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Re: 2025 49ers Season 

Post#121 » by Cactus Jack » Tue Sep 16, 2025 7:15 pm

CrimsonCrew wrote:I think Emmanwori can be really good, but defending Kittle in his first NFL game is probably not a recipe for success. Still, feels pretty lucky for the Niners to get out of that one with a win. I'll be very interested to watch Seattle this year. Until Darnold shows he can produce behind the OL, it's hard to see them as a serious SB contender, but they should be right in the playoff mix. And it's not at all certain the Niners are a SB contender, either.

They don't have the offensive firepower to really be a true contender. They lack speed. JSN is their one legit threat. Kupp is more of a 3rd receiver at his age. But the defense will keep them in most games.
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Re: 2025 49ers Season 

Post#122 » by CrimsonCrew » Tue Sep 16, 2025 7:31 pm

Looks like the Cards are crazy thin at CB right now. Never wish injuries on teams, but hopefully it allows the Niners to steal another game. It would be huge if they could win this one with Mac and then get Robinson and Purdy back before the Rams game.
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Re: 2025 49ers Season 

Post#123 » by Pattersonca65 » Wed Sep 17, 2025 6:52 pm

Bartch to injured reserve
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Re: 2025 49ers Season 

Post#124 » by CrimsonCrew » Wed Sep 17, 2025 7:03 pm

Pattersonca65 wrote:Bartch to injured reserve


Dude literally has more injuries than completed games. This one was tough; Brendel actually pancaked his guy (!!!) into the back of Bartch. But he's been injured in literally every game he's played. Colby looked pretty good from what I saw. Hopefully he can keep it up.
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Re: 2025 49ers Season 

Post#125 » by Pattersonca65 » Wed Sep 17, 2025 7:52 pm

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Pattersonca65 wrote:Bartch to injured reserve


Dude literally has more injuries than completed games. This one was tough; Brendel actually pancaked his guy (!!!) into the back of Bartch. But he's been injured in literally every game he's played. Colby looked pretty good from what I saw. Hopefully he can keep it up.

He couldnt even get through a training camp or offseason workout without getting injured. He makes Eliajh Mitchell look durable
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Re: 2025 49ers Season 

Post#126 » by arich35 » Wed Sep 17, 2025 7:55 pm

I am fine with Colby taking over and hopefully securing that spot for the future. This draft class has a chance to be pretty damn good with Stout, Sigle and Colby being later round picks as starters already
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Re: 2025 49ers Season 

Post#127 » by CrimsonCrew » Wed Sep 17, 2025 8:19 pm

arich35 wrote:I am fine with Colby taking over and hopefully securing that spot for the future. This draft class has a chance to be pretty damn good with Stout, Sigle and Colby being later round picks as starters already


Yeah, the draft class is looking like a second strong one in a row, which was badly needed after three disastrous ones (we hit on some clutch late-rounders in Purdy, Lenoir, Hufanga, and Winters, but flushed any pick before the fifth round down the toilet). As of now, you have to feel good about almost every pick except Bergen, granted expectations are muted for Rourke and there are still some pretty big questions about Collins and Martin.
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Re: 2025 49ers Season 

Post#128 » by thesack12 » Wed Sep 17, 2025 10:11 pm

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arich35 wrote:I am fine with Colby taking over and hopefully securing that spot for the future. This draft class has a chance to be pretty damn good with Stout, Sigle and Colby being later round picks as starters already


Yeah, the draft class is looking like a second strong one in a row, which was badly needed after three disastrous ones (we hit on some clutch late-rounders in Purdy, Lenoir, Hufanga, and Winters, but flushed any pick before the fifth round down the toilet). As of now, you have to feel good about almost every pick except Bergen, granted expectations are muted for Rourke and there are still some pretty big questions about Collins and Martin.


Yeah, the last 2 classes are looking pretty promising.

Really makes you wonder if Adam Peters might have played a big role in the poor drafting.

Obviously Jayden Daniels is looking like a potential long term home run pick, but outside of him I really haven't paid Washington's drafting any attention. Even with the Daniels, I'm not sure how much credit Peters deserves for that pick. A lot of people thought Chicago would take Daniels at #1. Washington was going to take whomever Chicago didn't between Caleb Williams and Daniels. I guess you can give Peters credit for not screwing it up and taking Maye or McCarthy. But Daniels was always the stronger prospect.

Again, outside of Daniels I don't know much about Washington's two most recent draft classes with Peters at the helm. Perhaps he has some other promising picks in there as well. What I do know is San Francisco's drafting prowess sure has picked up since Peters left the 49ers front office. Could be a coincidence, though.
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Re: 2025 49ers Season 

Post#129 » by CrimsonCrew » Wed Sep 17, 2025 10:54 pm

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arich35 wrote:I am fine with Colby taking over and hopefully securing that spot for the future. This draft class has a chance to be pretty damn good with Stout, Sigle and Colby being later round picks as starters already


Yeah, the draft class is looking like a second strong one in a row, which was badly needed after three disastrous ones (we hit on some clutch late-rounders in Purdy, Lenoir, Hufanga, and Winters, but flushed any pick before the fifth round down the toilet). As of now, you have to feel good about almost every pick except Bergen, granted expectations are muted for Rourke and there are still some pretty big questions about Collins and Martin.


Yeah, the last 2 classes are looking pretty promising.

Really makes you wonder if Adam Peters might have played a big role in the poor drafting.

Obviously Jayden Daniels is looking like a potential long term home run pick, but outside of him I really haven't paid Washington's drafting any attention. Even with the Daniels, I'm not sure how much credit Peters deserves for that pick. A lot of people thought Chicago would take Daniels at #1. Washington was going to take whomever Chicago didn't between Caleb Williams and Daniels. I guess you can give Peters credit for not screwing it up and taking Maye or McCarthy. But Daniels was always the stronger prospect.

Again, outside of Daniels I don't know much about Washington's two most recent draft classes with Peters at the helm. Perhaps he has some other promising picks in there as well. What I do know is San Francisco's drafting prowess sure has picked up since Peters left the 49ers front office. Could be a coincidence, though.


Part of it was the lack of high picks. We traded almost all early picks for Lance and McCaffrey. But then we just shat the bed in the third round repeatedly.

I really liked Washington's draft last year. I wanted the Niners to take Johnny Newton in the first last year. I also loved Mike Sainristil and Ben Sinnott, though both went higher than I expected. Also thought they reached on McCaffrey. Newton was injured last year and hasn't rounded into form this year. Sainristil has struggled so far this year. Sinnott and McCaffrey have been nonentities. I don't recall having strong feelings about Brandon Coleman, but he's been pretty bad to date. Not looking like a great draft outside Daniels, though this season is still brand new.

This year I liked Conerly and Amos. Amos has been fine. Conerly has struggled to date, though he's not a great fit at RT and needed some time to develop.
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Re: 2025 49ers Season 

Post#130 » by wco81 » Wed Sep 17, 2025 11:05 pm

Hope Williams contributes this year and beyond.
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Re: 2025 49ers Season 

Post#131 » by clyde21 » Thu Sep 18, 2025 5:30 am

arich35 wrote:I am fine with Colby taking over and hopefully securing that spot for the future. This draft class has a chance to be pretty damn good with Stout, Sigle and Colby being later round picks as starters already


our later round guys always contribute, it's the earlier rounds that are the problem.

we'll see with Mykel but early returns on Alfred aren't good
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Re: 2025 49ers Season 

Post#132 » by thesack12 » Thu Sep 18, 2025 11:18 am

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Yeah, the draft class is looking like a second strong one in a row, which was badly needed after three disastrous ones (we hit on some clutch late-rounders in Purdy, Lenoir, Hufanga, and Winters, but flushed any pick before the fifth round down the toilet). As of now, you have to feel good about almost every pick except Bergen, granted expectations are muted for Rourke and there are still some pretty big questions about Collins and Martin.


Yeah, the last 2 classes are looking pretty promising.

Really makes you wonder if Adam Peters might have played a big role in the poor drafting.

Obviously Jayden Daniels is looking like a potential long term home run pick, but outside of him I really haven't paid Washington's drafting any attention. Even with the Daniels, I'm not sure how much credit Peters deserves for that pick. A lot of people thought Chicago would take Daniels at #1. Washington was going to take whomever Chicago didn't between Caleb Williams and Daniels. I guess you can give Peters credit for not screwing it up and taking Maye or McCarthy. But Daniels was always the stronger prospect.

Again, outside of Daniels I don't know much about Washington's two most recent draft classes with Peters at the helm. Perhaps he has some other promising picks in there as well. What I do know is San Francisco's drafting prowess sure has picked up since Peters left the 49ers front office. Could be a coincidence, though.


Part of it was the lack of high picks. We traded almost all early picks for Lance and McCaffrey. But then we just shat the bed in the third round repeatedly.

I really liked Washington's draft last year. I wanted the Niners to take Johnny Newton in the first last year. I also loved Mike Sainristil and Ben Sinnott, though both went higher than I expected. Also thought they reached on McCaffrey. Newton was injured last year and hasn't rounded into form this year. Sainristil has struggled so far this year. Sinnott and McCaffrey have been nonentities. I don't recall having strong feelings about Brandon Coleman, but he's been pretty bad to date. Not looking like a great draft outside Daniels, though this season is still brand new.

This year I liked Conerly and Amos. Amos has been fine. Conerly has struggled to date, though he's not a great fit at RT and needed some time to develop.


Appreciate the insight.

Its worth noting that Washington's picks were at the top of each round. Also, in addition to #2 overall, they has (3) 2nd round picks, and (2) 3rd round picks. If Daniels hits and sustains his ceiling, that will be the only metric people will care about pertaining to that draft class. Still, that's some seriously rich draft capital for a single draft. Besides Daniels, They should eventually come away from that draft with at least 1 more core player, and 2 long term regular starters.

Its interesting to note that the 49ers drafting has picked up substantially since Adam Peters left. However, unless they allowed Peters to basically run the draft process, it doesn't really mean much. The final decisions are made by ShanaLynch. What's of current important are the current crop of 49ers playing on their rookie contracts and the upcoming drafts.
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Re: 2025 49ers Season 

Post#133 » by thesack12 » Thu Sep 18, 2025 11:19 am

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Re: 2025 49ers Season 

Post#134 » by CrimsonCrew » Thu Sep 18, 2025 3:53 pm

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arich35 wrote:I am fine with Colby taking over and hopefully securing that spot for the future. This draft class has a chance to be pretty damn good with Stout, Sigle and Colby being later round picks as starters already


our later round guys always contribute, it's the earlier rounds that are the problem.

we'll see with Mykel but early returns on Alfred aren't good


Collins was a lot better in this one. He was strong against double teams, got a legit pressure, absolutely blew up his guy on a couple plays. His PFF score was solid, but also likely hurt by some missed tackles downfield. He could stand to clean up his angles, but you don't often hear 330-pound DTs and "downfield" in the same sentence, so I'll certainly take it.

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It hasn't all been great with the rookies, but I'm excited that we can kind of see the trajectory for these guys and it looks really promising.

Williams has generally been a rock against the outside run, and he's already making plays on the interior as a pass-rusher next to Bosa, too. He's probably never going to be an elite edge rusher. Fine. If he can be elite against the run and then a good inside pass-rusher who plays 60+% of snaps, that's a good pick.

Collins has taken his lumps, but you can see the physical ability and the effort. Being the first second-round pick to break the log-jam says a lot about his attitude and mentality. He wants to get out there and play. He definitely needs to improve his consistency, but if he can do that, he can be a beast. Again, I'm not sure he's ever going to be a great pass-rusher, but if he can also be elite against the run while using his power and length to collapse the pocket on the occasional pass rush, that's a good pick.

Martin hasn't played yet, but his improvement even during the preseason was remarkable (granted he was awful in his first game). You saw the speed and explosiveness, but you also saw the rust from not playing. He's still a little too slow to see it and trigger, but the raw material is there, and the passion is there. I'm confident he'll be starting sometime soon, and might already be if Winters wasn't balling out.

Stout took his lumps in the first game, but he bounced back with a nice game in this one. Still plenty to clean up in terms of his physicality past five yards, but he's mixing it up in there and not backing down. He seems to have the makings of a 10-year slot player.

I've been disappointed we haven't seen more of CJ West. The injury really seems to have derailed his remarkable camp. Hopefully he's working back into it despite limited snaps. He's hurting for opportunities in part because we've been trotting out four DEs on obvious passing downs. He has some physical limitations, but I'm confident he'll get it, too.

Sigle has been a revelation to date. First game he was great. This past game he struggled more. Hard to criticize his play on the TD. He was in good position, but the throw and catch were great. He needs to refine his instincts in coverage, but he's a beast against the run and seems to be getting to the right spots in coverage. Will the light turn on in terms of ball skills? It doesn't always (see: Culliver, Chris), but if it does, particularly with his speed, dude could be an all pro. Really excited to see what he and Mustapha can do together.

And Colby looked really good from what I saw, too. I didn't notice any collapses, though admittedly I have trouble evaluating interior OL play in the run game. His pass blocking was very strong, though he missed a stunt once that very arguably cost us a TD on the long ball to Pearsall (Pearsall also slowed down inexplicably). I saw some highlights of great run blocks by him, getting across interior shade defenders or making blocks at the second level, but presumably he missed some, too. I'd absolutely love to see him lock up the LG spot.

The biggest thing for me this season has been that our young guys are getting loads of playing time (8 players from the past two drafts starting or getting significant playing time), a ton of our skill players on offense are hurt, we were without our QB, and we're still 2-0. It bodes well for late in the season, though we'll have to start coming out of games healthier for things to fall into place.
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Re: 2025 49ers Season 

Post#135 » by CrimsonCrew » Thu Sep 18, 2025 4:01 pm

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Yeah, the last 2 classes are looking pretty promising.

Really makes you wonder if Adam Peters might have played a big role in the poor drafting.

Obviously Jayden Daniels is looking like a potential long term home run pick, but outside of him I really haven't paid Washington's drafting any attention. Even with the Daniels, I'm not sure how much credit Peters deserves for that pick. A lot of people thought Chicago would take Daniels at #1. Washington was going to take whomever Chicago didn't between Caleb Williams and Daniels. I guess you can give Peters credit for not screwing it up and taking Maye or McCarthy. But Daniels was always the stronger prospect.

Again, outside of Daniels I don't know much about Washington's two most recent draft classes with Peters at the helm. Perhaps he has some other promising picks in there as well. What I do know is San Francisco's drafting prowess sure has picked up since Peters left the 49ers front office. Could be a coincidence, though.


Part of it was the lack of high picks. We traded almost all early picks for Lance and McCaffrey. But then we just shat the bed in the third round repeatedly.

I really liked Washington's draft last year. I wanted the Niners to take Johnny Newton in the first last year. I also loved Mike Sainristil and Ben Sinnott, though both went higher than I expected. Also thought they reached on McCaffrey. Newton was injured last year and hasn't rounded into form this year. Sainristil has struggled so far this year. Sinnott and McCaffrey have been nonentities. I don't recall having strong feelings about Brandon Coleman, but he's been pretty bad to date. Not looking like a great draft outside Daniels, though this season is still brand new.

This year I liked Conerly and Amos. Amos has been fine. Conerly has struggled to date, though he's not a great fit at RT and needed some time to develop.


Appreciate the insight.

Its worth noting that Washington's picks were at the top of each round. Also, in addition to #2 overall, they has (3) 2nd round picks, and (2) 3rd round picks. If Daniels hits and sustains his ceiling, that will be the only metric people will care about pertaining to that draft class. Still, that's some seriously rich draft capital for a single draft. Besides Daniels, They should eventually come away from that draft with at least 1 more core player, and 2 long term regular starters.

Its interesting to note that the 49ers drafting has picked up substantially since Adam Peters left. However, unless they allowed Peters to basically run the draft process, it doesn't really mean much. The final decisions are made by ShanaLynch. What's of current important are the current crop of 49ers playing on their rookie contracts and the upcoming drafts.


I was really worried about Peters leaving. My take on the drafts was that Lynch and Shanahan were more involved in the early picks, then took a back seat to Peters as the draft progressed. Given our early round struggles versus our late round success, I thought we might be in trouble. That concern has not borne out, with two extremely strong draft classes since Peters left.

As said above, I'm optimistic about this year's picks, though odds are one or two will not continue to ascend (Ji'Ayir Brown looked great as a rookie, after all), but even if that is the case this class looks very good. We'll see if they can keep it up.
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Re: 2025 49ers Season 

Post#136 » by Pattersonca65 » Thu Sep 18, 2025 4:42 pm

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arich35 wrote:I am fine with Colby taking over and hopefully securing that spot for the future. This draft class has a chance to be pretty damn good with Stout, Sigle and Colby being later round picks as starters already


Yeah, the draft class is looking like a second strong one in a row, which was badly needed after three disastrous ones (we hit on some clutch late-rounders in Purdy, Lenoir, Hufanga, and Winters, but flushed any pick before the fifth round down the toilet). As of now, you have to feel good about almost every pick except Bergen, granted expectations are muted for Rourke and there are still some pretty big questions about Collins and Martin.


If Colby continues to improve, this will be a big score as an upgrade from Banks and cheaper. So far it looks like buyer's remorse starting to creep in Green Bay for acquiring Banks.

https://dairylandexpress.com/packers-already-having-buyers-remorse-on-major-offseason-addition-01k57ghtgbhd
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Re: 2025 49ers Season 

Post#137 » by CrimsonCrew » Thu Sep 18, 2025 5:17 pm

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arich35 wrote:I am fine with Colby taking over and hopefully securing that spot for the future. This draft class has a chance to be pretty damn good with Stout, Sigle and Colby being later round picks as starters already


Yeah, the draft class is looking like a second strong one in a row, which was badly needed after three disastrous ones (we hit on some clutch late-rounders in Purdy, Lenoir, Hufanga, and Winters, but flushed any pick before the fifth round down the toilet). As of now, you have to feel good about almost every pick except Bergen, granted expectations are muted for Rourke and there are still some pretty big questions about Collins and Martin.


If Colby continues to improve, this will be a big score as an upgrade from Banks and cheaper. So far it looks like buyer's remorse starting to creep in Green Bay for acquiring Banks.

https://dairylandexpress.com/packers-already-having-buyers-remorse-on-major-offseason-addition-01k57ghtgbhd


That deal was such a head-scratcher. Especially from a FO that I think of as being pretty savvy. Banks is supposed to be a really good guy, local kid, pillar of the community sort, so I hate to crap on him. But the reality is that he was bad for the Niners. He had a handful of good games in 2023, but outside of those three or four games, he struggled. Injuries almost certainly played a part, and he was never the best fit for our system. This past year, every player who stepped in for him was better than him. And then he cashed in. But I'll take the comp pick, and the weakness on the Packers' OL.
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Re: 2025 49ers Season 

Post#138 » by RIPskaterdude » Fri Sep 19, 2025 9:24 pm

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Post#139 » by CrimsonCrew » Fri Sep 19, 2025 9:35 pm

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Unbelievable. Well, the Cards are pretty banged up, so we've still got a solid chance, but really wanted to see more of Colby. Zakelj has historically been a good pass-blocker, and the Cards may have the worst CB group in the league at present, so hopefully whoever our QB is can go off. I'm seriously considering starting Pearsall and Jennings in fantasy, though that's partially because my other WRs ain't great.
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Post#140 » by Pattersonca65 » Fri Sep 19, 2025 9:52 pm

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RIPskaterdude wrote:Lol of course

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Unbelievable. Well, the Cards are pretty banged up, so we've still got a solid chance, but really wanted to see more of Colby. Zakelj has historically been a good pass-blocker, and the Cards may have the worst CB group in the league at present, so hopefully whoever our QB is can go off. I'm seriously considering starting Pearsall and Jennings in fantasy, though that's partially because my other WRs ain't great.


Jennings hasnt practiced all week. Also Watkins hurt calf. Out three to four more weeks

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