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Post#1681 » by inonba » Tue Sep 16, 2025 4:26 pm

ItsDanger wrote:If you haven't been involved in bankruptcy or receivership, please do not comment on it's intricacies. You don't know what you're talking about. It's definitely not worth the time of those who do know to attempt explaining it either.

Let the facts play out more.


If you haven't been involved in <insert topic>, please do not comment on it's intricacies. You don't know what you're talking about. It's definitely not worth the time of those who do know to attempt explaining it either.

Let the facts play out more.

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Post#1682 » by madmaxmedia » Tue Sep 16, 2025 4:30 pm

ItsDanger wrote:If you haven't been involved in bankruptcy or receivership, please do not comment on it's intricacies. You don't know what you're talking about. It's definitely not worth the time of those who do know to attempt explaining it either.

Let the facts play out more.


I think your comment is valid, there's little point extrapolating too much from small individual data points in what has been revealed so far, and surely more will be revealed. There's a corporate bankruptcy, fraud case, and allegations of NBA cap circumvention all going on at the same time, which is actually pretty crazy.

That being said, in particular I think the Dennis Wong info dump blew any case for plausible deniability on Ballmer's part. I think Ballmer absolutely knew and was either ringleader or participant, and the Clippers are going to be soundly punished for it.I don't know if the intermittent release of information was planned or not, but it is giving Ballmer just enough rope to hang himself with. There's no way he would have gone on ESPN if the Wong information had come out in the initial report by Torre.
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Post#1683 » by inonba » Tue Sep 16, 2025 5:11 pm

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ItsDanger wrote:If you haven't been involved in bankruptcy or receivership, please do not comment on it's intricacies. You don't know what you're talking about. It's definitely not worth the time of those who do know to attempt explaining it either.

Let the facts play out more.


I think your comment is valid, there's little point extrapolating too much from small individual data points in what has been revealed so far, and surely more will be revealed. There's a corporate bankruptcy, fraud case, and allegations of NBA cap circumvention all going on at the same time, which is actually pretty crazy.

That being said, in particular I think the Dennis Wong info dump blew any case for plausible deniability on Ballmer's part. I think Ballmer absolutely knew and was either ringleader or participant, and the Clippers are going to be soundly punished for it.I don't know if the intermittent release of information was planned or not, but it is giving Ballmer just enough rope to hang himself with. There's no way he would have gone on ESPN if the Wong information had come out in the initial report by Torre.


What ItsDanger is saying is invoking Loki's Wager.
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Post#1684 » by Invictus88 » Tue Sep 16, 2025 5:54 pm

ItsDanger wrote:If you haven't been involved in bankruptcy or receivership, please do not comment on it's intricacies. You don't know what you're talking about. It's definitely not worth the time of those who do know to attempt explaining it either.

Let the facts play out more.


There's no quote here so we can't really derive the context that spurred your comment. And without that it's hard to see how anyone would think this was targeted towards them.

Furthermore, you literally took time to make a post in which you are telling people that it's not worth (your?) time responding fully to them.

Weird post.
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Post#1685 » by ryguy613 » Tue Sep 16, 2025 11:20 pm

So... Torres calls out Adam Silver for saying that he'd never heard of Aspiration. Ballmer then goes on to say he didnt make that claim. He only meant that hed never heard of anything fraudulent about them, and of course he knew that they had a deal with the Clippers

https://www.reddit.com/r/nba/comments/1nisxlk/adam_silver_gets_ahead_of_torres_claim_that_he/

Yeah, thats literally a straight up lie. At his press conference he stated he had never heard of the company Aspiration, and he had never heard of any affiliation with the Clippers. Its at the 53 second mark of the below video.

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That makes this situation somehow look even worse! This is becoming embarrassing for the NBA. They are 100% unprepared for Pablo Torres. I dont think Ive ever seen this level of ineptness in the face of reporting before.
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Post#1686 » by John Murdoch » Tue Sep 16, 2025 11:28 pm

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Post#1692 » by levon » Wed Sep 17, 2025 12:36 am

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Cool story bro. Why was Aspiration paying Kawhi? And why did the only other minority owner of the Clippers "invest" after it was known Aspiration was a fraudulent company, after which Kawhi got a payment of that same amount absent Aspiration's laundering fee?
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Post#1693 » by Dino-Might » Wed Sep 17, 2025 1:19 am

I can’t believe Mark Cuban has become that annoying forum poster who doesn’t accept the L and keeps posting and posting pages of drivel, still trying to win the argument.
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Post#1694 » by Scalabrine » Wed Sep 17, 2025 1:25 am

madmaxmedia wrote:
ItsDanger wrote:If you haven't been involved in bankruptcy or receivership, please do not comment on it's intricacies. You don't know what you're talking about. It's definitely not worth the time of those who do know to attempt explaining it either.

Let the facts play out more.


I think your comment is valid, there's little point extrapolating too much from small individual data points in what has been revealed so far, and surely more will be revealed. There's a corporate bankruptcy, fraud case, and allegations of NBA cap circumvention all going on at the same time, which is actually pretty crazy.

That being said, in particular I think the Dennis Wong info dump blew any case for plausible deniability on Ballmer's part. I think Ballmer absolutely knew and was either ringleader or participant, and the Clippers are going to be soundly punished for it.I don't know if the intermittent release of information was planned or not, but it is giving Ballmer just enough rope to hang himself with. There's no way he would have gone on ESPN if the Wong information had come out in the initial report by Torre.


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Post#1695 » by GeorgeSears » Wed Sep 17, 2025 1:27 am

This is getting EMBARRASSING for Adam "the patsy" Silver

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Post#1696 » by mkot » Wed Sep 17, 2025 1:33 am

Now it's about the accusation? :lol:

He changed his answer. Everyone heard him said what he said
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Post#1697 » by ryguy613 » Wed Sep 17, 2025 2:06 am

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Post#1698 » by NY2k1 » Wed Sep 17, 2025 2:09 am

I worry about Pablo Torres. He's mixing himself with some powerful people that will probably try to silence him if he keeps going.
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Post#1699 » by ryguy613 » Wed Sep 17, 2025 2:13 am

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Why did they stop using the original celebs? I dunno maybe because those celebs werent a **** noose around their neck like Kawhi was, being a **** laundering operation. like, what the **** does Cuban think hes actually proving here? Some people go so far into the L territory they think they might dig their way to the other side into the Dub.
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Post#1700 » by madmaxmedia » Wed Sep 17, 2025 2:20 am

Scalabrine wrote:
madmaxmedia wrote:
ItsDanger wrote:If you haven't been involved in bankruptcy or receivership, please do not comment on it's intricacies. You don't know what you're talking about. It's definitely not worth the time of those who do know to attempt explaining it either.

Let the facts play out more.


I think your comment is valid, there's little point extrapolating too much from small individual data points in what has been revealed so far, and surely more will be revealed. There's a corporate bankruptcy, fraud case, and allegations of NBA cap circumvention all going on at the same time, which is actually pretty crazy.

That being said, in particular I think the Dennis Wong info dump blew any case for plausible deniability on Ballmer's part. I think Ballmer absolutely knew and was either ringleader or participant, and the Clippers are going to be soundly punished for it.I don't know if the intermittent release of information was planned or not, but it is giving Ballmer just enough rope to hang himself with. There's no way he would have gone on ESPN if the Wong information had come out in the initial report by Torre.


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