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Re: FIBA Mamu @ Eurobasket 

Post#41 » by ConSarnit » Tue Sep 9, 2025 5:34 pm

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He's got a breakout to do before he's even on Kelly's level. He does have the more aesthetic game, and they play the same type of roll, he's just never proven anything in this league yet the way Kelly has. Would be nice to see him breakout and actually become that upgraded version. Kelly is probably cooked at this point, but he's a been a proven role player for really good teams in his career.


Upgrade on what Kelly provided for us as a Raptor / maybe not the career highs as of Kelly

Kelly has gotten this really weird bad rep as a Raptor when he was the exact same player he has been his entire career.

Dude gave us 17/8/6 on 63TS% as a backup big playing mostly with scrubs. IDK why people act like he was so bad here. He just became the whipping boy for some reason despite being a more than adequate bench player.

Mamu likely won't be as good as Kelly was, unless he comes in a much better defender than advertised.


Olynyk has fallen off from his prime, especially on the defensive end. Not that he was ever even an average defender but during his time here he was atrocious (bottom 3 bigman level). I think part of the idea was that Barnes could cover for him but Barnes hasn’t shown the full ability to do that (yet). In his prime Olynyk was a 6th man. He’s now probably a 9th-10th man. Combine that with our inability to cover for him defensively (he absolutely cannot play the 5) and the Olynyk experiment went pretty poorly.

Mamu would have to be terrible defensively to give us less than KO. Now, given his rep that might be the way it plays out. I’d give Mamu a 50/50 shot at actually being in the regular rotation. We don’t need much, just a guy who won’t get absolutely destroyed at the defensive end. Hoping Mamu can evolve into that.
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Re: FIBA Mamu @ Eurobasket 

Post#42 » by YogurtProducer » Tue Sep 9, 2025 6:45 pm

ConSarnit wrote:Olynyk has fallen off from his prime, especially on the defensive end. Not that he was ever even an average defender but during his time here he was atrocious (bottom 3 bigman level). I think part of the idea was that Barnes could cover for him but Barnes hasn’t shown the full ability to do that (yet). In his prime Olynyk was a 6th man. He’s now probably a 9th-10th man. Combine that with our inability to cover for him defensively (he absolutely cannot play the 5) and the Olynyk experiment went pretty poorly.

Mamu would have to be terrible defensively to give us less than KO. Now, given his rep that might be the way it plays out. I’d give Mamu a 50/50 shot at actually being in the regular rotation. We don’t need much, just a guy who won’t get absolutely destroyed at the defensive end. Hoping Mamu can evolve into that.

I just fundamentally disagree. He was a huge positive offensively, and defensively we really did not see a drop off. He obviously is far from a good defensive player, but against bench guys he really didn't see an issue

Olynyk as a 9th-10th man sounds right. Mamu has not even been that in his career, so I would actually expect less from Mamu tbh. Not that is a slight at him or anything, but he realistically is not likely to be a rotation piece.
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Re: FIBA Mamu @ Eurobasket 

Post#43 » by shmoosicle » Tue Sep 9, 2025 7:02 pm

I'm in Lithuania on vacation, I decided to catch the game vs Greece on a public screen, there's a big crowd here at a former prison. Excited to see Valanciunas play well and hoping for a Lithuania win
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Post#45 » by Jstock12 » Thu Sep 11, 2025 12:36 pm

PF/C version of Linas Kleiza
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Re: FIBA Mamu @ Eurobasket 

Post#46 » by youngRAPZ » Thu Sep 11, 2025 7:36 pm

Jstock12 wrote:PF/C version of Linas Kleiza

As long as it’s Denver Kleiza I’ll be happy. But I think he will be our new Garbo.


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Post#47 » by Kobe Anunoby » Thu Sep 11, 2025 7:47 pm

Jstock12 wrote:PF/C version of Linas Kleiza


PF/C version of Raptors Norman Powell Lite
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Post#48 » by Jstock12 » Fri Sep 12, 2025 6:41 am

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Jstock12 wrote:PF/C version of Linas Kleiza

As long as it’s Denver Kleiza I’ll be happy. But I think he will be our new Garbo.
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Yeah I meant the best version of Kleiza from Denver when he was still playing that power game. As a Lithuanian it's what Mamukelashvili reminds me of. Problem with Kleiza was also that he was a bit of a tweener, too small to play against the PFs of those times, and too slow for the SFs. And the knee injury completely ruined him and turned him into a jumpshooter. Mamukelashvili doesn't have that problem. The swing skill for Mamu will be the 3pt shot. If he can knock it down, he'll stay in the NBA for sure.
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Re: FIBA Mamu @ Eurobasket 

Post#49 » by Brinbe » Sat Sep 13, 2025 12:19 pm

our boy did well

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Post#50 » by DreamTeam09 » Sat Sep 13, 2025 2:30 pm

Brinbe wrote:our boy did well



If he was a little bigger/better he'd be like Naz Reid, a big with handles and a nice face up game who can handle the ball on the perimeter a little. He's probably a better passer
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Re: FIBA Mamu @ Eurobasket 

Post#51 » by LiSTWithLani » Wed Sep 17, 2025 7:02 pm

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Brinbe wrote:our boy did well



If he was a little bigger/better he'd be like Naz Reid, a big with handles and a nice face up game who can handle the ball on the perimeter a little. He's probably a better passer


I believe Naz to be a very good defender. He uses his feet to slide with smaller players well, from memory.

shmoosicle wrote:I'm in Lithuania on vacation, I decided to catch the game vs Greece on a public screen, there's a big crowd here at a former prison. Excited to see Valanciunas play well and hoping for a Lithuania win


Sorry, to clarify, you're on vacation at a former Latvian prison, watching Lithuania facing Greece in EuroBasket? That is a wild move man, love it!
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Re: FIBA Mamu @ Eurobasket 

Post#52 » by shmoosicle » Thu Sep 18, 2025 12:25 am

LiSTWithLani wrote:
DreamTeam09 wrote:
Brinbe wrote:our boy did well



If he was a little bigger/better he'd be like Naz Reid, a big with handles and a nice face up game who can handle the ball on the perimeter a little. He's probably a better passer


I believe Naz to be a very good defender. He uses his feet to slide with smaller players well, from memory.

shmoosicle wrote:I'm in Lithuania on vacation, I decided to catch the game vs Greece on a public screen, there's a big crowd here at a former prison. Excited to see Valanciunas play well and hoping for a Lithuania win


Sorry, to clarify, you're on vacation at a former Latvian prison, watching Lithuania facing Greece in EuroBasket? That is a wild move man, love it!

I was on vacation in the Baltics, back home now :) I was in Riga as well but that night I was in Vilnius, Lithuania where they turned a prison into a cultural center (Lukiškės Prison - apparently they shot a season of Stranger Things there too). So - huge screen in the outdoor courtyard but a bit hard to see because all the Lithuanians are like 7ft tall. But it was packed and a cool atmosphere to watch the game. Unfortunately Lithuania was behind the whole game so the crowd wasn't as pumped as it could have been. Cool experience though! And all 3 Baltic states were really nice.
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Re: FIBA Mamu @ Eurobasket 

Post#53 » by LiSTWithLani » Fri Sep 19, 2025 4:47 pm

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shmoosicle wrote:I'm in Lithuania on vacation, I decided to catch the game vs Greece on a public screen, there's a big crowd here at a former prison. Excited to see Valanciunas play well and hoping for a Lithuania win


Sorry, to clarify, you're on vacation at a former Latvian prison, watching Lithuania facing Greece in EuroBasket? That is a wild move man, love it!

I was on vacation in the Baltics, back home now :) I was in Riga as well but that night I was in Vilnius, Lithuania where they turned a prison into a cultural center (Lukiškės Prison - apparently they shot a season of Stranger Things there too). So - huge screen in the outdoor courtyard but a bit hard to see because all the Lithuanians are like 7ft tall. But it was packed and a cool atmosphere to watch the game. Unfortunately Lithuania was behind the whole game so the crowd wasn't as pumped as it could have been. Cool experience though! And all 3 Baltic states were really nice.


Yeah man, that's way cool. Good for you, glad to hear that you had such a unique experience.
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