lot of help here, every time Shaq started a move in the low post another Chicago player came to double, sometimes the double came even earlier. Rodman did his part in the team defence really well but if that's what is asked of Wemby, he can do it.
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Hell no people forget Shaq was 7'1 and a legit 330+ lbs closer to 350 he would bully Wemby. Shaq would probably have 20/10 by half time
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It would be interesting to know what kind of lob pass would work to feed Shaq...
Knowing generally a match up is on both ends. If Victor struggle against big and strong bigs, i would like to know what kind of bigs could defend him on the perimeter.
Anyway, it's purely theorical as both team staff would probably switch them to avoid a bad match up (on each end of the court).
Knowing generally a match up is on both ends. If Victor struggle against big and strong bigs, i would like to know what kind of bigs could defend him on the perimeter.
Anyway, it's purely theorical as both team staff would probably switch them to avoid a bad match up (on each end of the court).
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No not a chance. Shaq would make easy work of him. Wemby is way too skinny.
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Depends on era. Once upon a time you couldn't just shove defenders out of the way.
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Wembanyama has no chance of denying Shaq getting into position, and once Shaq got the ball it would be over.
The only chance for Wemby would be positioning himself between the passer and Shaq, trying to deny Shaq getting the ball with his extreme length. Other than that he would need more help from his teammates to defend Shaq.
So 1on1 not much of a chance to stop or even slow down Shaq much, but there's another side: Best scenario would be to tire Shaq out as he would have difficulties of defending Wemby as well. Chasing big men on the perimeter wasn't Shaq's forte...
The only chance for Wemby would be positioning himself between the passer and Shaq, trying to deny Shaq getting the ball with his extreme length. Other than that he would need more help from his teammates to defend Shaq.
So 1on1 not much of a chance to stop or even slow down Shaq much, but there's another side: Best scenario would be to tire Shaq out as he would have difficulties of defending Wemby as well. Chasing big men on the perimeter wasn't Shaq's forte...
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70sFan wrote:I think some people overstate how Shaq would break Wemby in half. Wemby would definitely make a few defensive plays that would surprise Shaq, given his length and recovery time.
Over the whole game, Wemby wouldn't be strong enough to fight for inside positions with Shaq all the time. He'd get pushed around and end up in very uncomfortable positions. He wouldn't be able to consistently box him out on the boards, which is one of the most underrated aspects of Shaq's offensive game.
I don't think I agree that you want someone shorter than Shaq to defend him by the way. It gives you a decent chance to avoid being pushed around if your guy is strong and has low center of gravity, but that would make you more vulnerable to all the off-ball work. Shorter guy can't front Shaq successfully, can't guard lob passes and Shaq can easily rise over them for hooks and turnarounds. In perfect scenario, you need someone long with strong base, that's the best way to defend Shaq. Duncan did a very good job and of course Yao had plenty of success against older Shaq. Historically, guys like Gilmore and Wilt would be the perfect choices for that.
Wemby wouldn't last one quarter. Shaq lived to punish big men on defense and a guy like Wemby with his clout Shaq would actually try as opposed to his typical.
It would have been in the hard-to-watch category other than bringing out the peak Shaq had to dish out.
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Shaq would make it a point to go through his chest. He's still too light in the cakes for that type of low post activity.
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What does 1v1 mean, exactly?
Where and how is Shaq getting the ball?
How is Wemby defending him, can he front counting on the help behind?
Nowadays you're not playing 1v1 in the post if you don't have the handle to get there without having it stripped, and the vision to punish any kind of help or stunt, keeping the defense honest.
Moreover, even in his prime, Shaq was not overpowering his defender and dunking every time. He was still taking a good 40% of his shots from floater range. Wemby would make them an absolute nightmare, ever more than the way Yao did.
Where and how is Shaq getting the ball?
How is Wemby defending him, can he front counting on the help behind?
Nowadays you're not playing 1v1 in the post if you don't have the handle to get there without having it stripped, and the vision to punish any kind of help or stunt, keeping the defense honest.
Moreover, even in his prime, Shaq was not overpowering his defender and dunking every time. He was still taking a good 40% of his shots from floater range. Wemby would make them an absolute nightmare, ever more than the way Yao did.
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Masigond wrote:Wembanyama has no chance of denying Shaq getting into position, and once Shaq got the ball it would be over.
The only chance for Wemby would be positioning himself between the passer and Shaq, trying to deny Shaq getting the ball with his extreme length. Other than that he would need more help from his teammates to defend Shaq.
So 1on1 not much of a chance to stop or even slow down Shaq much, but there's another side: Best scenario would be to tire Shaq out as he would have difficulties of defending Wemby as well. Chasing big men on the perimeter wasn't Shaq's forte...
Actually, that's exactly what Wemby would can could do. He'd be seriously challenging to deal with if he fronted Shaq. Which you then went right back to lol.
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dhsilv2 wrote:Masigond wrote:Wembanyama has no chance of denying Shaq getting into position, and once Shaq got the ball it would be over.
The only chance for Wemby would be positioning himself between the passer and Shaq, trying to deny Shaq getting the ball with his extreme length. Other than that he would need more help from his teammates to defend Shaq.
So 1on1 not much of a chance to stop or even slow down Shaq much, but there's another side: Best scenario would be to tire Shaq out as he would have difficulties of defending Wemby as well. Chasing big men on the perimeter wasn't Shaq's forte...
Actually, that's exactly what Wemby would can could do. He'd be seriously challenging to deal with if he fronted Shaq. Which you then went right back to lol.
he has complete inability to prevent shaq from sealing him on a ball reversal and pinning him under the basket where he cant use his length because his arms would go through the rim. Length did not bother shaquille oneil. Mutombo, mark eaton, yao ming. They all have better tools to defend shaq than wemby. his ability to seal, palm the ball, and apply violent physicality is only going to be mitigated by preventing him from getting good positioning. Draymond Green honsetly has a better chance than wemby.
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165bows wrote:70sFan wrote:I think some people overstate how Shaq would break Wemby in half. Wemby would definitely make a few defensive plays that would surprise Shaq, given his length and recovery time.
Over the whole game, Wemby wouldn't be strong enough to fight for inside positions with Shaq all the time. He'd get pushed around and end up in very uncomfortable positions. He wouldn't be able to consistently box him out on the boards, which is one of the most underrated aspects of Shaq's offensive game.
I don't think I agree that you want someone shorter than Shaq to defend him by the way. It gives you a decent chance to avoid being pushed around if your guy is strong and has low center of gravity, but that would make you more vulnerable to all the off-ball work. Shorter guy can't front Shaq successfully, can't guard lob passes and Shaq can easily rise over them for hooks and turnarounds. In perfect scenario, you need someone long with strong base, that's the best way to defend Shaq. Duncan did a very good job and of course Yao had plenty of success against older Shaq. Historically, guys like Gilmore and Wilt would be the perfect choices for that.
Wemby wouldn't last one quarter. Shaq lived to punish big men on defense and a guy like Wemby with his clout Shaq would actually try as opposed to his typical.
It would have been in the hard-to-watch category other than bringing out the peak Shaq had to dish out.
Plenty of worse and weaker bigs survived more than that. It's mythologizing Shaq to the ridiculous degree that always happen when people talk about him. Fans don't realize that Shaq actually didn't push around and dunk on guys on every possession...
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Ryoga Hibiki wrote:Moreover, even in his prime, Shaq was not overpowering his defender and dunking every time. He was still taking a good 40% of his shots from floater range.
100% agree, it looks like people don't remember or never watched full Shaq games.
Wemby would make them an absolute nightmare, ever more than the way Yao did.
Yao didn't bother Shaq only because of length.Yao has so much more of a lower body strength than Wemby that I don't find that comparison useful at all.
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Yeah, I don't think Wemby would be a Shaq stopper per se, but he would definitely force some troubles on him due to his size and Shaq operating on low post mainly. You won't dunk on 7'3' guy with amazing shotblocking timing on every possession. Also, starting your possession against someone so lengthy on low post isn't that easy task.
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wemby would need to become the best flopper the league has ever seen.
screw these absolute garbage refs
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Lockdown504090 wrote:dhsilv2 wrote:Masigond wrote:Wembanyama has no chance of denying Shaq getting into position, and once Shaq got the ball it would be over.
The only chance for Wemby would be positioning himself between the passer and Shaq, trying to deny Shaq getting the ball with his extreme length. Other than that he would need more help from his teammates to defend Shaq.
So 1on1 not much of a chance to stop or even slow down Shaq much, but there's another side: Best scenario would be to tire Shaq out as he would have difficulties of defending Wemby as well. Chasing big men on the perimeter wasn't Shaq's forte...
Actually, that's exactly what Wemby would can could do. He'd be seriously challenging to deal with if he fronted Shaq. Which you then went right back to lol.
he has complete inability to prevent shaq from sealing him on a ball reversal and pinning him under the basket where he cant use his length because his arms would go through the rim. Length did not bother shaquille oneil. Mutombo, mark eaton, yao ming. They all have better tools to defend shaq than wemby. his ability to seal, palm the ball, and apply violent physicality is only going to be mitigated by preventing him from getting good positioning. Draymond Green honsetly has a better chance than wemby.
That's great if you can get him the ball off a seal. Wemby isn't a normal guy you seal. And if shaq goes to that, you get help. But the reality is fronting shaq did work, a lot.
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Wemby would get injured within two plays with his current frame if he tried to guard Shaq
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MrGoat wrote:Wemby would get injured within two plays with his current frame if he tried to guard Shaq
Are we thinking about some Shaq video game?





