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[Tony15]

Just like Vance Boetler....anyone who'd make the calculated decision to take a life is mentally ill.

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[BadMofoPimp]

It’s already happening to right wing activists. Charlie Kirk was not a politician, he was a right wing activist. People on this very message board are justifying his assassination. I have done nothing but preach about speech over violence, including on this own message board. I will continue to preach these values, as that is democracy. But there are those who viewed Charlie Kirk as a threat to democracy who are literally celebrating his death as saving democracy. This is the opposite of democracy. Anyone justifying a MURDER is the bad guy and it is shameful people have not been banned for propagating violence on here.

Mankind has always been unstable. There have been political violence in many countries as people get deluded due to mass media fanning the flames. Some people just take what they hear to heart. There is more to life than thinking our personal beliefs are bigger than others. I don't mind being proven wrong.

My hot take: almost every politician views a person as either a tool or an enemy. I try to see people from the perspective of their humanity. But damn it’s tough seeing the humanity from some politician’s tool on here justify killing politicians enemies. Contract I am speaking about you.

So true. I hated what happened to Pelosi or anyone on either side as much as Kirk. Just bad precedence.

[HeatFanLifer]

This is the state of our country as I see it at the moment:

Woke Left Position: Who cares who killed Charlie Kirk, it was a good thing and let’s kill more people that disagree with us.
Leftist Position: Groypers killed Charlie Kirk.
Moderate Position: The police report says a person in love with a transgender person killed Charlie Kirk. An investigation will determine anything else.
Conservative Position: The investigation will find A Trans terrorist with accomplices killed Charlie Kirk,
Woke Right Position: Israel.

Where are we now in this country that people aren’t even on the same planet?

[HeatFanLifer]

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[Vertical Limit]

This is the state of our country as I see it at the moment:

Woke Left Position: Who cares who killed Charlie Kirk, it was a good thing and let’s kill more people that disagree with us.
Leftist Position: Groypers killed Charlie Kirk.
Moderate Position: The police report says a person in love with a transgender person killed Charlie Kirk. An investigation will determine anything else.
Conservative Position: The investigation will find A Trans terrorist with accomplices killed Charlie Kirk,
Woke Right Position: Israel.

Where are we now in this country that people aren’t even on the same planet?

God bless this country.. we need it now more than ever.

i thought things were bad when we as a country was receiving the consequences of the Iraq war which lead to the Great Recession in 07-09..

And then a little over a decade later, we had a pandemic where many died, then those couple months where businesses and major corporations were filing bankruptcy to cash out on a loophole during Covid..

But this year may be the most consequential year in our country’s history. The empire is crumbling.

[Tony15]

Kimmel on indefinite leave....so much for the free speech certain folks pretend to care about smh.

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Kimmel on indefinite leave....so much for the free speech certain folks pretend to care about smh.

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I have said it before on this very thread.. the FCC meddling with our first amendment rights is an old tale told too many times.

Back in the mid 2000s, then president George Bush had the FCC at his fingertips, directing them to go after all the radio stations that were bad mouthing him and they were laying on heavy fines, fines so big that it would literally bankrupt the station.

Now we see a clip where the FCC chair goes on some podcast and basically says he will threaten to cancel licenses from affiliates if they dont remove the shows he does not like.

The First amendment is hanging by a thread in this country.. amongst many freedoms.

The country is at it’s most consequential year.

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[marson]

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Mental gymnastics are insane.

[HeatFanLifer]

The Jimmy Kimmel thing is not a free speech issue. The first amendment protects you from government interference, not protection from your employer. One can argue the FCC threat lead to his suspension, but the FCC is obligated to pursue the public’s interest. Blantantly lying to your audience about who killed a very prominent, if not the leader of the youth conservative movement, is not in the public interest.

The political environment right now is too heated to get facts wrong. If Jimmy just owned the fault instead of doubling down, it would have gone away. Kimmel knows his ratings are way down though, so if he leaves the show like this, then it would prove very opportunistic.

In other news, Trump is designating ANTIFA as a terrorist organization. I am all for arresting those that pursue violence as a means to achieve political goals, but I have no idea how this will go down and I have seriois questions. One question: if ANTIFA is a terrorist org, will people just say now they aren’t apart of ANTIFA, just another org with exactly the same ideology, people, and tactics? What does the terrorist designation do to stop ANTIFA? Can you be arrested now simply for being perceived to be a member? Does it get rid of habeus corpus?

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The KKK does not have a domestic terrorist designation.. nor many neo nazi sub groups. Such as the Groypers… who just a few days ago, Nick Fuentes said on the air he would not walk on the same sidewalk late at night as Candace Owens because she is black and accused her of being a man, talked about her shoulders and jaw line.

I dont even know who ANTIFA is because they dont have an official leader/member, there is no source of high ranking members. So that to me sounds like it’s a movement, not an organization.

And every answer you get whereever source you search it up, it is categorized as a movement.


So to me this is just another created distraction by the administration to rally up his supporters. YEAH F ANTIFA, whoever they are!

Where do we catch antifa? Theyre terrorists, bombing public spaces and lynching people, correct? Theres gotta be names. Lets lock them up, right? In the same prison as the boston bomber and the 90s world trade center bomber.

I know I can list names like David Duke, Nick Fuentes, Daniel Carver…. So theres gotta be names of Antifa, an organization is made up of members, a movement is not an organization.

[Tony15]

@HFL With all due respect, Brendan Carr is a "Trump" apointee to head the FCC iirc, who you yourself admits to threatening to "take action" against a network Trump's been railing against for Lord knows how long.

No matter how convenient it is for some to narrowly construee the definition, it IS a free speech issue.

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Here is a probable way of how the admin will identify who ANTIFA is:

Ron Desantis holds a press conference and gets interrupted by a heckler that yells “FASCIST!”

Ron: Who said that? Arrest him. He called me a fascist. And antifa is short for anti fascist, so he must be a terrorist.

[HeatFanLifer]

@HFL With all due respect, Brendan Carr is a "Trump" apointee to head the FCC iirc, who you yourself admits to threatening to "take action" against a network Trump's been railing against for Lord knows how long.

No matter how convenient it is for some to narrowly construee the definition, it IS a free speech issue.

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The FCC was assigned by congress to do the following (hiding it cuz it’s a long and boring statement)

Spoiler:

The Federal Communications Commission (FCC) regulates interstate and international communications by radio, television, wire, satellite, and cable in all 50 states, the District of Columbia and U.S. territories. An independent U.S. government agency overseen by Congress, the Commission is the federal agency responsible for implementing and enforcing America’s communications law and regulations.

The action Carr threatened was an investigation into whether any laws orregulations when using public airwaves were violated. If you want to be a champion for free speech go right ahead. But blatant lies are not protected free speech when it comes to using PUBLIC airwaves.

Like I said though, this conversation topic is moot. Kimmel wants to get fired. Look at how much cred he is getting cuz of this.

[HeatFanLifer]

Here is a probable way of how the admin will identify who ANTIFA is:

Ron Desantis holds a press conference and gets interrupted by a heckler that yells “FASCIST!”

Ron: Who said that? Arrest him. He called me a fascist. And antifa is short for anti fascist, so he must be a terrorist.

It could happen. Probably not with Desantis cuz he’s pretty smart about most **** other than listening to NEO-Con advisors when he ran for President. But I can see the potential for abuse. Especially with Pam Bondi at the helm. She just doesn’t think about **** and is single handedly the source of 99% of the Trump admin’s own goals.

[contract]

Soooo about baby Hitler ...

[contract]

What about angry toddler Hitler?

[contract]

Adolescent Hitler?

Young adult Hitler?

Grown ass man Hitler?


What about syphilitic maniac Hitler? I know the left will say "no" to this one because being sick and insane, he's not responsible for his actions.

[Shewasfly]

My post literally says "Few will probably change and instead just dive deeper into their idolatry" so I'm not sure what you providing evidence of exactly that does.

I was correcting you, they aren't "diving deeper into idolatry", you're misrepresenting the other side's views because you disagree with them.

No, it's literally idolatry. Putting anything above God, including your country, and following His Word is idolatry.

Historically, most white supremacists claimed to be Christians and also went to church right before their lynchings.

People equivocating center right debate bros like Charlie Kirk with white supremacy, nazism, lynchings etc. is the reason he's dead today. It turns out if you convince an entire population that the most evil thing a person can be isn't a rapist or murderer, but a white supremacist/nazi, and then you conflate anyones views you don't like with those things, some people will make the logical leap that those people are evil and its ok (maybe even righteous and justified) to do bad things to them, shocking, I know.

No, he's dead because a white 20 something male entrenched in online meme culture and raised in a MAGA household where he had a gun in his hand from 6 years old used a high powered rifle to shoot him.

Its your rhetoric that's the problem, you're the one who has a problem with self reflection. For someone who likes to point the finger at others, claim that they need to look in the mirror, this thread was largely non political until you took it over and started spamming it with leftist rage bait (Bishop would post updates but kept his commentary largely to himself). There's tons of right wing rage bait that I could spam here but I don't because I know most on the board don't care to make everything political, and it just creates division. That said, I once again am taking the bait so I guess I'm not as disciplined as I should be either.

You are free to do whatever you want to do, same as me, and no one is stopping you.

But there are a few who will get it. One of the most popular Christian artists just made a video about losing 30k followers in a day because he posted to honor Kirk. Note: they didn't harass him or threaten him, they simply unfollowed. Because they know his message did not align with our faith.

If the metric is who people support, I'm good with that if you are. Again I don't think you're going to like where this leads in the long term.

Either way, I'm over it. Its Monday now and the pomp and circumstance is done. All this needs to be wrapped up so we can get back to the Epstein files being released.

I don't think its very hard to do both. Pressure the release of the Epstein files, and go after the people spreading the flames that lead to people like Charlie Kirk being politically assassinated. I'm not over it. I suspect you weren't over it the weekend after George Floyd or any other numerous deaths that probably mattered to you a lot more (I could be mistaken, and if I am I apologize for assumptions).

Cancellations for Disney were apparently so plentiful they had to create a new page for them to go through. I am very okay with it. Even if the pendulum were to somehow swing the other way and they got more sign ups and became more profitable due to their censorship, I'd be fine with that. That's because it means Trump and his authoritarian regime have not yet fully succeeded in turning the country completely fascist and people still have the ability to choose certain things for themselves (even if the broader media is still state/government controlled).

I think it makes perfect sense for you to not be over Charlie Kirk's murder since it particularly affected you. I, however, definitely am, especially considering it and now the silencing of Jimmy Kimmel all seems to be aimed at moving conversations away from Trump's involvement with Epstein and the organized sexual exploitation of minors.

[Shewasfly]

Kimmel on indefinite leave....so much for the free speech certain folks pretend to care about smh.

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If it helps, they're eventually going to just stop pretending. Just like they admitted Projected 2025 was the plan all along as soon as Trump was elected.

Right now, they still feel their grip on absolute power is somewhat tenuous so they and their supporters must trot out defenses to all their abuses of the American people/system. Which comprises of them just...well, lying through their teeth. Like how they keep saying the Left are celebrating Kirk's death or advocating for people to be shot due to their opinions when every left leaning politician has unequivocally come out against it, while the Reight politicians stoke division and talk about half the country needing to be eradicated and labeled enemies.

When there's no basis for truth, they lie. Blatantly. Or erase facts, which is why they also removed the study that shows the overwhelming majority of political violence has come from the Reight from the DOJ.