Eurobasket 2025 Dominant era, GERMANY are World AND European CHAMPIONS!

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Who will be crowned new European champions?

Poll ended at Mon Sep 15, 2025 8:31 am

Germany
37
49%
Finland
1
1%
Türkiye
32
43%
Greece
5
7%
 
Total votes: 75

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Post#301 » by Felixians4 » Sun Sep 14, 2025 9:51 pm

peZt wrote:
schnakenpopanz wrote:The sad fact that this might be the only chance for Sengün to win with the NT.
He will end like Dirk. Marvelous player but comes up just short with his National Team.


I fear the same but I still have hope for Euro 2029. We will add Biberovic to this team and also Ömer Kutluay.
The only question mark is if we can replace Larkin with an equivalent american PG. Its not great, but the rules allow it so I assume we will try to naturalize another PG after Larkin becomes too old.

This team with Sengün in his prime, Biberovic and Kutluay can only be better.

Biberović is naturalized so you cannot have Biberović and Larkin or some other American guard/wing. Kutluay and Sengun could be faboulous guard/big combo with great experienced role players around with elite coaching, but not so realistic that will be like that so soon plus se should count that France will be 500 percent more dangerous plus Serbia, Lithuania, Spain, Finland, maybe Russia
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Post#302 » by RookieStar » Sun Sep 14, 2025 9:51 pm

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RookieStar wrote:WHAT A GAME!!!

Thats a finals!!!

Hartenstein with way bigger role, but he not playing for Germany


Is that for sure? I thought theres a lot of noise of him playing in the olympics?

Well if not... theres a 7ft Reibe(???) Who you can see if he is any good. GER really needs size. Those 6'9 Theis and Theiman are not enough for the monster bigs in international play
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Post#303 » by LuDux1 » Sun Sep 14, 2025 9:53 pm

-Luke- wrote:I think it was a clean block by the tiniest margin. But how can a referee in the Eurobasket final not know the rules?


Of course, the only reason someone could ask a question is because they don't know the answer. No exceptions
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Post#304 » by KGtabake » Sun Sep 14, 2025 10:02 pm

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That's Giannis. There's no other athletic dude on the roster. :)


Kostas is pretty athletic.

I know Mitoglu and Sloukas didn't have good tournament, but they are still good players, to act that Giannis has like zero help is disingenuous. We saw in todays game, Fins were double teaming two players, Giannis and Sloukas. Sloukas ability to run pick and roll is still a major exclamation mark for anyone who preps to defend Greece.



I said that Sloukas even past his prime, belongs.
I was clear.
Mitoglou isn't elite and he will never be. In his position we had elite players in the past.

That was a mediocre roster at best.
It's a huge accomplishment for the country.

And it's all Giannis. Without him, we wouldn't even be in the final16.
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Post#305 » by doogie_hauser » Sun Sep 14, 2025 10:03 pm

Very happy for Dennis getting his props.
Germany are a very efficient, very well coached machine.
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Post#306 » by lambchop » Sun Sep 14, 2025 10:05 pm

Felixians4 wrote:
peZt wrote:
schnakenpopanz wrote:The sad fact that this might be the only chance for Sengün to win with the NT.
He will end like Dirk. Marvelous player but comes up just short with his National Team.


I fear the same but I still have hope for Euro 2029. We will add Biberovic to this team and also Ömer Kutluay.
The only question mark is if we can replace Larkin with an equivalent american PG. Its not great, but the rules allow it so I assume we will try to naturalize another PG after Larkin becomes too old.

This team with Sengün in his prime, Biberovic and Kutluay can only be better.

Biberović is naturalized so you cannot have Biberović and Larkin or some other American guard/wing. Kutluay and Sengun could be faboulous guard/big combo with great experienced role players around with elite coaching, but not so realistic that will be like that so soon plus se should count that France will be 500 percent more dangerous plus Serbia, Lithuania, Spain, Finland, maybe Russia


Yea Biberovic played for Bosnia as a youth player.

Anyway, YESSSSS!!!! We're a 2020s Euro basketball powerhouse. Happy for our guys for getting gold!
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Post#307 » by KGtabake » Sun Sep 14, 2025 10:07 pm

Congratulations to Germany.
The best 4 year run i can remember from a European national team lately.
Happy for Mumbru.
Wagner is solid. Schroeder clearly is a FIBA player. In Euroleague he would have been consecutive MVP for years.

Great tournament for Turkey. Osman is the best forward in Europe imo.
Ataman is the best coach. That's their best roster ever.

Congratulations to all the teams that participated.
See you all in 4 years, i hope we will all be realgm posters by then :wink:
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Post#308 » by peZt » Sun Sep 14, 2025 10:13 pm

schnakenpopanz wrote:
peZt wrote:
schnakenpopanz wrote:The sad fact that this might be the only chance for Sengün to win with the NT.
He will end like Dirk. Marvelous player but comes up just short with his National Team.


I fear the same but I still have hope for Euro 2029. We will add Biberovic to this team and also Ömer Kutluay.
The only question mark is if we can replace Larkin with an equivalent american PG. Its not great, but the rules allow it so I assume we will try to naturalize another PG after Larkin becomes too old.

This team with Sengün in his prime, Biberovic and Kutluay can only be better.

Since Biberovic is neutralized it is not possible to add another one.


There is hope that Biberovic will get his normal turkish citizenship since he lives in Turkey since age 16 and then wouldnt count as naturalized.
If that doesnt work then yes, we will probably never see him since we need a PG more
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Post#309 » by The4thHorseman » Sun Sep 14, 2025 10:35 pm

Schroder's 4th team this year proved to be a charm
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Post#310 » by RookieStar » Sun Sep 14, 2025 10:43 pm

Well... now that this is over, guess everyone should migrate to the Kawhi saga till the preseason starts. Lol
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Post#311 » by lambchop » Sun Sep 14, 2025 10:46 pm

KGtabake wrote:Congratulations to Germany.
The best 4 year run i can remember from a European national team lately.
Happy for Mumbru.
Wagner is solid. Schroeder clearly is a FIBA player. In Euroleague he would have been consecutive MVP for years.

Great tournament for Turkey. Osman is the best forward in Europe imo.
Ataman is the best coach. That's their best roster ever.

Congratulations to all the teams that participated.
See you all in 4 years, i hope we will all be realgm posters by then :wink:


Yea Schroeder would be unfair in Euroleague. Kind of like a more cerebral Kendrick Nunn with better passing.

I absolutely agree with what you said about Ataman. He absolutely confused the opposing teams' players with his defensive schemes. Dennis looked lost in the 1st half, Giannis struggled etc. His final four experience and ability to surprise opponents in elimination games truly showed in these games. What a legendary coach.

Wagner, despite being awesome, is still a huge "what if", because of how exceptional he could be with a consistent jump shot. I'm still happy we were able to develop a wing player like him.

I think this core still has 2 to 3 more tournaments in them. Dennis and Theis will have somewhat reduced roles compared to now, but Obst, Krämer, Hartenstein, possibly veteran Kleber, Steinbach, Kayil, Andersen, Bonga, Wagner brothers, Da Silva brothers should make up for that.

I don't think our run can be as long and dominant as Spain's, but maybe comparable to the run Greece had with Spanoulis, Diamantidis, Papaloukas etc.
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Post#312 » by lambchop » Sun Sep 14, 2025 10:48 pm

Oh, and someone said it on YouTube that Germany is the first team to go undefeated in both the World Cup and Eurobasket consecutively. Meaning no loss in any of those tournaments.
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Post#313 » by jayu70 » Sun Sep 14, 2025 10:56 pm

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Post#314 » by lambchop » Sun Sep 14, 2025 11:04 pm

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Interesting. I didn't even consider that. But, yea, he probably gets in with his resume of World Cup MVP, Eurobasket MVP, 2024 Olympics "all-star five" akak all tournament team, all that coupled with a solid NBA career should get him in. Plus, he might add more international hardware.

I could also see him getting an NBA ring via a deadline trade or buyout towards the end of his career. However, NBA success isn't predictable at all. Also, if he wants to finish his career in Europe, I'm sure he could still be an excellent player in 3 years time.
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Post#315 » by RookieStar » Sun Sep 14, 2025 11:07 pm

lambchop wrote:
KGtabake wrote:Congratulations to Germany.
The best 4 year run i can remember from a European national team lately.
Happy for Mumbru.
Wagner is solid. Schroeder clearly is a FIBA player. In Euroleague he would have been consecutive MVP for years.

Great tournament for Turkey. Osman is the best forward in Europe imo.
Ataman is the best coach. That's their best roster ever.

Congratulations to all the teams that participated.
See you all in 4 years, i hope we will all be realgm posters by then :wink:


Yea Schroeder would be unfair in Euroleague. Kind of like a more cerebral Kendrick Nunn with better passing.

I absolutely agree with what you said about Ataman. He absolutely confused the opposing teams' players with his defensive schemes. Dennis looked lost in the 1st half, Giannis struggled etc. His final four experience and ability to surprise opponents in elimination games truly showed in these games. What a legendary coach.

Wagner, despite being awesome, is still a huge "what if", because of how exceptional he could be with a consistent jump shot. I'm still happy we were able to develop a wing player like him.

I think this core still has 2 to 3 more tournaments in them. Dennis and Theis will have somewhat reduced roles compared to now, but Obst, Krämer, Hartenstein, possibly veteran Kleber, Steinbach, Kayil, Andersen, Bonga, Wagner brothers, Da Silva brothers should make up for that.

I don't think our run can be as long and dominant as Spain's, but maybe comparable to the run Greece had with Spanoulis, Diamantidis, Papaloukas etc.


Franz has a jumpshot. He even has that Dirk one kick fadeaway thingy. What he doesnt have is a consistent 3pt shot aka above 35%.
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Post#316 » by Taikuri » Sun Sep 14, 2025 11:53 pm

Bob8 wrote:What happened to Lauri? He started as the best scorer of Eurobasket and in last rounds he looks like unplayable.

After the bronze game, Markkanen revealed to known Finnish newspaper that he's been semi injured since the group stage and they've been working really hard with the staff to get him in playing condition.

Let me google translate it for you guys:

– The body has been bad since the group stage, Markkanen said.

– But I don't want to have excuses. You just go with what your body says every day. You'll get quite a few bruises in three weeks. But we did everything we could. A big thank you to the conditioning staff. Countless hours have been spent in the treatment room trying to get the body back in shape.

https://www.is.fi/koripallo/art-2000011493733.html

Pretty well done that Finland was able to do that well with banged up Markkanen, like beating Serbia.
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Post#317 » by Taikuri » Sun Sep 14, 2025 11:59 pm

Hugi Mancura wrote:
knicksfan974 wrote:Finland one shot away from medal. Eventually they fell short but what a tournament, big respect!


They will have a good change to medal in next Euro's. It will be pretty much same team as now. Only that time players would be in their prime, with the exception of Markkanen who would be 32. But every other key player would be under 30. Sure 4 years is a long time, so anything can happen. Hopefully Finland would also have M&M superduo playing in NBA at that time.

Olympic qualifiers and World Championships are before next Euros, so don't have to wait that long (it's 4 years gap now with Eurobaskets). Looking at Finland's qualification group for World's, Finland is one of the favorites to qualify.
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Post#318 » by Taikuri » Mon Sep 15, 2025 12:01 am

UcanUwill wrote:
Hugi Mancura wrote:
knicksfan974 wrote:Finland one shot away from medal. Eventually they fell short but what a tournament, big respect!


They will have a good change to medal in next Euro's. It will be pretty much same team as now. Only that time players would be in their prime, with the exception of Markkanen who would be 32. But every other key player would be under 30. Sure 4 years is a long time, so anything can happen. Hopefully Finland would also have M&M superduo playing in NBA at that time.


Sasu Salin will be old man, and he was still very important to them. But it will interesting to see this Muurinen kid, he looks unbelievable. If FIBA does top 10 plays of the tournament montage, they will probably cheat and put all top Muurinen plays numbers, because otherwise he will have like 6 out of 10 plays...

Top-10 should 5 of Muurinen and 5 of Giannis. Democratical split.
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Post#319 » by Taikuri » Mon Sep 15, 2025 12:02 am

knicksfan974 wrote:
UcanUwill wrote:
Hugi Mancura wrote:
They will have a good change to medal in next Euro's. It will be pretty much same team as now. Only that time players would be in their prime, with the exception of Markkanen who would be 32. But every other key player would be under 30. Sure 4 years is a long time, so anything can happen. Hopefully Finland would also have M&M superduo playing in NBA at that time.


Sasu Salin will be old man, and he was still very important to them. But it will interesting to see this Muurinen kid, he looks unbelievable. If FIBA does top 10 plays of the tournament montage, they will probably cheat and put all top Muurinen plays numbers, because otherwise he will have like 6 out of 10 plays...


My understanding is that Salin is now officially retired from the Finnish national team, so other guys need to step up to take his place in the future.

I'm sorry but that's fake news. In the official post game interview of FIBA Sasu Salin hinted (FIBA's tournament site, where the coach and 1 player speaks after a game) that he will continue at least two more years if coaches see that he's good enough for the team.
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Post#320 » by Masigond » Mon Sep 15, 2025 12:03 am

lambchop wrote:Interesting. I didn't even consider that. But, yea, he probably gets in with his resume of World Cup MVP, Eurobasket MVP, 2024 Olympics "all-star five" akak all tournament team, all that coupled with a solid NBA career should get him in. Plus, he might add more international hardware.

I could also see him getting an NBA ring via a deadline trade or buyout towards the end of his career. However, NBA success isn't predictable at all. Also, if he wants to finish his career in Europe, I'm sure he could still be an excellent player in 3 years time.

Nothing about Schröder's NBA career makes you think that he would be a hall-of-famer. Up to this point, that is. As of now his career trajectory is somewhat like Lou Williams without the actual award for the 6MOY.
So it would be all about the international resume, maybe comparable to Ricky Rubio or Luis Scola. We'll see if either makes it. Individually all of them are hard sells (good players, but never outstanding in the NBA), but their success with their strong national teams is nothing to sniff at.

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