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Political Roundtable Part XXXIV

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Re: Political Roundtable Part XXXIV 

Post#1421 » by AFM » Fri Sep 12, 2025 6:18 pm

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AFM wrote:Patel ended the news conference by saying "I'll see you in Valhalla". Do I really have to say what's on my mind right now or do you fellas got it


Insane.

Although, I don’t think Patel is read or educated enough to know that the Nazi‘s co-opted and heavily borrowed from Norse mythology.. or is he?

Absolute clown show.

Declarations of war and invoking a fight to death is crazy coming from the head of the FBI.

These lunatics are unhinged.

All this while the mainstream media is kowtowing to the GOP and treating Kirk like the second coming of JFK.

HOW ON EARTH ARE THEY ALL MISSING THE POINT THAT NOT ALL POLITICAL SPEECH IS JUST THAT?


Nah it’s common conservative warrior ethos to say sht like that. Like Pete Hegseth is always saying cringe. See you in Valhalla. Maybe he just watched Mad Max Fury Road.

Patel for sure has never opened a book. Might be the dumbest guy in America and that’s saying something.
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Re: Political Roundtable Part XXXIV 

Post#1422 » by Zonkerbl » Fri Sep 12, 2025 7:16 pm

Indications are that kirk's shooter, who is white and comes from a gun loving maga family, may have been a right winger. Calls for blood on the right have suddenly gotten very quiet.

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Re: Political Roundtable Part XXXIV 

Post#1423 » by queridiculo » Fri Sep 12, 2025 7:58 pm

Zonkerbl wrote:Indications are that kirk's shooter, who is white and comes from a gun loving maga family, may have been a right winger. Calls for blood on the right have suddenly gotten very quiet.

Thank God if true


Well, I don't think it really matters what the shooters background is.

The minds are already made up either way and when you have a large percentage of people believe in non-sense like Pizzagate, you can rest assured that anything that contradicts their beliefs will be accepted as the truth.

My hope is that the GOPs rhetoric following the shooting is going to have the moderate right leaning folks recognize how many lunatics they have aligned themselves with.
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Re: Political Roundtable Part XXXIV 

Post#1424 » by AFM » Fri Sep 12, 2025 8:13 pm

Zonkerbl wrote:Indications are that kirk's shooter, who is white and comes from a gun loving maga family, may have been a right winger. Calls for blood on the right have suddenly gotten very quiet.

Thank God if true


I'm pretty sure the guy who wrote anti fascist memes and ciao bello on his rounds, then shot THE prominent right wing pundit of our time, is not a right winger. Like wtf.

https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/live/2025/sep/12/charlie-kirk-shooter-suspect-latest-news-updates-donald-trump-utah

In a phone interview on Friday, one of Tyler Robinson’s high school friends, who asked to remain anonymous, said that the suspect was “pretty left on everything” and was “the only member of his family that was really leftist”.

“The rest of his family was very hard Republican,” the friend said.

Around sophomore year, the friend said, Robinson became more extreme in his political views and would “always just be ranting and arguing about them”.


Also just seems like common sense...
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Re: Political Roundtable Part XXXIV 

Post#1425 » by closg00 » Fri Sep 12, 2025 8:17 pm

Zonkerbl wrote:Indications are that kirk's shooter, who is white and comes from a gun loving maga family, may have been a right winger. Calls for blood on the right have suddenly gotten very quiet.

Thank God if true


Pure conjecture:
1. Closeted gay/trans person living a tortured life in Utah.
2. Black sheep who rebelled against his conservative upbringing and community to the extreme, it happens.
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Re: Political Roundtable Part XXXIV 

Post#1426 » by doclinkin » Fri Sep 12, 2025 8:26 pm

Ok. I don't doubt the evidence, footage, reports on the engravings on the casings, etc. Kid raised by a family that taught him to shoot. Radicalized by events and our current political climate. Takes on role as another Luigi. The more that peoples' voices are quashed and the less their votes and opinions matter, the less I'm startled when one takes up arms instead of hashtags and online complaints. Not a good thing. Just not entirely a surprise. Ironically Charlie Kirk was right that this is a byproduct of a free and un-'regulated' 2nd amendment.

It would be even more ironic if this sort of thing was what kicked into motion some common sense laws on firearms. Though here it would not have mattered. Single shot with a long gun, bolt action not extended magazine or auto fire. And probably he didn't have to buy the rifle, it was in the family, so background checks wouldn't catch it.
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Re: Political Roundtable Part XXXIV 

Post#1427 » by AFM » Fri Sep 12, 2025 9:10 pm

Zonk of course is right that there’s a chance for a RW retaliation shooting. I still have my Zonk Was Right About Everything hat somewhere

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Re: Political Roundtable Part XXXIV 

Post#1428 » by Kanyewest » Fri Sep 12, 2025 9:22 pm

My chats and reddit comments seem to think he is a Groyper (which is a meme edgelords that follow Nick Fuentes) - Bella Ciao is from the 'Groyper War' playlist. Helldrivers 2 is a super popular video game amongst the far right right community where the other quote is from.

Groypers have a long standing feud with Charlie Kirk and the TPUSA Community.

Fuentes has disavowed the shooter.
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Post#1429 » by AFM » Fri Sep 12, 2025 9:25 pm

Of course Reddit thinks so lol. They are desperate to paint him as a right winger, it’s this fun game we do in America every time there’s a shooting. But as I posted, the people who knew him IRL say he was liberal. Parents were republican. Classic rebelling against parents/environment scenario
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Re: Political Roundtable Part XXXIV 

Post#1430 » by doclinkin » Fri Sep 12, 2025 9:27 pm

AFM wrote:Zonk of course is right that there’s a chance for a RW retaliation shooting.


There’s a likelihood really. To hear the RW tell it theyre actively looking for an incident to touch off a civil war. An excuse to join in. I think the only thing forestalling it is that they’re in charge and get vicarious jollies over the aggressive and cruel actions of the administration. That and many have now joined ICE so they can do so in an official capacity. I think the greatest risk would be if the Dems take the house and the GOP get to play the aggrieved party again. Blame is what they’re good at. They suck at actual governance.
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Re: Political Roundtable Part XXXIV 

Post#1431 » by AFM » Fri Sep 12, 2025 9:28 pm

RWers for example were really hoping it was this trans person. Honestly Americans are sick in the head
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Re: Political Roundtable Part XXXIV 

Post#1432 » by doclinkin » Fri Sep 12, 2025 9:29 pm

AFM wrote:RWers for example were really hoping it was this trans person. Honestly Americans are sick in the head


Or anyone other than a white kid from a MAGA household. The best would have been if he hadn’t been caught so quick of at all. Then he could have been a phantom of whatever kind they most felt like demonizing.
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Re: Political Roundtable Part XXXIV 

Post#1433 » by AFM » Fri Sep 12, 2025 9:33 pm

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AFM wrote:RWers for example were really hoping it was this trans person. Honestly Americans are sick in the head


Or anyone other than a white kid from a MAGA household. The best would have been if he hadn’t been caught so quick of at all. Then he could have been a phantom of whatever kind they most felt like demonizing.



Yes but there was a trans kid from Utah who made a song on SoundCloud called “Charlie Kirk Dies At 31”. From before the shooting. Which ends up being a giant coincidence. Like what are the odds of that. Reality is always more ridiculous than fiction.
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Re: Political Roundtable Part XXXIV 

Post#1434 » by The Consiglieri » Fri Sep 12, 2025 9:39 pm

Zonkerbl wrote:Republicans saying "Yay we can go full Nazi now"

https://www.ft.com/content/e76c9b1f-7157-4bcd-9aa2-a535f3f1ed62

“Charlie Kirk being assassinated is the American Reichstag fire,” said Matt Forney, a rightwing writer and blogger. He said Democratic politicians should be arrested and the party banned. “It is time for a complete crackdown on the left.”


Such an odd and historically ignorant statement. If that's his intentional statement, he's suggesting a right-wing fanatic killed Kirk as a false flag operation to justify going after liberals, lol, as Hitler and his goons did with the Reichstag fire. Historically illiterate to the core. The sliver thin depth of history these idiots grasp is truly dangerous to them and the rest of us.
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Re: Political Roundtable Part XXXIV 

Post#1435 » by The Consiglieri » Fri Sep 12, 2025 9:46 pm

queridiculo wrote:
AFM wrote:Patel ended the news conference by saying "I'll see you in Valhalla". Do I really have to say what's on my mind right now or do you fellas got it


Insane.

Although, I don’t think Patel is read or educated enough to know that the Nazi‘s co-opted and heavily borrowed from Norse mythology.. or is he?

Absolute clown show.

Declarations of war and invoking a fight to death is crazy coming from the head of the FBI.

These lunatics are unhinged.

All this while the mainstream media is kowtowing to the GOP and treating Kirk like the second coming of JFK.

HOW ON EARTH ARE THEY ALL MISSING THE POINT THAT NOT ALL POLITICAL SPEECH IS JUST THAT?


Ezra is definitely going to be eating a gigantic ---- sandwich of condemnation from the left for the rest of his career for that utterly asinine op ed he wrote for the Times. One gets the sense that he didn't do remotely enough leg work to realize what Kirk really believed, said, and how he actually behaved. You don't have to white wash the fact that he was a vile little monster, in order to condemn the murder, or violence as a way to silence speech. Condemn the act as should anyone, but don't sanctify the cretin in the process.
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Re: Political Roundtable Part XXXIV 

Post#1436 » by Kanyewest » Fri Sep 12, 2025 9:47 pm

AFM wrote:Of course Reddit thinks so lol. They are desperate to paint him as a right winger, it’s this fun game we do in America every time there’s a shooting. But as I posted, the people who knew him IRL say he was liberal. Parents were republican. Classic rebelling against parents/environment scenario


Yeah maybe this tweet comes from the left although my friend who shared it is more right that shared it with me

Read on Twitter


Also another friend, who is a friend of a friend of Charlie Kirk also thinks that the kids is Groyper.

My other friend who is more left is saying that the entire family is MAGA.

It will be interesting to hear the New York Times/Wall Street Journal breakdown (although the Wall Street journal already got criticism for misreporting the story).
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Re: Political Roundtable Part XXXIV 

Post#1437 » by The Consiglieri » Fri Sep 12, 2025 9:48 pm

Zonkerbl wrote:Indications are that kirk's shooter, who is white and comes from a gun loving maga family, may have been a right winger. Calls for blood on the right have suddenly gotten very quiet.

Thank God if true


Nah, they're just going to redress their delusional bull---- in the guise that the one semester at university and online gaming turned him into a pinko, lefty, trans monster. They never let facts get in the way of their histrionics/story, not the individuals, nor their Fox Pravda Brain Washing machine.
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Re: Political Roundtable Part XXXIV 

Post#1438 » by The Consiglieri » Fri Sep 12, 2025 9:51 pm

AFM wrote:RWers for example were really hoping it was this trans person. Honestly Americans are sick in the head


Apparently, they mistook the T R N on the bullets, for a pro trans stance, when it was a location stamp, which is just, there are no words, if that story is true, about the degree of stupidity that they want to flood the media with.
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Re: Political Roundtable Part XXXIV 

Post#1439 » by AFM » Fri Sep 12, 2025 9:54 pm

The one thing we can all agree on is that he was probably a Utah Jazz fan
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Re: Political Roundtable Part XXXIV 

Post#1440 » by AFM » Fri Sep 12, 2025 10:03 pm

Kanyewest wrote:
AFM wrote:Of course Reddit thinks so lol. They are desperate to paint him as a right winger, it’s this fun game we do in America every time there’s a shooting. But as I posted, the people who knew him IRL say he was liberal. Parents were republican. Classic rebelling against parents/environment scenario


Yeah maybe this tweet comes from the left although my friend who shared it is more right that shared it with me

Read on Twitter


Also another friend, who is a friend of a friend of Charlie Kirk also thinks that the kids is Groyper.

My other friend who is more left is saying that the entire family is MAGA.

It will be interesting to hear the New York Times/Wall Street Journal breakdown (although the Wall Street journal already got criticism for misreporting the story).



I spend too much time online so I can clear this up a little. Fuentes and Kirk didn't like each other because Fuentes is openly a fascist and a white nationalist and thought Kirk was a gatekeeper, and part of the establishment. Regardless of whatever's been said about Kirk, Fuentes is far to the right of him and that is where their differences lied. The idea that a Fuentes follower would write a bunch of antifascist memes on ammunition and shoot Kirk makes zero sense.


Anyway I think that is enough internet for me today. Can only watch videos of a young guys neck explode so many times, or people being gleeful about it, or people threatening vengeance so much. I am off to make a giant pot of adas polo.

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