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Re: Trades and Transactions 2025 V 

Post#921 » by Richard4444 » Mon Sep 22, 2025 7:40 pm

eagle54 wrote:Please don't sacrifice Dadiet a young potential to develop for Shamet a vet for 3 pts average. (if he play... brogdon clarkson mcbride it's enough guard)


We cant keeping investing on raw prospects while we are trying to win the champioship. Especially when we have salary restrictions, only space for 14 stardard contracts slots, 4 raw players (Dadiet, Korlek, Huk and Diwadara) and 2 very injury prone guys (Brogdon and Mitch).
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Post#922 » by Richard4444 » Mon Sep 22, 2025 7:46 pm

eagle54 wrote:keep all the young, let's not sacrifice anything for a 12 man rotation vet


Shamet would be our 11th vet. And we cant rely on Brogdon and Mitch.

Our depth is far from ideal.

We cant be too attached on a raw player that should be the next LaRavia 3 years from now if he is lucky.
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Post#923 » by RHODEY » Mon Sep 22, 2025 7:55 pm

god shammgod wrote:we're not getting giannis. the bucks don't want to trade him, he'd have to ask out. why is he doing it now all of a sudden ? check back in at the deadline.

Yeah no way we get him now, deadline maybe... depending on how they're doing and Giannis growing pair.
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Post#924 » by dukeknicksirish » Mon Sep 22, 2025 7:58 pm

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Post#925 » by god shammgod » Mon Sep 22, 2025 9:18 pm

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god shammgod wrote:we're not getting giannis. the bucks don't want to trade him, he'd have to ask out. why is he doing it now all of a sudden ? check back in at the deadline.


We are gonna monitor the **** out of that situation.


i really wonder if the knicks were 1st/2nd in the east at that time would they even make the trade. it would cost them a fortune and they would need multiple teams involved to get the bucks the things they'd want. and afterwards they might need to take a step back for a couple of seasons to rebuild the depth they need to win it all. it's actually not that cut and dry.
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Re: Trades and Transactions 2025 V 

Post#926 » by Capn'O » Mon Sep 22, 2025 9:48 pm

Guano wrote:Dumping the greatest knicks prospect since frank for shamet :nonono:

Has me all sorts of pist off.

Just dump kolek and stop fcking with my emotions.


Honestly, I think the move is to not bring Shamet on for the year. I'd be fine dumping Kolek but I don't think there's a huge market where a team just eats the salary and gives us future draft capital. I wouldn't make that trade.

You can see that at least somebody in management doesn't really want to dump Dadiet as well. Otherwise, they would have dumped Dadiet.

Guano wrote:Dumping the greatest knicks prospect since frank...


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Re: Trades and Transactions 2025 V 

Post#927 » by Capn'O » Mon Sep 22, 2025 9:49 pm

god shammgod wrote:
Capn'O wrote:
god shammgod wrote:we're not getting giannis. the bucks don't want to trade him, he'd have to ask out. why is he doing it now all of a sudden ? check back in at the deadline.


We are gonna monitor the **** out of that situation.


i really wonder if the knicks were 1st/2nd in the east at that time would they even make the trade. it would cost them a fortune and they would need multiple teams involved to get the bucks the things they'd want. and afterwards they might need to take a step back for a couple of seasons to rebuild the depth they need to win it all. it's actually not that cut and dry.


I don't see it happening under any circumstances. Not that we had a great shot at him before but we shot our wad getting Towns and Bridges.

This core is the team, imo.
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Post#928 » by 3toheadmelo » Mon Sep 22, 2025 10:22 pm

Guano wrote:Dumping the greatest knicks prospect since frank for shamet :nonono:

Has me all sorts of pist off.

Just dump kolek and stop fcking with my emotions.

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Re: Trades and Transactions 2025 V 

Post#929 » by Guano » Mon Sep 22, 2025 10:45 pm

Capn'O wrote:
Guano wrote:Dumping the greatest knicks prospect since frank for shamet :nonono:

Has me all sorts of pist off.

Just dump kolek and stop fcking with my emotions.


Honestly, I think the move is to not bring Shamet on for the year. I'd be fine dumping Kolek but I don't think there's a huge market where a team just eats the salary and gives us future draft capital. I wouldn't make that trade.

You can see that at least somebody in management doesn't really want to dump Dadiet as well. Otherwise, they would have dumped Dadiet.

Guano wrote:Dumping the greatest knicks prospect since frank...


:rofl:


Im disgusted that im going to complain about end of the bench roster management for a team that is competing for a championship but the heart wants what the heart wants. And also fck Rob. The kids are our future.

Its a poor use of draft capital to just abandon a prospect after 1 year. Especially when he is so young a raw. And we cant just expect washed ring chasing vets to fill out our roster. We need some youthful talent to hit. Especially with being capped and the lack of resources we have. Plus 3pac is has size and lastly but most importantly he is french.
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Re: Trades and Transactions 2025 V 

Post#930 » by Guano » Mon Sep 22, 2025 10:46 pm

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Guano wrote:Dumping the greatest knicks prospect since frank for shamet :nonono:

Has me all sorts of pist off.

Just dump kolek and stop fcking with my emotions.

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Exactly!!!!!!!!!!!!

get kolek the hell outta here.
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Re: Trades and Transactions 2025 V 

Post#931 » by Capn'O » Mon Sep 22, 2025 10:59 pm

Guano wrote:
Capn'O wrote:
Guano wrote:Dumping the greatest knicks prospect since frank for shamet :nonono:

Has me all sorts of pist off.

Just dump kolek and stop fcking with my emotions.


Honestly, I think the move is to not bring Shamet on for the year. I'd be fine dumping Kolek but I don't think there's a huge market where a team just eats the salary and gives us future draft capital. I wouldn't make that trade.

You can see that at least somebody in management doesn't really want to dump Dadiet as well. Otherwise, they would have dumped Dadiet.

Guano wrote:Dumping the greatest knicks prospect since frank...


:rofl:


Im disgusted that im going to complain about end of the bench roster management for a team that is competing for a championship but the heart wants what the heart wants. And also fck Rob. The kids are our future.

Its a poor use of draft capital to just abandon a prospect after 1 year. Especially when he is so young a raw. And we cant just expect washed ring chasing vets to fill out our roster. We need some youthful talent to hit. Especially with being capped and the lack of resources we have. Plus 3pac is has size and lastly but most importantly he is french.


3Pac's shot is beautiful and I thought he showed some defensive acumen.

The other problem is that if we asset dump him we can't use him in player deals. It looks like the FO is taking their time on this one to evaluate all options, which makes sense. There's no rush. Maybe a deal does emerge for Kolek and you can keep everyone that you want to keep on the roster.
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Re: Trades and Transactions 2025 V 

Post#932 » by Guano » Mon Sep 22, 2025 11:11 pm

Capn'O wrote:
Guano wrote:
Capn'O wrote:
Honestly, I think the move is to not bring Shamet on for the year. I'd be fine dumping Kolek but I don't think there's a huge market where a team just eats the salary and gives us future draft capital. I wouldn't make that trade.

You can see that at least somebody in management doesn't really want to dump Dadiet as well. Otherwise, they would have dumped Dadiet.



:rofl:


Im disgusted that im going to complain about end of the bench roster management for a team that is competing for a championship but the heart wants what the heart wants. And also fck Rob. The kids are our future.

Its a poor use of draft capital to just abandon a prospect after 1 year. Especially when he is so young a raw. And we cant just expect washed ring chasing vets to fill out our roster. We need some youthful talent to hit. Especially with being capped and the lack of resources we have. Plus 3pac is has size and lastly but most importantly he is french.


3Pac's shot is beautiful and I thought he showed some defensive acumen.

The other problem is that if we asset dump him we can't use him in player deals. It looks like the FO is taking their time on this one to evaluate all options, which makes sense. There's no rush. Maybe a deal does emerge for Kolek and you can keep everyone that you want to keep on the roster.


In truth none of this probably is going to have much or any impact on winning games.

I just like having a french prospect on the team that has legit potential. Even if the likelihood of him actualizing it is minimal.
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Re: Trades and Transactions 2025 V 

Post#933 » by Capn'O » Mon Sep 22, 2025 11:15 pm

Guano wrote:
Capn'O wrote:
Guano wrote:
Im disgusted that im going to complain about end of the bench roster management for a team that is competing for a championship but the heart wants what the heart wants. And also fck Rob. The kids are our future.

Its a poor use of draft capital to just abandon a prospect after 1 year. Especially when he is so young a raw. And we cant just expect washed ring chasing vets to fill out our roster. We need some youthful talent to hit. Especially with being capped and the lack of resources we have. Plus 3pac is has size and lastly but most importantly he is french.


3Pac's shot is beautiful and I thought he showed some defensive acumen.

The other problem is that if we asset dump him we can't use him in player deals. It looks like the FO is taking their time on this one to evaluate all options, which makes sense. There's no rush. Maybe a deal does emerge for Kolek and you can keep everyone that you want to keep on the roster.


In truth none of this probably is going to have much or any impact on winning games.

I just like having a french prospect on the team that has legit potential. Even if the likelihood of him actualizing it is minimal.


Absolutely. Especially since I see our potential for larger trades as very slim. We don't have dead weight contracts that you'd need to asset bait to get a better player.



We don't have dead weight contracts that you'd need to asset bait to get a better player.


I just wrote that sentence a second time because it's still novel to me.
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Post#934 » by knicks1999 » Mon Sep 22, 2025 11:15 pm

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Re: Trades and Transactions 2025 V 

Post#935 » by 3toheadmelo » Mon Sep 22, 2025 11:18 pm

Guano wrote:
3toheadmelo wrote:
Guano wrote:Dumping the greatest knicks prospect since frank for shamet :nonono:

Has me all sorts of pist off.

Just dump kolek and stop fcking with my emotions.

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Exactly!!!!!!!!!!!!

get kolek the hell outta here.


Sorry 3pac but its shamet time!!!!

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Post#936 » by Capn'O » Mon Sep 22, 2025 11:21 pm

JB
KAT
OG
Mikal
Mitch
Hart

That's our core and these guys are likely staying put for various reasons.

Deuce is good, can be traded, but isn't quite a core guy because of his contract situation. He probably won't be traded because there are very few players as good as he is for his contract rate. Deuce is more of a sweetener but we don't have the pot to sweeten.


Clarkson
Yabu
Brogdon
Shamet

These are mercenary signings, unlikely to be traded unless things REALLY don't work out.


Then there are the young guys - Huk, Kolek, Dadiet, McCullar, Diawara, etc.


I don't see where big trades are coming from this year unless we really are looking to flip KAT. I think the team is the team.
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Re: Trades and Transactions 2025 V 

Post#937 » by Guano » Mon Sep 22, 2025 11:44 pm

Capn'O wrote:
Guano wrote:
Capn'O wrote:
3Pac's shot is beautiful and I thought he showed some defensive acumen.

The other problem is that if we asset dump him we can't use him in player deals. It looks like the FO is taking their time on this one to evaluate all options, which makes sense. There's no rush. Maybe a deal does emerge for Kolek and you can keep everyone that you want to keep on the roster.


In truth none of this probably is going to have much or any impact on winning games.

I just like having a french prospect on the team that has legit potential. Even if the likelihood of him actualizing it is minimal.


Absolutely. Especially since I see our potential for larger trades as very slim. We don't have dead weight contracts that you'd need to asset bait to get a better player.



We don't have dead weight contracts that you'd need to asset bait to get a better player.


I just wrote that sentence a second time because it's still novel to me.


I think all of us have a hard time letting go of the knicks trauma... see all the posters still starphucking and me holding onto prospect hope.
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Post#938 » by Guano » Mon Sep 22, 2025 11:46 pm

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Exactly!!!!!!!!!!!!

get kolek the hell outta here.


Sorry 3pac but its shamet time!!!!

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Re: Trades and Transactions 2025 V 

Post#939 » by JayTWill » Tue Sep 23, 2025 12:40 am

Have there been any reports about a possible extension for Mitch?. Do they let him get to free agency if an extension isn't reached or possibly trade him? I see the value of Mitch on the roster but I also have my concerns about his health and how his game will age on his next contract.
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Post#940 » by WaltFrazier » Tue Sep 23, 2025 1:25 am

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Would absolutely hate this!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


I called it in the previous thread. 3Pac has legit potential so teams are gonna hone in on that.

It sucks but it's collateral damage to being a contender. We were fortunate get a guy like Brogdon cheap who wants to ring chase and we need to accommodate that. To that, we need to be building our draft capital pool back up as well.

But we lose out on a guy who could really help in a few years.


That said, with Brogdon on board, Shamet is totally expendable. So maybe dropping him is the move.

We have more than enough guards. And are short of wings with good size, ie 6'7-6'9. Dadiet isn't there yet but he is the prototype of what we need by size and position. So yeah, Brogdon and Shamet along with JB, Deuce and Kolek is more than enough guards while wings are a bit short in number
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