2025 Offseason Thread Vol.6

[insfo]

Bam better not ruin this tank season. He needs to get a mysterious injury too and miss significant time.

Nah, this is Bam’s year. Should have all the touches and shots he can handle, and should be an early leader on the MVP boards if the Heat manage to string some wins together. It’s all about narratives these days, so this is the perfect chance for him to make some inroads into the EOY awards.

Legggggoooo Bam!!!

[3ammy3uck3ts]

If Bam isn’t the 1st option getting 17-18 shots a night trade him.

Im wondering if the FO will stay level headed with a lot of likely losing to start the year with the bigger picture of the schedule in mind or if they will react emotionally. My guess is they won’t do anything but several teams are waiting for a Bam trade, it won’t be hard to get better value for Norman than you sent out from him and he and Wiggins are both big expirings where you could take on same long term money for assets if we ever decide to go that route (I know we won’t). Will be interesting to see how it all plays out. If Norman busts his ass defensively and Jovic uses his size right we may not have a single negative defender in the rotation. That alone can win you some grind it out games.

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Doesn’t matter if he is on the team or off he is not going to get playing time. I think the NBA should allow a rule for a team to dump the contract of one player per year without any further compensation required, as long as it leads to proportionality reduced ticket prices. Let’s use Rozier as an example:

$26,643,031 - Rozier salary
Divided by
41 home games
Divided by
19,600 max seating capacity
Equals

~$33.15 per ticket per game in savings.

For a family of four that over $120 saved PER GAME.

Save money for the fans.

[Daffy]

I wonder if they low-key intentionally had Herro put off the surgery to start off on a tank. Unfortunately unless Bam misses time as well we won't fall low enough in the standings for a successful tank.

In such a weakened East a lineup with Bam, Wiggins and Powell (if he continues scoring the way he has) will still be middle or a slightly below middle of the pack team. We can also expect improvements from Jovic, Ware, and Pelle.

[Daffy]

I also can't see this team throwing in the flag before seeing what Bam and Herro can do with that third scorer in Powell and a full offseason of Wiggins looks like.

[Voltron914]

what would Spo have to unlock in Wiggins to have us pointing out as proof that he is a better coach than Kerr? more PPG or an efficient all around game with great defense?

I don't know what Spo has planned. But Wiggins came in at the end of Summer to meet and train with Spo. Since then the Heats tune has changed in regards to Wiggins. And I really doubt Wiggins and Spo been training to just for Wiggins to learn how to play the same role he has played the past 5 years.

We better hope that his role will be the same, because it's not like he's some frustrated star waiting to blossom at age 30. No one has been holding him back. He was drafted to be a star, and he proved that he wasn't built for it. That's how he ended up a complementary player.

This kind of smells like the Heat trying to prove that we won the Butler trade.

Isnt it fair to say that Spo unlocked something in Jimmy in his 30s because he accomplished the most in his career with us. Wiggins is more athletic and accomplished more than jimmy before coming here so its not that far fetched

[Kobewade11]

Canes gonna have to hold it dine for the 305 until Christmas

[3ammy3uck3ts]

I don't know what Spo has planned. But Wiggins came in at the end of Summer to meet and train with Spo. Since then the Heats tune has changed in regards to Wiggins. And I really doubt Wiggins and Spo been training to just for Wiggins to learn how to play the same role he has played the past 5 years.

We better hope that his role will be the same, because it's not like he's some frustrated star waiting to blossom at age 30. No one has been holding him back. He was drafted to be a star, and he proved that he wasn't built for it. That's how he ended up a complementary player.

This kind of smells like the Heat trying to prove that we won the Butler trade.

Isnt it fair to say that Spo unlocked something in Jimmy in his 30s because he accomplished the most in his career with us. Wiggins is more athletic and accomplished more than jimmy before coming here so its not that far fetched

Wiggins has never been near the level of pre Miami Jimmy

[Tim_Hardawayy]

Well I'll try to take the optimistic take here. First, if you wanted a tank, this is step 1.

Second, this adds to the "Herro injury prone" narrative, which means if you possibly wanted to keep him, it might knock his contract demands down a peg (though if you want to move him, it makes it harder to get value for him, so maybe a wash).

Third, this really gives Bam a chance to show out as a lead guy. Do I think that's what he's suited for? Probably not, but we have seen stranger things. He's young enough and skilled enough that I won't rule it out completely, and if it just "clicked" for him this year, how great would that be?

Fourth, it opens up minutes for the guys we have to decide on (JJJ, Jovic, JK etc). No they don't all play the same positions, but its wing minutes which in the modern NBA is somewhat interchangeable.

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8 weeks for Tyler

8 weeks from now or 8 weeks of the season?

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8 weeks from now or 8 weeks of the season?

From today, mid November is their projection so 14-16 games out at minimum

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[al bondiga]

spo Coaching job has to be incredible from the beginning, not only in the playoffs

He’s burnt out man. For perspective, he is the longest tenured coach in the NBA. For additonal perspective, Pat Riley served as head coach for the Lakers from 1979 - 1990, then as head coach for the Knicks through 1995 and was burnt out with both teams. That is 16 seasons. Spo is entering his 17th season, having assumed the head coach role in 2008. Not to mention all the hours he spent as an assistant starting in 1995.

No human is capable of the high level of output required to be a head coach of the same team for so many years, other than maybe Poppovich who had years of david robinson, tim duncan, and other greats helping him out.

The Heat need to have an intervention and give that dude a season to reset. Come back hungry. Not just going through the motions with a team that may be a 6th seed at best and go no where.

In my opinion spo is so past overdue for a break that It doesn't make any sense anymore to give him one.

By now Everybody has figured out he's An obsessed workaholic...even the F.O. And
Owners take advantage of this... The thing is that spo LOVES it I think

Being viewed this way might be the reason for waking up ... for him...

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[marson]

Norman Powell could really take advantage of this opportunity imo. If he plays well and helps us secure plenty of wins, he could earn an extension.

Herro’s fragility is starting to show, skip the extension for now.