Vucevic Trade Watch 2025

[Muzbar]

People are giving a lot of weight to Collins brief stint and uptick with the Bulls. Buying Vucevic out makes no sense to me. Free up a roster spot for who? 15th man? He's the best center on the team. People are really overexaggerating his slowness vs Collins or Smith. Or the idea that your center being slower keeps the rest of the team from running. Portland and Spurs did not start Collins for 6 years. His PER was 20 last year, btw, although that's one of the advanced stats that probably tossed in here.

Re: the bolded -

1) It's not about a roster spot, it's about giving Vooch's touches/shots to younger players you're trying to develop. Giddey and Coby are already going to eat up a ton of the usage on this team, so not having Vooch around means more opportunity for Matas, etc.

2) I think most of the board would not agree that Vooch is the best center on the team.

I think there may be some confusion (whether worded poorly or conveyed incorrectly) about Vuc.

I think it's the difference of "best center on the team" vs "best center for the team".

Overall talent wise, Vuc is very much the best center on the team, however there is a definite argument that Zach Collins and Jalen Smith are better fits for the team which then also opens up more touches for other players.

[dougthonus]

People are giving a lot of weight to Collins brief stint and uptick with the Bulls. Buying Vucevic out makes no sense to me. Free up a roster spot for who? 15th man? He's the best center on the team. People are really overexaggerating his slowness vs Collins or Smith. Or the idea that your center being slower keeps the rest of the team from running. Portland and Spurs did not start Collins for 6 years. His PER was 20 last year, btw, although that's one of the advanced stats that probably tossed in here.

Re: the bolded -

1) It's not about a roster spot, it's about giving Vooch's touches/shots to younger players you're trying to develop. Giddey and Coby are already going to eat up a ton of the usage on this team, so not having Vooch around means more opportunity for Matas, etc.

2) I think most of the board would not agree that Vooch is the best center on the team.

I think there may be some confusion (whether worded poorly or conveyed incorrectly) about Vuc.

I think it's the difference of "best center on the team" vs "best center for the team".

Overall talent wise, Vuc is very much the best center on the team, however there is a definite argument that Zach Collins and Jalen Smith are better fits for the team which then also opens up more touches for other players.

Another way to put this would be probably 29 other teams in the league think those same people are also better fits on those teams.

Vuc would be the best center of this grouping if the team wanted to run the offense through the center and have their center take a ton of shots. No team would view Vuc as good enough to do that though. So he would be the best in a highly prominent role, like if he was playing in a much lower level league where a team does think he's good enough to do that, but at this level, he's really not the best anywhere and is a bad fit everywhere.

[drosestruts]

Vuc w/ Giddey, White, Huerter, Buzelis: +5.3 in 134 minutes

Vuc w/ Giddey, White, and Buzelis: -10.3 in 258 minutes

Collins w/ Giddey, White, and Buzelis: +1.7 in 92 minutes

Unable to find a comparable lineup for Smith


Umm I'd say going into this I thought the lineup data would show Vuc as the clear winner. I'm surprised by how bad the 4-man lineup of Vuc with the other presumed starters performed in comparison to how well it performed when with Huerter. The majority of those other minutes with that group came with Ayo in place of Huerter and they were -40 in 61 minutes together.

A 45 point swing with playing Huerter in place of Ayo with the same group is kind of insane.

[MGB8]

Vuc w/ Giddey, White, Huerter, Buzelis: +5.3 in 134 minutes

Vuc w/ Giddey, White, and Buzelis: -10.3 in 258 minutes

Collins w/ Giddey, White, and Buzelis: +1.7 in 92 minutes

Unable to find a comparable lineup for Smith


Umm I'd say going into this I thought the lineup data would show Vuc as the clear winner. I'm surprised by how bad the 4-man lineup of Vuc with the other presumed starters performed in comparison to how well it performed when with Huerter. The majority of those other minutes with that group came with Ayo in place of Huerter and they were -40 in 61 minutes together.

A 45 point swing with playing Huerter in place of Ayo with the same group is kind of insane.

Probably less about Ayo and Huerter and more about the context when those minutes were occurring.

[drosestruts]

Vuc w/ Giddey, White, Huerter, Buzelis: +5.3 in 134 minutes

Vuc w/ Giddey, White, and Buzelis: -10.3 in 258 minutes

Collins w/ Giddey, White, and Buzelis: +1.7 in 92 minutes

Unable to find a comparable lineup for Smith


Umm I'd say going into this I thought the lineup data would show Vuc as the clear winner. I'm surprised by how bad the 4-man lineup of Vuc with the other presumed starters performed in comparison to how well it performed when with Huerter. The majority of those other minutes with that group came with Ayo in place of Huerter and they were -40 in 61 minutes together.

A 45 point swing with playing Huerter in place of Ayo with the same group is kind of insane.

Probably less about Ayo and Huerter and more about the context when those minutes were occurring.

I'm not so sure. I've always liked Ayo based on the eye test, but for four years in a row the team has been better when Ayo is on the bench.

At some point the numbers are hard to ignore

[MikeDC]

If cost were no issue and the team was trying to win and they could have their choice of adding Vuc or Collins for free for this year only, which teams would take Vuc and which would take Collins?

What would their role be?

• Teams that would take Vuc as a backup because they kind of need offense:
  CLE, MIL, DET, ORL, ATL, BRK, TOR, WAS, OKC, HOU, LAL, DEN, MIN, DAL, POR, SAS
• Teams that would take Vuc as a starter
  PHO?
• Teams that would take Collins as backup
  NYK, MIA, PHI, LAC, GSW, MEM, SAC, POR?
• Teams that would take Collins as starter
  Bos, IND, CHO, NOP, UTA

While if forced to chose, I think a lot of teams would take Vuc, I think the realistic answer is that several of these teams (SAS, POR, HOU, MEM, ORL, LAC, NOP) might just not take either of them if they were offered because they've already got a lot of options. And obviously several teams aren't actually trying to win (UTA, CHO, WAS, IND, BOS). Of the teams that are left, many couldn't afford to trade for them.

[Infinity2152]

I certainly wouldn't debate Vuc is the best center for this team right now. Most NBA teams are not in our position. Many have plenty of good defenders, rim protecting power forwards, etc. I disagree firmly whether most teams would take Collins or Smith over Vuc for roughly equivalent money. Those guys are literally career backups. There are a lot or personal feelings about Vuc that ignore the fact that he's started forever for two NBA teams averaging around 18 and 11 while Collins and Smith go from team to team and never start. Theres no evidence that teams would prefer Collins or Smith over Vuc at all.

People are kind of overreacting to the fact that he's had no offers. RFA's are taking the QO, teams are swallowing huge contracts to add a Myles Turner, and I'd expect teams to try to lowball us. We probably have received some lowball offers, but no teams have money and he's an unrestricted free agent next year, so no rush for other teams. Add in the fact that many teams lost their principal players (Tatum, Haliburton, etc) and are not really competitive, I think the market has as much to do with it as anything else. Far as I know, we haven't received calls on Collins or Smith either, plus a few centers were signed and traded this summer. Naz Reid and Myles Turner were options this summer for around the same money.

Asset wise too, there's no downside to keeping Vuc until the deadline if there are no solid offers now. Whether as part of a big trade package, cap clearing move for another, replacement for an injured center, there's value in holding Vuc to possibly get more assets. Biggest problem is the prevailing opinion Donovan won't play him with the second unit, but that's a Billy problem, not a Vucevic. For our team, he could be crazy valuable running with the second unit, we have no scoring there.

[sco]

I certainly wouldn't debate Vuc is the best center for this team right now. Most NBA teams are not in our position. Many have plenty of good defenders, rim protecting power forwards, etc. I disagree firmly whether most teams would take Collins or Smith over Vuc for roughly equivalent money. Those guys are literally career backups. There are a lot or personal feelings about Vuc that ignore the fact that he's started forever for two NBA teams averaging around 18 and 11 while Collins and Smith go from team to team and never start. Theres no evidence that teams would prefer Collins or Smith over Vuc at all.

People are kind of overreacting to the fact that he's had no offers. RFA's are taking the QO, teams are swallowing huge contracts to add a Myles Turner, and I'd expect teams to try to lowball us. We probably have received some lowball offers, but no teams have money and he's an unrestricted free agent next year, so no rush for other teams. Add in the fact that many teams lost their principal players (Tatum, Haliburton, etc) and are not really competitive, I think the market has as much to do with it as anything else. Far as I know, we haven't received calls on Collins or Smith either, plus a few centers were signed and traded this summer. Naz Reid and Myles Turner were options this summer for around the same money.

Asset wise too, there's no downside to keeping Vuc until the deadline if there are no solid offers now. Whether as part of a big trade package, cap clearing move for another, replacement for an injured center, there's value in holding Vuc to possibly get more assets. Biggest problem is the prevailing opinion Donovan won't play him with the second unit, but that's a Billy problem, not a Vucevic. For our team, he could be crazy valuable running with the second unit, we have no scoring there.

You may be right that Billy not playing him off the bench is a Billy problem, but we're stuck with Billy, so Vuc being here (where he'll 100% start) is a fan problem. Watching football today, I have my analogy for Vuc. He's a great running quarterback who cannot pass a lick. Arguments as to whether he's good or not, seem to depend on how important defense is to someone.

As of now, there are no teams who want Vuc given his contract. Next off season, we'll need to make a decision on Coby, and to me, a big part of that question is what this team looks like with a lot of good defense on the floor next to Coby and Giddey. Starting Vuc we are losing the insight that we otherwise could gain on that topic.

[Infinity2152]

I certainly wouldn't debate Vuc is the best center for this team right now. Most NBA teams are not in our position. Many have plenty of good defenders, rim protecting power forwards, etc. I disagree firmly whether most teams would take Collins or Smith over Vuc for roughly equivalent money. Those guys are literally career backups. There are a lot or personal feelings about Vuc that ignore the fact that he's started forever for two NBA teams averaging around 18 and 11 while Collins and Smith go from team to team and never start. Theres no evidence that teams would prefer Collins or Smith over Vuc at all.

People are kind of overreacting to the fact that he's had no offers. RFA's are taking the QO, teams are swallowing huge contracts to add a Myles Turner, and I'd expect teams to try to lowball us. We probably have received some lowball offers, but no teams have money and he's an unrestricted free agent next year, so no rush for other teams. Add in the fact that many teams lost their principal players (Tatum, Haliburton, etc) and are not really competitive, I think the market has as much to do with it as anything else. Far as I know, we haven't received calls on Collins or Smith either, plus a few centers were signed and traded this summer. Naz Reid and Myles Turner were options this summer for around the same money.

Asset wise too, there's no downside to keeping Vuc until the deadline if there are no solid offers now. Whether as part of a big trade package, cap clearing move for another, replacement for an injured center, there's value in holding Vuc to possibly get more assets. Biggest problem is the prevailing opinion Donovan won't play him with the second unit, but that's a Billy problem, not a Vucevic. For our team, he could be crazy valuable running with the second unit, we have no scoring there.

You may be right that Billy not playing him off the bench is a Billy problem, but we're stuck with Billy, so Vuc being here (where he'll 100% start) is a fan problem. Watching football today, I have my analogy for Vuc. He's a great running quarterback who cannot pass a lick. Arguments as to whether he's good or not, seem to depend on how important defense is to someone.

As of now, there are no teams who want Vuc given his contract. Next off season, we'll need to make a decision on Coby, and to me, a big part of that question is what this team looks like with a lot of good defense on the floor next to Coby and Giddey. Starting Vuc we are losing the insight that we otherwise could gain on that topic.

Again, where are the calls for Collin and Smith then? The same logic that applies to Vuc should apply to them. Myles Turner had one suitor, Naz Reid had none IIRC. They're younger and cheaper than Vuc, surely tradeable. Collins is expiring and nobody's calling for him. We're probably the only team that would consider starting Collins, lol. You're probably not getting great defense from those guys either, they are not paint protectors or shot blockers. In his career, Collins has played over 70 games once, and that's with bench minutes. Jalen Smith has never done it.

What are the odds either of those guys plays 50+ games if given starter minutes? Giddey played great with Vucevic, probably better than Collins or Smith. Where are the three pointers going to come from in a lineup of Giddey, White, Okoro, Matas, Collins? That offensive spacing will be horrible and three point volume and efficiency probably near the bottom of the league.

I would value the possible assets I could get waiting more than worrying about the fit with Giddey and Coby. They both played pretty damn good next to him offensively, that counts too. This idea that Zach Collins is an upgrade, nobody was saying that when we got him, and he's been in the league since 2017. We might as well say Giddey will maintain his second half numbers as well, if we're counting on Collins half season numbers. At least Giddey's young, makes sense he's improving but all I hear is it was only half a season. Same goes for Collins.

Given that there's no market for him now, it's either take a bad deal now, buy him out, or wait. We're not doing anything this year and half the team will be free agents anyway. Think guys are going to have to be patient. He has no reason to give up much in a buyout, and we'd have to use the money we save to sign a $4-$5 mill center worse than Vuc for the inevitable Collins injury.

[Infinity2152]

I could be completely out of bounds, but I think AK fully intends to make a big trade before the deadline. Vucevic will be the big money piece in that trade, and until someone shows me a center ranking where Zach Collins or Jalen Smith is above Vucevic, Vucevic likely has more value. We have way too many big expirings, the guy we should be trying to sell is Huerter. Shooters are always at a premium, he's expiring and I think his value is higher than it has been for years.

[HomoSapien]

I could be completely out of bounds, but I think AK fully intends to make a big trade before the deadline. Vucevic will be the big money piece in that trade, and until someone shows me a center ranking where Zach Collins or Jalen Smith is above Vucevic, Vucevic likely has more value. We have way too many big expirings, the guy we should be trying to sell is Huerter. Shooters are always at a premium, he's expiring and I think his value is higher than it has been for years.

We'll have the pieces to pull off a move, IMO. Lots of expiring contracts, and some young players on inexpensive deals (although Coby/Ayo are both expiring). You never know.

[pipfan]

I agree-we're in a great position for a big trade. We have tons of expiring deals, all of our picks plus the Port pick and some attractive pieces.

Will we? Who knows, tough to say right now.

I think we run Vuc out now, and hope his good shooting last year continues. MAYBE a post deadline buyout, if we're below .500-save a bit of $ and play Smith more

[dougthonus]

If cost were no issue and the team was trying to win and they could have their choice of adding Vuc or Collins for free for this year only, which teams would take Vuc and which would take Collins?

What would their role be?

• Teams that would take Vuc as a backup because they kind of need offense:
  CLE, MIL, DET, ORL, ATL, BRK, TOR, WAS, OKC, HOU, LAL, DEN, MIN, DAL, POR, SAS
• Teams that would take Vuc as a starter
  PHO?
• Teams that would take Collins as backup
  NYK, MIA, PHI, LAC, GSW, MEM, SAC, POR?
• Teams that would take Collins as starter
  Bos, IND, CHO, NOP, UTA

While if forced to chose, I think a lot of teams would take Vuc, I think the realistic answer is that several of these teams (SAS, POR, HOU, MEM, ORL, LAC, NOP) might just not take either of them if they were offered because they've already got a lot of options. And obviously several teams aren't actually trying to win (UTA, CHO, WAS, IND, BOS). Of the teams that are left, many couldn't afford to trade for them.

It's somewhat unknowable, but I question if any of those teams that "want offense" would really trust Vuc enough to want his offense. My belief is "no", but no real way to check and given nothing will happen prior to the deadline, you can probably draw a straight line to whether Vuc has any value based on how well he shoots between now and then.

[sco]

I could be completely out of bounds, but I think AK fully intends to make a big trade before the deadline. Vucevic will be the big money piece in that trade, and until someone shows me a center ranking where Zach Collins or Jalen Smith is above Vucevic, Vucevic likely has more value. We have way too many big expirings, the guy we should be trying to sell is Huerter. Shooters are always at a premium, he's expiring and I think his value is higher than it has been for years.

We'll have the pieces to pull off a move, IMO. Lots of expiring contracts, and some young players on inexpensive deals (although Coby/Ayo are both expiring). You never know.

Goes back to my point about starting Smith over Vuc to see how well a Giddey/White/Okoro/Buzelis/Smith line-up works to begin the season. It may be the case that it works great or works terrible, but the key, IMO is seeing this before the deadline to help decide whether to include Coby in a big trade. Coby probably has good value and if his defense, coupled with Giddey's with Smith and Okoro starting is a problem, depending on who we could get in trade, he may be good to include before overpaying. Conversely, if that group is good defensively, then we can spend our assets on an upgrade elsewhere.

[kodo]

I think AK would rather just have Vuc expire to maximize cap space. All signs are that he intends on being a player in FA in 2026, and he's already hurt that a bit by trading Lonzo's expiring for Okoro and resigning Tre. Trading Vuc for a non-expiring player and the Bulls aren't 2026 buyers anymore.

If Vuc were traded for a $22M player, and Coby resigned for $35M, my napkin math has us with $22M cap space next summer not a max. 7 year max starts at $49.6M in 2026. And this is renouncing cap holds on Ayo, Huerter, Collins.

If Vuc were traded, that's pretty much the last big move for this iteration of the Bulls, we're done.
Mid draft pick. Mid team. Not enough cap space for a max player. Enough cap space to get more of what we keep collecting, ~$20M players.

Of course there's far more space if they don't sign Coby, but as far as I can see he's one of the best FAs available in 26 in his age range.

[dougthonus]

Vuc w/ Giddey, White, Huerter, Buzelis: +5.3 in 134 minutes

Vuc w/ Giddey, White, and Buzelis: -10.3 in 258 minutes

Collins w/ Giddey, White, and Buzelis: +1.7 in 92 minutes

Unable to find a comparable lineup for Smith


Umm I'd say going into this I thought the lineup data would show Vuc as the clear winner. I'm surprised by how bad the 4-man lineup of Vuc with the other presumed starters performed in comparison to how well it performed when with Huerter. The majority of those other minutes with that group came with Ayo in place of Huerter and they were -40 in 61 minutes together.

A 45 point swing with playing Huerter in place of Ayo with the same group is kind of insane.

Those minute numbers are way too small for any of this to be more than random noise. I'm not a huge +/- guy, but here's Vuc's net ratings of full seasons since he has been here:
Guys in parenthesis had worse numbers (1k minutes minimum), other centers listed:

24-25: -2 (Coby, Pat, Ayo), Smith +.4, Collins +6.6
23-24: -6.3 (Craig), Drummond +3.4
22-23: -8.1 (Pat), Drummond +2.1
21-22: -3.7 (Ayo), Bradley +9.5, Thompson +1.1
20-21: -4.2 (WCJ, Theis, Pat), WCJ -8 (partial season)

The only year he outperformed a single center on the roster was WCJ the year we traded for him (and they were effectively not on the same roster ever). I didn't list all the scrub centers with 300 minutes or less, but they also all have better numbers than Vuc.

I'm not a big believer in +/-, especially in short durations and in small sample sizes. It fundamentally is not a causation stat. However, Vuc and Pat are the only long tenured Bulls that have been consistently horrific (Ayo is not far off this metric either). Consistently horrific enough to say there is probably something bigger going on there.

[MikeDC]

If cost were no issue and the team was trying to win and they could have their choice of adding Vuc or Collins for free for this year only, which teams would take Vuc and which would take Collins?

What would their role be?

• Teams that would take Vuc as a backup because they kind of need offense:
  CLE, MIL, DET, ORL, ATL, BRK, TOR, WAS, OKC, HOU, LAL, DEN, MIN, DAL, POR, SAS
• Teams that would take Vuc as a starter
  PHO?
• Teams that would take Collins as backup
  NYK, MIA, PHI, LAC, GSW, MEM, SAC, POR?
• Teams that would take Collins as starter
  Bos, IND, CHO, NOP, UTA

While if forced to chose, I think a lot of teams would take Vuc, I think the realistic answer is that several of these teams (SAS, POR, HOU, MEM, ORL, LAC, NOP) might just not take either of them if they were offered because they've already got a lot of options. And obviously several teams aren't actually trying to win (UTA, CHO, WAS, IND, BOS). Of the teams that are left, many couldn't afford to trade for them.

It's somewhat unknowable, but I question if any of those teams that "want offense" would really trust Vuc enough to want his offense. My belief is "no", but no real way to check and given nothing will happen prior to the deadline, you can probably draw a straight line to whether Vuc has any value based on how well he shoots between now and then.

Vuc's value as a player is never going to exceed his value as an expiring contract. And that only has value if the Bulls are willing to absorb longer term money, which they don't seem to be, even though it'd probably be one of their better uses of upcoming cap space to acquire some picks.

The easy way to think about this is to think about the fact that if I team wanted a guy like Vuc, they could go sign Thomas Bryant right now for $2M instead of having to trade away ~$20M of current players to get Vuc.

Is Vuc better than Thomas Bryant? I'm sure he is, but he's not 10x better and that's not even accounting for the fact they'd have to trade away other guys they like.

So the only way Vuc is getting traded is if we take back guys another team doesn't actually want. And in that case, they have to want those guys gone so badly they'll give us picks to get rid of them. In that case, Vuc as a potentialy useful player on expiring salary might make it more palatable, but it's likely secondary to the underlying financial motivations.

[2weekswithpay]

I certainly wouldn't debate Vuc is the best center for this team right now. Most NBA teams are not in our position. Many have plenty of good defenders, rim protecting power forwards, etc. I disagree firmly whether most teams would take Collins or Smith over Vuc for roughly equivalent money. Those guys are literally career backups. There are a lot or personal feelings about Vuc that ignore the fact that he's started forever for two NBA teams averaging around 18 and 11 while Collins and Smith go from team to team and never start. Theres no evidence that teams would prefer Collins or Smith over Vuc at all.

People are kind of overreacting to the fact that he's had no offers. RFA's are taking the QO, teams are swallowing huge contracts to add a Myles Turner, and I'd expect teams to try to lowball us. We probably have received some lowball offers, but no teams have money and he's an unrestricted free agent next year, so no rush for other teams. Add in the fact that many teams lost their principal players (Tatum, Haliburton, etc) and are not really competitive, I think the market has as much to do with it as anything else. Far as I know, we haven't received calls on Collins or Smith either, plus a few centers were signed and traded this summer. Naz Reid and Myles Turner were options this summer for around the same money.

Asset wise too, there's no downside to keeping Vuc until the deadline if there are no solid offers now. Whether as part of a big trade package, cap clearing move for another, replacement for an injured center, there's value in holding Vuc to possibly get more assets. Biggest problem is the prevailing opinion Donovan won't play him with the second unit, but that's a Billy problem, not a Vucevic. For our team, he could be crazy valuable running with the second unit, we have no scoring there.

You may be right that Billy not playing him off the bench is a Billy problem, but we're stuck with Billy, so Vuc being here (where he'll 100% start) is a fan problem. Watching football today, I have my analogy for Vuc. He's a great running quarterback who cannot pass a lick. Arguments as to whether he's good or not, seem to depend on how important defense is to someone.

As of now, there are no teams who want Vuc given his contract. Next off season, we'll need to make a decision on Coby, and to me, a big part of that question is what this team looks like with a lot of good defense on the floor next to Coby and Giddey. Starting Vuc we are losing the insight that we otherwise could gain on that topic.

Again, where are the calls for Collin and Smith then? The same logic that applies to Vuc should apply to them. Myles Turner had one suitor, Naz Reid had none IIRC. They're younger and cheaper than Vuc, surely tradeable. Collins is expiring and nobody's calling for him. We're probably the only team that would consider starting Collins, lol. You're probably not getting great defense from those guys either, they are not paint protectors or shot blockers. In his career, Collins has played over 70 games once, and that's with bench minutes. Jalen Smith has never done it.

What are the odds either of those guys plays 50+ games if given starter minutes? Giddey played great with Vucevic, probably better than Collins or Smith. Where are the three pointers going to come from in a lineup of Giddey, White, Okoro, Matas, Collins? That offensive spacing will be horrible and three point volume and efficiency probably near the bottom of the league.

I would value the possible assets I could get waiting more than worrying about the fit with Giddey and Coby. They both played pretty damn good next to him offensively, that counts too. This idea that Zach Collins is an upgrade, nobody was saying that when we got him, and he's been in the league since 2017. We might as well say Giddey will maintain his second half numbers as well, if we're counting on Collins half season numbers. At least Giddey's young, makes sense he's improving but all I hear is it was only half a season. Same goes for Collins.

Given that there's no market for him now, it's either take a bad deal now, buy him out, or wait. We're not doing anything this year and half the team will be free agents anyway. Think guys are going to have to be patient. He has no reason to give up much in a buyout, and we'd have to use the money we save to sign a $4-$5 mill center worse than Vuc for the inevitable Collins injury.

Naz Reid never hit free agency. He signed a new contract with the Wolves a day or two before. Turner got the deal he wanted from the Bucks and signed after they cut Lillard.

The pairings of Giddey + Collins and Giddey + Smith outplayed Giddey + Vuc. Small sample size, but lineups with Vuc haven't been good in his time as a Bull. The Bulls' 3PAr with Collins is 0.444, with Smith 0.495, and with Vuc 0.442. The spacing argument holds up with Collins, but the 3pt volume didn't change much last season.

[The Box Office]

Vooch is our Tank Commander.

[meekrab]

I have two questions, who are we targeting in these hypothetical midseason trades and who are we targeting in free agency with all that cap space? I don't see any difference makers being available for Heurter Vuc and our eternal late lottery picks, and Coby himself is already the most intriguing free agent of next summer, unless we want to gamble a bunch of money on Porzingis? Or hope Eason doesn't already sign an extension in Houston?