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Re: Bears thread 13 

Post#241 » by sco » Mon Sep 22, 2025 12:16 pm

dice wrote:daniel jones leading league in QBR

First of all Jones isn't a bad quarterback, but it does show the difference a good O-line, good running game, and good receivers can do for a QB.
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Re: Bears thread 13 

Post#242 » by panthermark » Mon Sep 22, 2025 1:00 pm

Heck of a win! And the Packers looked like the Bears....love it!

Gotta give CW his flowers. He played great. Was hoping he could get 2 more yards passing to break 300, but there is always next game.
Yes, the Cowboys Defense is awful, and beating Flus felt great, but a big win is a big win.
Gotta give Stevenson a nod as well. I can't stand him, but the strip/steal/jack/rob/fleece...whatever you want to call...was awesome!

Running game is meh.
Defense is meh (not a great line, busted up secondary)
But with the pass catchers on this team, CW should put up some yards, even if every game is a shoot out (or blow out).
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Re: Bears thread 13 

Post#243 » by Jeffster81 » Mon Sep 22, 2025 2:31 pm

Zero sacks taken by Caleb Williams. First time as a Bear he has done that. Love that. Keep him upright and making quick and correct decisions and this offense can be at least competent this year. Rome and Burden as the future at WR is looking like it will be awesome. Just clear up the drops, Rome.

It looks like the defense will be a "bend don't break" variety this year. Which given the lack of depth and and impact players, I'm ok with it especially if the offense can be solid.

All said, the Bears look like a competent team yesterday. Something you really could not say at all during Eberflus time. Keep the momentum going against the Raiders.
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Post#244 » by jnrjr79 » Mon Sep 22, 2025 2:47 pm

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Almost Retired wrote:If I read it correctly the "dead cap" hit if we release Tyrique Stevenson after the season is about $422,000. I can't see how they keep him another season, let alone think about a contract extension. It just boggles my mind how bad he's gotten after a couple of good initial years since we drafted him. He started to go downhill last year and this year he has absolutely crapped the bed. I don't know if there is currently a worse CB in the entire league. I can't explain why he's gotten this bad. Does he have some un-announced nagging injuries or is his head just messed up? We are seeing a lot of guys regressing but Stevenson has been the worst example.


jordanwilliams6 wrote:It feels like either DJ or Kmet will be traded soon. DJ just doesn't seen to get enough touches in this offense and I don't think they'll move Kmet whilst Loveland is a rookie. We could still run a lot of 2 TE sets.

Burden looks like he might be ready alongside Rome & Zaccheaus if there's a good package for DJ out there.


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Re: Bears thread 13 

Post#245 » by sco » Mon Sep 22, 2025 3:11 pm

Jeffster81 wrote:Zero sacks taken by Caleb Williams. First time as a Bear he has done that. Love that. Keep him upright and making quick and correct decisions and this offense can be at least competent this year. Rome and Burden as the future at WR is looking like it will be awesome. Just clear up the drops, Rome.

It looks like the defense will be a "bend don't break" variety this year. Which given the lack of depth and and impact players, I'm ok with it especially if the offense can be solid.

All said, the Bears look like a competent team yesterday. Something you really could not say at all during Eberflus time. Keep the momentum going against the Raiders.

To be fair that pass to Rome, while catchable, was high and rotating end-over-end.

I think it is tough to take much from this game. Dallas might be the worst defense in the NFL; however, the Bears lost to two of the best defenses.

Still, good to see Caleb be able to thrive against someone.
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Re: Bears thread 13 

Post#246 » by Dresden » Mon Sep 22, 2025 3:19 pm

dice wrote:daniel jones leading league in QBR


One of the more bizarre stories of the early season- and Colts are 3-0. Giants fans have to be green.
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Re: Bears thread 13 

Post#247 » by Dresden » Mon Sep 22, 2025 3:20 pm

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dice wrote:daniel jones leading league in QBR

First of all Jones isn't a bad quarterback, but it does show the difference a good O-line, good running game, and good receivers can do for a QB.


Conversely, CJ Stroud, who some on here lament we didn't take, is having a very pedestrian season playing behind a poor line and with poor WR's.
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Post#248 » by Dresden » Mon Sep 22, 2025 3:23 pm

panthermark wrote:Heck of a win! And the Packers looked like the Bears....love it!

Gotta give CW his flowers. He played great. Was hoping he could get 2 more yards passing to break 300, but there is always next game.
Yes, the Cowboys Defense is awful, and beating Flus felt great, but a big win is a big win.
Gotta give Stevenson a nod as well. I can't stand him, but the strip/steal/jack/rob/fleece...whatever you want to call...was awesome!

Running game is meh.
Defense is meh (not a great line, busted up secondary)
But with the pass catchers on this team, CW should put up some yards, even if every game is a shoot out (or blow out).


As long as they give him time to throw and don't commit penalties. I don't think we had a single pre-snap penalty yesterday, and only 1 hold (other than on a punt). Such a difference that makes. Was he even sacked?
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Re: Bears thread 13 

Post#249 » by Dresden » Mon Sep 22, 2025 3:34 pm

panthermark wrote:Heck of a win! And the Packers looked like the Bears....love it!

Gotta give CW his flowers. He played great. Was hoping he could get 2 more yards passing to break 300, but there is always next game.
Yes, the Cowboys Defense is awful, and beating Flus felt great, but a big win is a big win.
Gotta give Stevenson a nod as well. I can't stand him, but the strip/steal/jack/rob/fleece...whatever you want to call...was awesome!

Running game is meh.
Defense is meh (not a great line, busted up secondary)
But with the pass catchers on this team, CW should put up some yards, even if every game is a shoot out (or blow out).


Maybe that strip of the ball will get Stevenson turned around. He played great yesterday, and the commentators mentioned that several times. He also had a key pass break up on a 3rd down later in the game. It was night and day from the Lion's game.

I thought Noah Sewell also played great yesterday- he made a lot of tackles and always seemed to be around the ball. Not to mention he put CD Lamb out of the game.
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Re: Bears thread 13 

Post#250 » by jnrjr79 » Mon Sep 22, 2025 3:35 pm

Dresden wrote:
panthermark wrote:Heck of a win! And the Packers looked like the Bears....love it!

Gotta give CW his flowers. He played great. Was hoping he could get 2 more yards passing to break 300, but there is always next game.
Yes, the Cowboys Defense is awful, and beating Flus felt great, but a big win is a big win.
Gotta give Stevenson a nod as well. I can't stand him, but the strip/steal/jack/rob/fleece...whatever you want to call...was awesome!

Running game is meh.
Defense is meh (not a great line, busted up secondary)
But with the pass catchers on this team, CW should put up some yards, even if every game is a shoot out (or blow out).


As long as they give him time to throw and don't commit penalties. I don't think we had a single pre-snap penalty yesterday, and only 1 hold (other than on a punt). Such a difference that makes. Was he even sacked?


Nope - first game of Caleb's career where he wasn't sacked.

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Re: Bears thread 13 

Post#251 » by Dresden » Mon Sep 22, 2025 3:38 pm

That final drive by the Bears where they ran the ball something like 10 times in a row was so refreshing to see. They haven't been able to pick up first downs on the ground to save their lives. What a difference it would make if they could do that regularly. Overall, their ypc was still terrible yesterday though. Work in progress I guess.

Outside of the play where he ran backwards and lost 8 yards, Monongai had 24 yards on 4 carries, a good average. I think we'll see more of him.

I don't know what to make of Swift. He makes these electric plays, like the 41 yard screen pass, but overall, his ypc is horrible. He does get hit a lot behind the line, so I can't blame it all on him, and if you keep giving him the ball, he's likely going to break some big ones. But there are also so many 1 and 2 yard carries from him.
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Re: Bears thread 13 

Post#252 » by Dresden » Mon Sep 22, 2025 3:45 pm

Rome is really blossoming in his second year. 4 TD's in 3 games, and another deep ball yesterday. He lead the team with 7 targets and a key 3rd down catch. DJ was actually second with 5, although it doesn't seem like it.

I hope we won't have to hear about how Caleb can't throw it deep anymore after this game.
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Re: Bears thread 13 

Post#253 » by nomorezorro » Mon Sep 22, 2025 3:54 pm

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sco wrote:
dice wrote:daniel jones leading league in QBR

First of all Jones isn't a bad quarterback, but it does show the difference a good O-line, good running game, and good receivers can do for a QB.


Conversely, CJ Stroud, who some on here lament we didn't take, is having a very pedestrian season playing behind a poor line and with poor WR's.


pretty rough early start to the year for the 2023-24 QB draft classes in general

optimist would say it's looking possible caleb might end up the best pick of the lot. pessimist would say the bears are so cursed when it comes to QBs that even players they could have picked are doomed to fail
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Re: Bears thread 13 

Post#254 » by patryk7754 » Mon Sep 22, 2025 3:58 pm

jnrjr79 wrote:
patryk7754 wrote:Edmunds is useless



Don't worry, I will. he had like 15 tackles against the cowboys...first time in a while he didnt have 15 missed tackles.
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Re: Bears thread 13 

Post#255 » by patryk7754 » Mon Sep 22, 2025 4:02 pm

sco wrote:
dice wrote:daniel jones leading league in QBR

First of all Jones isn't a bad quarterback, but it does show the difference a good O-line, good running game, and good receivers can do for a QB.

it was always a dumb move to pay Jones that crazy money....Imagine instead they just tag him or force him to take a 25m deal, resign Barkley, and fully invest in the OL. They'd be the eagles
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Re: Bears thread 13 

Post#256 » by jnrjr79 » Mon Sep 22, 2025 4:09 pm

Dresden wrote:That final drive by the Bears where they ran the ball something like 10 times in a row was so refreshing to see. They haven't been able to pick up first downs on the ground to save their lives. What a difference it would make if they could do that regularly. Overall, their ypc was still terrible yesterday though. Work in progress I guess.

Outside of the play where he ran backwards and lost 8 yards, Monongai had 24 yards on 4 carries, a good average. I think we'll see more of him.

I don't know what to make of Swift. He makes these electric plays, like the 41 yard screen pass, but overall, his ypc is horrible. He does get hit a lot behind the line, so I can't blame it all on him, and if you keep giving him the ball, he's likely going to break some big ones. But there are also so many 1 and 2 yard carries from him.


I forget where I saw the stat, but the Bears were actually one of the best-ranked teams in the NFL through the first two weeks at RB yards *before* contact, so Swift isn't getting hit in the backfield in a statistically frequent way.

TBH, he just seems like the quintessential 3rd down back - good receiver, good in space, not so great between the tackles.
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Post#257 » by _txchilibowl_ » Mon Sep 22, 2025 4:13 pm

Any updates on the Loveland injury?
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Post#258 » by patryk7754 » Mon Sep 22, 2025 4:31 pm

Don't know if it's been mentioned yet, but Williams is tied with Rodgers for the league lead in passing TDs with 7.
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Post#259 » by Dresden » Mon Sep 22, 2025 5:06 pm

patryk7754 wrote:Don't know if it's been mentioned yet, but Williams is tied with Rodgers for the league lead in passing TDs with 7.


If there is a stat for "chunk plays" I bet the Bears are near the top in that category as well. With how poorly they run the ball, it seems like the only way we score points is because we are producing these big pass plays. And honestly, with Ben Johnson calling plays, and the weapons we have, if we can just give Caleb protection, I don't see many teams being able to stop that passing attack.
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Post#260 » by patryk7754 » Mon Sep 22, 2025 6:57 pm

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patryk7754 wrote:Don't know if it's been mentioned yet, but Williams is tied with Rodgers for the league lead in passing TDs with 7.


If there is a stat for "chunk plays" I bet the Bears are near the top in that category as well. With how poorly they run the ball, it seems like the only way we score points is because we are producing these big pass plays. And honestly, with Ben Johnson calling plays, and the weapons we have, if we can just give Caleb protection, I don't see many teams being able to stop that passing attack.

If the Texans continue to be bad, we should put in a call for Nick Chubb. Should’ve signed him in the offseason.

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