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Kawhi "no-show job" that paid $28M

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Re: Kawhi "no-show job" that paid $28M 

Post#541 » by hyper316 » Sun Sep 14, 2025 12:56 pm

What was the amount that Raptors could pay more than Clippers for the extra year? Was it $48M?

Then the $28M sponsorship plus $20M stock makes sense

The deal happened in 2021/2022 right? Probably there's something that happened in 2019 at the time of signing that hasn't be uncovered yey
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Re: Kawhi "no-show job" that paid $28M 

Post#542 » by kalel123 » Sun Sep 14, 2025 6:59 pm

hyper316 wrote:What was the amount that Raptors could pay more than Clippers for the extra year? Was it $48M?

Then the $28M sponsorship plus $20M stock makes sense

The deal happened in 2021/2022 right? Probably there's something that happened in 2019 at the time of signing that hasn't be uncovered yey


A lot of people (especially naysayers) are so hung up on the year the deal supposedly happened but they could've easily agreed to this happening in 2019 verbally (with or without Aspiration) for it to take several years later provided that he's still with the team. That probably allows them to avoid the scrutiny in 2019 when a lot of eyes were actually on what was going on. This is essentially what took place in Joe Smith fiasco where they agreed to pay him through his second contract, except they were stupid enough to leave it in writing.

With this one, not something as obvious but it's just way too much money with a lot of too-convenient coincidences and circumstancial evidences for powers-that-be to just brush aside without controversy even though it's obvious they want to.
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Re: Kawhi "no-show job" that paid $28M 

Post#543 » by kalel123 » Sun Sep 14, 2025 7:07 pm

djsunyc wrote:cuban needs to stfu and check himself. why he is playing the role of rudy guliani is beyond me.


The way he idiotically inserted himself into this controversy and the way he sold Mavs and unceremoniously got washed out of power after telling everyone he's still gonna be in charge of the team's basketball decisions tells me he's lost his marbles in his old age. Not much going on up there in terms of logic or critical thinking except the mouth's still gotta talk. A lot.
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Re: Kawhi "no-show job" that paid $28M 

Post#544 » by inonba » Sun Sep 14, 2025 7:50 pm

hyper316 wrote:What was the amount that Raptors could pay more than Clippers for the extra year? Was it $48M?

Then the $28M sponsorship plus $20M stock makes sense

The deal happened in 2021/2022 right? Probably there's something that happened in 2019 at the time of signing that hasn't be uncovered yey


The numbers don't have to add up exactly. There's money to compensate the monetary loss in losing your bird rights, compensation for signing with the new team (signing bonus) to entice the player to leave, compensation for the money taken under the table. The number just has to be large enough, as we don't know the validity of how much Kawhi really wants to go home vs how greedy he actually is. I'm in the camp of he's greedy as ****, judging by the total number.
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Re: Kawhi "no-show job" that paid $28M 

Post#545 » by TGM » Mon Sep 15, 2025 9:22 am

NBA should create a bounty program to reward whistle blowers for tampering accusations like these. I'm sure you would start getting some juicy text messages etc...

Ballmer however, is probably too powerful and connected that he has gotten his inner circle to protect him from any wrong-doing.
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Re: Kawhi "no-show job" that paid $28M 

Post#546 » by rage2021 » Mon Sep 15, 2025 10:27 pm

Spineless Silver won't do anything. The problem isn't Kawhi or the clippers. It's Silver he needs to go yesterday
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Re: Kawhi "no-show job" that paid $28M 

Post#547 » by TGM » Wed Sep 17, 2025 3:27 am

What does Ballmer, Cherny, Albrecht, Silver and Sandberg all have in common?
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Post#548 » by C Court » Wed Sep 17, 2025 3:35 am

TGM wrote:What does Ballmer, Cherny, Albrecht, Silver and Sandberg all have in common?


They are all males with the letter E in their name.
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Re: Kawhi "no-show job" that paid $28M 

Post#549 » by MessiahUjiri » Wed Sep 17, 2025 3:35 am

TGM wrote:What does Ballmer, Cherny, Albrecht, Silver and Sandberg all have in common?



Who nose?

Mark Cuban curiously also belongs in the same group.
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Re: Kawhi "no-show job" that paid $28M 

Post#550 » by Senbonzakura » Wed Sep 17, 2025 4:52 am

MessiahUjiri wrote:
TGM wrote:What does Ballmer, Cherny, Albrecht, Silver and Sandberg all have in common?



Who nose?

Mark Cuban curiously also belongs in the same group.

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Re: Kawhi "no-show job" that paid $28M 

Post#551 » by LoveMyRaps » Wed Sep 17, 2025 4:56 am

Kawhi should have to return to the Raps.

He can start for RJ.
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Post#552 » by Zeno » Wed Sep 17, 2025 10:01 am

LoveMyRaps wrote:Kawhi should have to return to the Raps.

He can start for RJ.

I feel the Darko/Kawhi combo should be a television show. the perfect comedy duo.
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Re: Kawhi "no-show job" that paid $28M 

Post#553 » by Duffman100 » Wed Sep 17, 2025 1:01 pm

MessiahUjiri wrote:
TGM wrote:What does Ballmer, Cherny, Albrecht, Silver and Sandberg all have in common?



Who nose?

Mark Cuban curiously also belongs in the same group.


Alright, the undertone of anti-semitism might be okay in whatever **** hole internet culture you guys are part of. But it isn't accepted here.

Anymore from anyone is going to result in a significant ban.
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Post#554 » by C Court » Wed Sep 17, 2025 4:10 pm

Yesterday, Mark Cuban made a series of long posts on Twitter explaining Ballmer’s side. Essentially he wrote that Aspiration was a ponzi that was in need of new cash and Ballmer was duped. As well, Cuban says that Pablo doesn’t understand how to properly read and interpret financial documents. Therefore, Torre is drawing the wrong conclusions from the 3,000 pages of docs.

Cuban is missing (or conveniently ignoring) a couple of key points. First, Aspiration can be a ponzi that needed cash and duped Ballmer/Wong in the process, while at the same time it was a convenient vehicle that allowed the Clippers to secretly funnel millions to Kawhi and Uncle Dennis. Both can be true.

Second, even if Pablo is misinterpreting financial documents, that does not explain away how and why 7 finance department employees have evidence and personal knowledge that the Ballmer/Wong funds were invested in Aspiration for the sole purpose of circumventing the NBA cap and to enrich Kawhi.

There is no financial benefit for Aspiration to pay millions to Kawhi as a celebrity endorser and then keep it a total secret. It makes no sense, ponzi or no ponzi. Here is the first of Cuban's latest posts.

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Re: Kawhi "no-show job" that paid $28M 

Post#555 » by DreamTeam09 » Wed Sep 17, 2025 5:53 pm

C Court wrote:Yesterday, Mark Cuban made a series of long posts on Twitter explaining Ballmer’s side. Essentially he wrote that Aspiration was a ponzi that was in need of new cash and Ballmer was duped. As well, Cuban says that Pablo doesn’t understand how to properly read and interpret financial documents. Therefore, Torre is drawing the wrong conclusions from the 3,000 pages of docs.

Cuban is missing (or conveniently ignoring) a couple of key points. First, Aspiration can be a ponzi that needed cash and duped Ballmer/Wong in the process while at the same time it was a convenient vehicle that allowed them to secretly funnel millions to Kawhi and Uncle Dennis. Both can be true at the same time.

Second, even if Pablo is misinterpreting financial documents, that does not explain away how and why 7 finance department employees have evidence and personal knowledge that the Ballmer/Wong funds were invested in Aspiration for the sole purpose of circumventing the NBA cap and to enrich Kawhi.

There is no financial benefit for Aspiration to pay millions to Kawhi as a celebrity endorser and then keep it a total secret. It makes no sense, ponzi or no ponzi. Here is the first of Cuban's latest posts.

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I'm the last one to cape for billionaires and the super rich but at the same time a lot of wetlhy ppl get duped left right and centre.
plus those guys Pablo talked to could be lying, or misleading information. So we're just supposed to believe some anonymous accounts with digitally altered voices?
But you are right, 2 things can be true at the same time
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Re: Kawhi "no-show job" that paid $28M 

Post#556 » by PushDaRock » Wed Sep 17, 2025 8:21 pm

DreamTeam09 wrote:
C Court wrote:Yesterday, Mark Cuban made a series of long posts on Twitter explaining Ballmer’s side. Essentially he wrote that Aspiration was a ponzi that was in need of new cash and Ballmer was duped. As well, Cuban says that Pablo doesn’t understand how to properly read and interpret financial documents. Therefore, Torre is drawing the wrong conclusions from the 3,000 pages of docs.

Cuban is missing (or conveniently ignoring) a couple of key points. First, Aspiration can be a ponzi that needed cash and duped Ballmer/Wong in the process while at the same time it was a convenient vehicle that allowed them to secretly funnel millions to Kawhi and Uncle Dennis. Both can be true at the same time.

Second, even if Pablo is misinterpreting financial documents, that does not explain away how and why 7 finance department employees have evidence and personal knowledge that the Ballmer/Wong funds were invested in Aspiration for the sole purpose of circumventing the NBA cap and to enrich Kawhi.

There is no financial benefit for Aspiration to pay millions to Kawhi as a celebrity endorser and then keep it a total secret. It makes no sense, ponzi or no ponzi. Here is the first of Cuban's latest posts.

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I'm the last one to cape for billionaires and the super rich but at the same time a lot of wetlhy ppl get duped left right and centre.
plus those guys Pablo talked to could be lying, or misleading information. So we're just supposed to believe some anonymous accounts with digitally altered voices?
But you are right, 2 things can be true at the same time


Where is the incentive for 7 former Aspiration employees to get together and decide they are all going to make up a story and lie to try and ruin Ballmer?

And yes, we are supposed to believe that they are telling Pablo what they believe to be true because Pablo has vetted his sources. The same employees within Aspiration are also the reason why Joe Sanberg is going to jail. Their testimonials seem to be good enough for the Feds, but aren't for this?
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Re: Kawhi "no-show job" that paid $28M 

Post#557 » by PushDaRock » Wed Sep 17, 2025 8:33 pm

C Court wrote:Yesterday, Mark Cuban made a series of long posts on Twitter explaining Ballmer’s side. Essentially he wrote that Aspiration was a ponzi that was in need of new cash and Ballmer was duped. As well, Cuban says that Pablo doesn’t understand how to properly read and interpret financial documents. Therefore, Torre is drawing the wrong conclusions from the 3,000 pages of docs.

Cuban is missing (or conveniently ignoring) a couple of key points. First, Aspiration can be a ponzi that needed cash and duped Ballmer/Wong in the process, while at the same time it was a convenient vehicle that allowed the Clippers to secretly funnel millions to Kawhi and Uncle Dennis. Both can be true.

Second, even if Pablo is misinterpreting financial documents, that does not explain away how and why 7 finance department employees have evidence and personal knowledge that the Ballmer/Wong funds were invested in Aspiration for the sole purpose of circumventing the NBA cap and to enrich Kawhi.

There is no financial benefit for Aspiration to pay millions to Kawhi as a celebrity endorser and then keep it a total secret. It makes no sense, ponzi or no ponzi. Here is the first of Cuban's latest posts.

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He basically can't explain why Kawhi was the only one getting this type of deal so far away from fair market value while others got more normal deals other than "scammers gonna scam". It's just extreme gaslighting saying Ballmer didn't personally hand Kawhi a briefcase of money so there's no actual proof of cap circumvention.
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Re: Kawhi "no-show job" that paid $28M 

Post#558 » by Tofubeque » Wed Sep 17, 2025 9:06 pm

Wong and Ballmer were making multimillion investments into Aspiration even after the company was openly in default.

Aspiration was making multimillion payments to Kawhi marked as "critical" even as they were laying off staff and missing rent.

There's only one explanation for both these things, and it's the Clippers using Aspiration as a go-between to pay Kawhi. It was in their interest to help prop up Aspiration, so they could keep using it for that purpose and all this wouldn't come to light.
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Re: Kawhi "no-show job" that paid $28M 

Post#559 » by TheGeneral99 » Wed Sep 17, 2025 9:42 pm

Kawhi decided to go home to LA instead of repeating with us who had a perfect roster and management to accommodate him.

So what happened?

His sister gets charged for murder.

He's injured 70% of the time and playoff disappointment after another disappointment.

He is completely overshadowed by stars like Lebron, AD and now Luka in LA and nobody cares about him.

Now one of the biggest scandals comes out and ruins his entire reputation.

Such karma, and it's sad because he was healthy in the 2020 bubble and we likely repeat as champs if he's on that squad, which probably would have cemented him as a top 10-15 player of all-time and taken Lebron completely out of the GOAT conversation. The dude had a unique opportunity to be the biggest name in an entire country, and he would have been way more respected in the US as well.
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