2025 Offseason Thread Vol.6

[eddieheatfan]

Norman Powell could really take advantage of this opportunity imo. If he plays well and helps us secure plenty of wins, he could earn an extension.

Herro’s fragility is starting to show, skip the extension for now.

it showed two- three seasons ago bro. i'm tempted to lower my predictions in lieu of this new info further

[marson]

Norman Powell could really take advantage of this opportunity imo. If he plays well and helps us secure plenty of wins, he could earn an extension.

Herro’s fragility is starting to show, skip the extension for now.

it showed two- three seasons ago bro. i'm tempted to lower my predictions in lieu of this new info further

Played 77 games last season and showed improvement tbf. But now it feels like we're back to square one.

[Enso]

This could be a blessing and force others to develop/ step up. Trade herro for ja once he comes back.

[marson]

This could be a blessing and force others to develop/ step up. Trade herro for ja once he comes back.

Kaspa and Dru will have playing time if Davion will start.

[VaDe255]

If the reporting is accurate this is my read on the situation:
- 8 weeks is the standard recovery window for a minor ankle cleanup
- The procedure is basically to remove whatever’s causing the “pinching” and the timetable is mostly precautionary, it’s about making sure it heals right and avoiding chronic damage that would come from trying to play through it

Might be back for the 3rd game vs NY at home on 18th November, by then they might already be at 4-9 record or smth. like that based on schedule.
This is where a 5 games in 7 days strech begins also.

These things could easily last up to 10 weeks (early December maybe vs LA return).
The super optimistic timetable would be 6 weeks, the absolute minimum (back at around Nov 8 vs Charlotte at home when they are back from their road trip).

I'd still expect the extension to happen, maybe they have more leverage for a team option on the 3rd year, if they project lingering injury concerns

[He2Fast]

How do we feel/what do we think about a Davion/Wiggins/Niko/Bam/Ware lineup?

I’m not suggesting they start together, but more so as a collective 5. That’s an interesting group to me.

Defense looks pretty good, the shooting isn’t abhorrent, Bam plays alongside plenty of size, and Niko (theoretically) gets to have the ball more often.

[twix2500]

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Can Larsson compete for the starting guard position until Herro is ready?

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Can Larsson compete for the starting guard position until Herro is ready?

No.

[SA37]

This makes Spo's life a bit easier since it cleans up the rotation for him

Ware / Achiuwa??
Bam / Jovic
Wiggins / Fontecchio / Jaquez
Powell / Larsson
Mitchell / Dru Smith

Assuming Miami is done trying to make Rozier work, Miami might want to bring back Josh Richardson or Delon Wright if Smith nor Jaquez prove they can handle the backup PG duties.

Miami really lacks a scorer off the bench, so perhaps this will push Miami to bring back Alec Burks, who I thought for sure was going to be back.

[twix2500]

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Can Larsson compete for the starting guard position until Herro is ready?

No.

Explain why not please sir

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Can Larsson compete for the starting guard position until Herro is ready?

No.

Explain why not please sir

Because he's a second year player that averaged 4.5 ppg last season and hasn't shown that he can carry any kind of load. And also because there are better options. If we were tanking, then yeah. But if we're trying to win, he's a back end of the rotation guy.

[contract]

This makes Spo's life a bit easier since it cleans up the rotation for him

Ware / Achiuwa??
Bam / Jovic
Wiggins / Fontecchio / Jaquez
Powell / Larsson
Mitchell / Dru Smith

Assuming Miami is done trying to make Rozier work, Miami might want to bring back Josh Richardson or Delon Wright if Smith nor Jaquez prove they can handle the backup PG duties.

Miami really lacks a scorer off the bench, so perhaps this will push Miami to bring back Alec Burks, who I thought for sure was going to be back.

I can't think of a good reason to not give Rozier a chance to compete for that job. He's on our cap one way or another.

[3ammy3uck3ts]

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Can Larsson compete for the starting guard position until Herro is ready?

No.

Explain why not please sir

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He’ll be fighting for that backup 2 spot which he will likely get unless I’m forgetting someone but there’s no argument to start him over Davion Powell or Wiggins.

[twix2500]

No.

Explain why not please sir

Because he's a second year player that averaged 4.5 ppg last season and hasn't shown that he can carry any kind of load. And also because there are better options. If we were tanking, If we were tanking, then yeah. But if we're trying to win, he a back end of the rotation guy.

I didn't say to give him the job but to let him compete for the job. Here is my reason why:

1. Because he is a four-year college player, there's a good chance his learning curve is faster than most second-year players, like Duncan and Max. Like most jobs in general, you expect the learning curve to be faster with a college graduate versus a non-college graduate. There should be a faster learning curve expectation than Ware and Jovic when they were drafted.

2. The Heat gave Larsson point guard responsibilities this summer with the coaches. That learning curve can continue with veteran players alongside him. Larsson is a more versatile player than Mitchell, which makes it easier for Powell and Wiggins to focus on carrying the scoring load.

3. I think Larsson is a better physical talent than Mitchell. Which is one of the reasons I think it’s a chance he is a better complement to Powell and Wiggins. I believe he has better vision and passing skills than Mitchell and will distribute the ball to Bam, Powell, Ware and Wiggins better than Mitchell. Larsson can defend 1 through 4 that helps lessen the load on Bam, Wiggins and Powell so they can focus on scoring.

Larsson is also potentially a better screen setter and off ball mover to help play off of Powell, Wiggins and Bam. Mitchell primary area of effectiveness is kind of restricted at the top of the three-point line. Larsson can be moved around a lot to compensate Wiggins, Bam and Powell.

4. The similarity in game is closer between Larsson and Herro than it is between Mitchell and Herro, so theoretically, Spo will be less likely to have to implement a different scheme when Herro is out versus when Herro returns. Maintaining consistency makes the transition easier.

5. It is likely safer to play Jakucionis along with Mitchell than it is to play Jakucionis with Larsson.

[twix2500]

This makes Spo's life a bit easier since it cleans up the rotation for him

Ware / Achiuwa??
Bam / Jovic
Wiggins / Fontecchio / Jaquez
Powell / Larsson
Mitchell / Dru Smith

Assuming Miami is done trying to make Rozier work, Miami might want to bring back Josh Richardson or Delon Wright if Smith nor Jaquez prove they can handle the backup PG duties.

Miami really lacks a scorer off the bench, so perhaps this will push Miami to bring back Alec Burks, who I thought for sure was going to be back.

I can't think of a good reason to not give Rozier a chance to compete for that job. He's on our cap one way or another.

I thought about this too, but the amount of rumors that the Heat are not even trying to have Rozier in camp is alarming. Did the Heat PR team ever mention him working out with the Heat at all this summer? I am trying to scroll through Heat media to see any mentions of Rozier

[SA37]

This makes Spo's life a bit easier since it cleans up the rotation for him

Ware / Achiuwa??
Bam / Jovic
Wiggins / Fontecchio / Jaquez
Powell / Larsson
Mitchell / Dru Smith

Assuming Miami is done trying to make Rozier work, Miami might want to bring back Josh Richardson or Delon Wright if Smith nor Jaquez prove they can handle the backup PG duties.

Miami really lacks a scorer off the bench, so perhaps this will push Miami to bring back Alec Burks, who I thought for sure was going to be back.

I can't think of a good reason to not give Rozier a chance to compete for that job. He's on our cap one way or another.

I thought about this too, but the amount of rumors that the Heat are not even trying to have Rozier in camp is alarming. Did the Heat PR team ever mention him working out with the Heat at all this summer? I am trying to scroll through Heat media to see any mentions of Rozier

I don't know where Miami stands with Rozier, but at least while Herro is out, Rozier slides perfectly in as the scoring punch coming off the bench. I'm not sure Larsson or Dru Smith are ready for heavy minutes over an extended period. It isn't a lack of talent, but usually young players lack the consistency. Even if they both play ahead of Rozier, Rozier is an insurance policy until Herro gets back.

If Miami has no intentions of using Rozier, then I think Miami would be wise to bring in a vet like Josh Richardson, Delon Wright, or Alec Burks. And I think Miami needs to sign Achiuwa or some big as an insurance policy for the frontcourt.

Not sure how much wiggle room Miami has financially.

[eddieheatfan]

I can't think of a good reason to not give Rozier a chance to compete for that job. He's on our cap one way or another.

I thought about this too, but the amount of rumors that the Heat are not even trying to have Rozier in camp is alarming. Did the Heat PR team ever mention him working out with the Heat at all this summer? I am trying to scroll through Heat media to see any mentions of Rozier

I don't know where Miami stands with Rozier, but at least while Herro is out, Rozier slides perfectly in as the scoring punch coming off the bench. I'm not sure Larsson or Dru Smith are ready for heavy minutes over an extended period. It isn't a lack of talent, but usually young players lack the consistency. Even if they both play ahead of Rozier, Rozier is an insurance policy until Herro gets back.

If Miami has no intentions of using Rozier, then I think Miami would be wise to bring in a vet like Josh Richardson, Delon Wright, or Alec Burks. And I think Miami needs to sign Achiuwa or some big as an insurance policy for the frontcourt.

Not sure how much wiggle room Miami has financially.

[SA37]

I thought about this too, but the amount of rumors that the Heat are not even trying to have Rozier in camp is alarming. Did the Heat PR team ever mention him working out with the Heat at all this summer? I am trying to scroll through Heat media to see any mentions of Rozier

I don't know where Miami stands with Rozier, but at least while Herro is out, Rozier slides perfectly in as the scoring punch coming off the bench. I'm not sure Larsson or Dru Smith are ready for heavy minutes over an extended period. It isn't a lack of talent, but usually young players lack the consistency. Even if they both play ahead of Rozier, Rozier is an insurance policy until Herro gets back.

If Miami has no intentions of using Rozier, then I think Miami would be wise to bring in a vet like Josh Richardson, Delon Wright, or Alec Burks. And I think Miami needs to sign Achiuwa or some big as an insurance policy for the frontcourt.

Not sure how much wiggle room Miami has financially.

Of course.

If there is one thing Rozier has proven in the NBA, it is that he can score the basketball. We all have short memories, but I know how high a lot of people on these boards were after Rozier was acquired and he averaged 16-4-4 in 31 minutes at the end of the 23-24 season.

Rozier had his worst season last year since 18-19 when he played in 79 games for Boston and averaged 9-4-3 in 22mpg. The following season he went to Charlotte and averaged 18-4-4 while shooting 41 3pt%.

Rozier is a flawed, streaky, erratic player, but he's proven to be a very good scorer in this league. Herro's injury may allow Miami a chance to give him some run and see if he can regain some of his trade value.

[BadMofoPimp]

Unleash Scary Terry in his contract year!

[twix2500]

I can't think of a good reason to not give Rozier a chance to compete for that job. He's on our cap one way or another.

I thought about this too, but the amount of rumors that the Heat are not even trying to have Rozier in camp is alarming. Did the Heat PR team ever mention him working out with the Heat at all this summer? I am trying to scroll through Heat media to see any mentions of Rozier

I don't know where Miami stands with Rozier, but at least while Herro is out, Rozier slides perfectly in as the scoring punch coming off the bench. I'm not sure Larsson or Dru Smith are ready for heavy minutes over an extended period. It isn't a lack of talent, but usually young players lack the consistency. Even if they both play ahead of Rozier, Rozier is an insurance policy until Herro gets back.

If Miami has no intentions of using Rozier, then I think Miami would be wise to bring in a vet like Josh Richardson, Delon Wright, or Alec Burks. And I think Miami needs to sign Achiuwa or some big as an insurance policy for the frontcourt.

Not sure how much wiggle room Miami has financially.

Miami has a platoon of guards why need another one? More than they have had probably since Arroyo, Chalmers and Bibby. Cant remember if Arroyo was on the roster the same time as Bibby.