NewEra wrote:mpharris36 wrote:NewEra wrote:Hezi brought up something I’ve been wondering about. The whole “the sim is a year behind” thing. People have said it for years, but where did that actually come from, and is it proven?
Take Dyson Daniels for example: when the ratings drop for this upcoming season 9 of BaF, are they based on his 2023-24 stats or on this past season (2024-25), when he won Most Improved Player? If it’s always a year behind, then his breakout year wouldn’t be factored in yet.
I’m just trying to get clarity on what “a year behind” really means, how we know it, and whether it’s actually confirmed.
I think the "a year behind" comes from if a player breaks out early in the season and he becomes a major piece you don't reap that reward until the following year the SIM comes out because there are no in-season updates. Now the SIM seems to have rankings/potential so it does its own in season evaluation I think but based in our SIM and not real life.
For example.
Knecht might be a tough play for you this year but lets say he has a major breakout this year and is playing a 20 ppg level over 40% 3 shooting. Your not going to get any of that production in real time in our Season 9...you would have to wait until the following year to see the ratings jump.
Thanks for the clarification! Has Wolverine Studios ever addressed this? I’m wondering if there are still no in-season evaluations based on real life, or if that’s changed since we first started. Maybe updates are now released during the season, but I’m not sure how that might affect Bish’s system since I don’t fully understand how it works. It just seems like having real life updates throughout the season would make things feel much more realistic.
Its just the way its always been. Once Bish takes the last update and creates the league I don't think it allows for any outside updates. Basically if your team and player play well in the SIM I think they improve. But any IRL production throughout the year for a player just can't get captured.
It goes two fold as well. What if you invested a lot for a player that was a great fit for your team to start the year. But he was in a bad situation IRL. Would you want an in season update that hurt his value to your team either even if he was playing well in the SIM for your team?
Since our SIM starts about a month behind the real NBA season I think (Bish can correct me) but he takes the last available update that will capture a few big sifts if someone comes out of nowhere and becomes a star IRL. I think that happened to SGA one year where he got off to that great start and then a 4 star went to 5 star update or I remember someone saying something to that effect.
I think its as reasonable as we can expect and I believe at least we are all on the same playing field with knowing how that impacts the SIM vs IRL.
) I'd like to know whether you'd support the rule either as presented or with modifications (possibly including one or more of the options below.) If something seems viable, I will submit a proposal at the end of the 2025-26 season.
