Welcome to Boston, Baylor Scheierman!

[Fencer reregistered]

The first tranche of minutes at the 1-3 go to Brown, White, Pritchard and -- when Tatum is healthy again -- whatever usage Tatum gets playing next to double bigs. In that model, Simons won't be worth keeping.

The next tranche is a competition between Hauser, Scheirman, Walsh, Gonzalez et al. If Hauser doesn't dominate that competition, it might well be appropriate to trade him.

Are you suggesting that only one from that next tranche group can get rotation minutes when Tatum returns and assuming Simons does not? And how would you qualify dominate? As a designated shooter he is almost certainly won't lose that competition, where else can the rest of the group catch up and make Hauser expendable?

Maybe I undercounted by one guy.

To keep it simple, assume there are 3*48 = 144 minutes for those guys, 3 of whom are starters getting 30+ minutes each. That leaves room mainly for a Sixth Man plus another rotation player, with everybody else getting scraps or injury-replacement roles at best.

I guess we could say that Jrue was traded for Simons and now Simons basically gets Jrue's minutes, with roles otherwise going through fairly minor adjustments. Or if Simons is traded than there's room for at least one rotation player next to Hauser.

[Bad-Thoma]

The first tranche of minutes at the 1-3 go to Brown, White, Pritchard and -- when Tatum is healthy again -- whatever usage Tatum gets playing next to double bigs. In that model, Simons won't be worth keeping.

The next tranche is a competition between Hauser, Scheirman, Walsh, Gonzalez et al. If Hauser doesn't dominate that competition, it might well be appropriate to trade him.

Are you suggesting that only one from that next tranche group can get rotation minutes when Tatum returns and assuming Simons does not? And how would you qualify dominate? As a designated shooter he is almost certainly won't lose that competition, where else can the rest of the group catch up and make Hauser expendable?

Maybe I undercounted by one guy.

To keep it simple, assume there are 3*48 = 144 minutes for those guys, 3 of whom are starters getting 30+ minutes each. That leaves room mainly for a Sixth Man plus another rotation player, with everybody else getting scraps or injury-replacement roles at best.

I guess we could say that Jrue was traded for Simons and now Simons basically gets Jrue's minutes, with roles otherwise going through fairly minor adjustments. Or if Simons is traded than there's room for at least one rotation player next to Hauser.

I'd be pretty surprised if any of our current front court players hit 30 minutes on average, that feels like a "by committee" kind of group. I could be completely wrong and someone could emerge but I think it'll be a deeper rotation than Joe usually uses.

[zoyathedestroya]

I still can’t believe Brad was able to get Schei, JT, and Luka all on the same team.

[brackdan70]

I still can’t believe Brad was able to get Schei, JT, and Luka all on the same team.

(Elgin) Baylor (Shai)erman is set to have a big season.

[flintsky21]

I still can’t believe Brad was able to get Schei, JT, and Luka all on the same team.

Don't forget Ant.

[Curmudgeon]

I still can’t believe Brad was able to get Schei, JT, and Luka all on the same team.

(Elgin) Baylor (Shai)erman is set to have a big season.

Not if his performance in Summer league was any indication.

[bucknersrevenge]

I still can’t believe Brad was able to get Schei, JT, and Luka all on the same team.

(Elgin) Baylor (Shai)erman is set to have a big season.

Not if his performance in Summer league was any indication.

Well, tbf, how often is Summer League an indication of anything?

[Curmudgeon]

(Elgin) Baylor (Shai)erman is set to have a big season.

Not if his performance in Summer league was any indication.

Well, tbf, how often is Summer League an indication of anything?

If you play well in Summer league, it means absolutely nothing. If you play poorly, it means you played poorly against G-league caliber opposition.

[bucknersrevenge]

Not if his performance in Summer league was any indication.

Well, tbf, how often is Summer League an indication of anything?

If you play well in Summer league, it means absolutely nothing. If you play poorly, it means you played poorly against G-league caliber opposition.

Right. But he didn't play poorly. He SHOT poorly. His overall floor game was solid. Nobody worries about shooting during Summer League.

[Curmudgeon]

Right. But he didn't play poorly. He SHOT poorly. His overall floor game was solid. Nobody worries about shooting during Summer League.

Unless your name is Shulga.

[darrendaye]

Right. But he didn't play poorly. He SHOT poorly. His overall floor game was solid. Nobody worries about shooting during Summer League.

Unless your name is Shulga.

Good return serve.

[bucknersrevenge]

Right. But he didn't play poorly. He SHOT poorly. His overall floor game was solid. Nobody worries about shooting during Summer League.

Unless your name is Shulga.

I suppose...though guys picked 57th in last year's draft aren't really on my radar yet. That may just be a "me" thing though.

[cloverleaf]

The first tranche of minutes at the 1-3 go to Brown, White, Pritchard and -- when Tatum is healthy again -- whatever usage Tatum gets playing next to double bigs. In that model, Simons won't be worth keeping.

The next tranche is a competition between Hauser, Scheirman, Walsh, Gonzalez et al. If Hauser doesn't dominate that competition, it might well be appropriate to trade him.

Are you suggesting that only one from that next tranche group can get rotation minutes when Tatum returns and assuming Simons does not? And how would you qualify dominate? As a designated shooter he is almost certainly won't lose that competition, where else can the rest of the group catch up and make Hauser expendable?

Maybe I undercounted by one guy.

To keep it simple, assume there are 3*48 = 144 minutes for those guys, 3 of whom are starters getting 30+ minutes each. That leaves room mainly for a Sixth Man plus another rotation player, with everybody else getting scraps or injury-replacement roles at best.

I guess we could say that Jrue was traded for Simons and now Simons basically gets Jrue's minutes, with roles otherwise going through fairly minor adjustments. Or if Simons is traded than there's room for at least one rotation player next to Hauser.

If the C's let Joe basically go with a 7-man rotation, which you seem to suggest, the team deserves to fail. But that "next tranche" competition is the #1 reason to watch the C's this year, with the Queta/competition watch #2.

[165bows]

Are you suggesting that only one from that next tranche group can get rotation minutes when Tatum returns and assuming Simons does not? And how would you qualify dominate? As a designated shooter he is almost certainly won't lose that competition, where else can the rest of the group catch up and make Hauser expendable?

Maybe I undercounted by one guy.

To keep it simple, assume there are 3*48 = 144 minutes for those guys, 3 of whom are starters getting 30+ minutes each. That leaves room mainly for a Sixth Man plus another rotation player, with everybody else getting scraps or injury-replacement roles at best.

I guess we could say that Jrue was traded for Simons and now Simons basically gets Jrue's minutes, with roles otherwise going through fairly minor adjustments. Or if Simons is traded than there's room for at least one rotation player next to Hauser.

If the C's let Joe basically go with a 7-man rotation, which you seem to suggest, the team deserves to fail. But that "next tranche" competition is the #1 reason to watch the C's this year, with the Queta/competition watch #2.

I've always been neutral/favorable with Joe but if he grinds Derrick White and Jaylen Brown down to the ground with excessive minutes that's over I will go to Miami to shake playa's hand personally for his prescience.

[cloverleaf]

And no more Rico? He's Elgin now?

[bucknersrevenge]

I'd like to see Baylor in a more uptempo system this year which I think could happen given our personnel. Near the end of the year, he seemed to earn more of Joe's trust with his defense. He just can't be used solely as a spot up shooter. He's not Sam Hauser and we shouldn't ask him to be that. He is absolutely a playmaker. Rebounds pretty well. There is a huge glut at backup wing this year. How he navigates that is gonna be one of the interesting stories for this team all year. Brad loves his big guards that can handle. Always has. I think if you loaded Brad up with truth serum, he might say that his ideal backcourt grouping moving forward would be White, Simons, and Sceierman because of their size.

[darrendaye]

I'd like to see Baylor in a more uptempo system this year which I think could happen given our personnel. Near the end of the year, he seemed to earn more of Joe's trust with his defense. He just can't be used solely as a spot up shooter. He's not Sam Hauser and we shouldn't ask him to be that. He is absolutely a playmaker. Rebounds pretty well. There is a huge glut at backup wing this year. How he navigates that is gonna be one of the interesting stories for this team all year. Brad loves his big guards that can handle. Always has. I think if you loaded Brad up with truth serum, he might say that his ideal backcourt grouping moving forward would be White, Simons, and Sceierman because of their size.

He's going to have to shoot better than Marcus Smart from 3, so there's still a level he needs to meet this year IMO. But he's an intangibles player that needs to keep his energy up on defense but I can see carving out a role for this gen.

And I'm not getting near that little morsel of Simons cheese there at the end....

[bucknersrevenge]

I'd like to see Baylor in a more uptempo system this year which I think could happen given our personnel. Near the end of the year, he seemed to earn more of Joe's trust with his defense. He just can't be used solely as a spot up shooter. He's not Sam Hauser and we shouldn't ask him to be that. He is absolutely a playmaker. Rebounds pretty well. There is a huge glut at backup wing this year. How he navigates that is gonna be one of the interesting stories for this team all year. Brad loves his big guards that can handle. Always has. I think if you loaded Brad up with truth serum, he might say that his ideal backcourt grouping moving forward would be White, Simons, and Sceierman because of their size.

He's going to have to shoot better than Marcus Smart from 3, so there's still a level he needs to meet this year IMO. But he's an intangibles player that needs to keep his energy up on defense but I can see carving out a role for this gen.

And I'm not getting near that little morsel of Simons cheese there at the end.... :lol:

I think I had you leaning for a second.

[redslastlaugh]

Scheierman has great feel/instincts, and I agree the defense post All Star was fine, but he has two question marks: is he going to be a +35% shooter and can he learn what is a good shot?

He takes so many truly bad shot selection shot attempts and you can't even say, "at least the shot looks good, even if they're not going in." I've never seen a "good" shooter look as bad on his misses as Baylor has at times, only rookie yr Aaron Nesmith, have I seen a "shooter" with zero apparent aim or touch on his jumpshot ... obviously, Nesmith has completely redeemed himself as a shooter after he left the Cs, but Baylor's jumper has just looked really bad at times

and lastly, Baylor is 25 before opening night, very old for a player starting his 2nd year, and that matters ... still almost surely we will pick up his option for next season before this October's deadline. But if he's shooting <33% again this season, I don't see how he lasts in the league

I'd like to see Baylor in a more uptempo system this year which I think could happen given our personnel. Near the end of the year, he seemed to earn more of Joe's trust with his defense. He just can't be used solely as a spot up shooter. He's not Sam Hauser and we shouldn't ask him to be that. He is absolutely a playmaker. Rebounds pretty well. There is a huge glut at backup wing this year. How he navigates that is gonna be one of the interesting stories for this team all year. Brad loves his big guards that can handle. Always has.

[Curmudgeon]

There's about a 5% chance that Scheierman becomes the white, left-handed Aaron Nesmith. That's his ceiling. I have more faith in Garza than I do in Scheierman.