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Post #2361 » by **Domejandro** » Mon Sep 22, 2025 8:52 pm

Something not completely out of the questiong is Houston swinging a trade at the deadline. Outside of this season (1-4 protected), Houston owns all of their own First Round Draft Picks, alongside a couple of interesting ones from other teams (2027 FRP swap with Brooklyn, 2027 Phoenix FRP, and two best of DAL/HOU/PHX in 2029). They are pretty loaded with Draft capital, so finding a stop-gap or bringing in a big target isn't infeasible.

giberish · Post #2362 » by **giberish** » Mon Sep 22, 2025 9:05 pm

babyjax13 wrote:
Mavrelous wrote:They have to get a PG now

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They probably won't be able to until partway through the season. We'll see what Sheppard can do, I assume they will have an injury exception to sign a point guard on the market. Maybe Brogdon asked to be released and signs with them? They could trade their 2028 1st + DFS for a point guard, later. They have so many valuable picks, that seems to be the least valuable over the next 3 years. Dosunmu would be a nice target.

I thought they really needed another guard already - I would have added Ty Jerome rather than DFS as they already were deep at forward.

There's a bunch of teams that have extra guards and are thin at forward, but it's tough to make a deal right now. DFS was just signed, Smith just got an extension and Eason is the guy they care about most long-term.

Godaddycurse · Post #2363 » by **Godaddycurse** » Mon Sep 22, 2025 9:35 pm

babyjax13 wrote:
Texas Chuck wrote:Ben Simmons is out there except they have 3 non-shooting centers and Thompson so probably too rough a fit.

Rough for Houston though.

Honestly it means bigger roles for Thompson and Shepherd, so while it does suck it will help their young players develop.

they are super tight against 1st apron. Even if they get a DPE they cant use it on a FA (Without sending out someone else)

tester551 · Post #2364 » by **tester551** » Mon Sep 22, 2025 9:43 pm

babyjax13 wrote:
Mavrelous wrote:They have to get a PG now

Read on Twitter
?t=Vjo5tgsWencb1TKDIFjlKA&s=19

They probably won't be able to until partway through the season. We'll see what Sheppard can do, I assume they will have an injury exception to sign a point guard on the market. Maybe Brogdon asked to be released and signs with them? They could trade their 2028 1st + DFS for a point guard, later. They have so many valuable picks, that seems to be the least valuable over the next 3 years. Dosunmu would be a nice target.

Blazers would likely be wiling to send Holiday out.

Matching contracts would be difficult though... Not sure how to make that work - while keeping value reasonable.

After Dec 15th:
Holiday ($32M)
for
FVV ($25M) + ???

babyjax13 · Post #2365 » by **babyjax13** » Mon Sep 22, 2025 10:02 pm

tester551 wrote:
babyjax13 wrote:
Mavrelous wrote:They have to get a PG now

Read on Twitter
?t=Vjo5tgsWencb1TKDIFjlKA&s=19

They probably won't be able to until partway through the season. We'll see what Sheppard can do, I assume they will have an injury exception to sign a point guard on the market. Maybe Brogdon asked to be released and signs with them? They could trade their 2028 1st + DFS for a point guard, later. They have so many valuable picks, that seems to be the least valuable over the next 3 years. Dosunmu would be a nice target.

Blazers would likely be wiling to send Holiday out.

Matching contracts would be difficult though... Not sure how to make that work - while keeping value reasonable.

After Dec 15th:
Holiday ($32M)
for
FVV ($25M) + ???

I love that idea, especially since Holiday didn't seem too excited to be in Portland after the deal.

FVV + 2028 HOU 1st?

Next season Portland can flip FVV?

Scoot would get a lot of mentorship. Partial season with Holiday, partial season with FVV, two seasons with Lillard. If he can't succeed after having so many examples of successful players there is nothing more Portland can do.

Post #2366 » by **Scoot McGroot** » Mon Sep 22, 2025 11:00 pm

FVV has an implicit no trade clause, due to the player option on the 2nd year. Can’t imagine he lets that go through?

Post #2367 » by **zimpy27** » Mon Sep 22, 2025 11:10 pm

Simmons to the Rockets?

Post #2368 » by **Scoot McGroot** » Mon Sep 22, 2025 11:35 pm

zimpy27 wrote:Simmons to the Rockets?

According to Spotrac, they’re only $1.2m to the hard cap at the apron and with only 14 guys, with everyone fully guaranteed.

And, right now, only KD, Sengun, Reed, Amen, and Eason are even eligible to be traded right now. It’s not easy to clear a vet minimum worth. Not with what Houston should be willing to move, that is.

Godaddycurse · Post #2369 » by **Godaddycurse** » Mon Sep 22, 2025 11:46 pm

Scoot McGroot wrote:
zimpy27 wrote:Simmons to the Rockets?

According to Spotrac, they’re only $1.2m to the hard cap at the apron and with only 14 guys, with everyone fully guaranteed.

And, right now, only KD, Sengun, Reed, Amen, and Eason are even eligible to be traded right now. It’s not easy to clear a vet minimum worth. Not with what Houston should be willing to move, that is.

I thought Adams is tradable too

Post #2370 » by **Scoot McGroot** » Tue Sep 23, 2025 12:02 am

Godaddycurse wrote:
Scoot McGroot wrote:
zimpy27 wrote:Simmons to the Rockets?

According to Spotrac, they’re only $1.2m to the hard cap at the apron and with only 14 guys, with everyone fully guaranteed.

And, right now, only KD, Sengun, Reed, Amen, and Eason are even eligible to be traded right now. It’s not easy to clear a vet minimum worth. Not with what Houston should be willing to move, that is.

I thought Adams is tradable too

Could be. There was some question over the summer if he ever actually signed the extension, or if it was merely a new contract. He could be tradeable if it was an extension signed in June.

Post #2371 » by **Scoot McGroot** » Tue Sep 23, 2025 12:06 am

Scoot McGroot wrote:
Godaddycurse wrote:
Scoot McGroot wrote:
According to Spotrac, they’re only $1.2m to the hard cap at the apron and with only 14 guys, with everyone fully guaranteed.

And, right now, only KD, Sengun, Reed, Amen, and Eason are even eligible to be traded right now. It’s not easy to clear a vet minimum worth. Not with what Houston should be willing to move, that is.

I thought Adams is tradable too

Could be. There was some question over the summer if he ever actually signed the extension, or if it was merely a new contract. He could be tradeable if it was an extension signed in June.

Should be, rather. Houston announced it officially in June, so yeah, he'd be trade eligible too. Spotrac had him listed as trade restricted.

MoreyWins · Post #2372 » by **MoreyWins** » Tue Sep 23, 2025 4:17 am

Patiently waiting for CJ McCollum to request a buyout

MoreyWins · Post #2373 » by **MoreyWins** » Tue Sep 23, 2025 4:33 am

I'm not making any panic trades if I'm Houston. Just go on with business as usual in regards to the last two contract extensions on the checklist. I'd give the team 20 games to establish themselves and reevaluate from there. I'd put out feelers to see whether CJ McCollum has put any thought into requesting a buyout from Washington. He seems like a really good fit, and at this stage of his career it's probably good to go somewhere that takes care of their vets and has aspirations to win games.

Godaddycurse · Post #2374 » by **Godaddycurse** » Tue Sep 23, 2025 4:47 am

MoreyWins wrote:Patiently waiting for CJ McCollum to request a buyout

Who are you dumping to free up room under apron for him

MoreyWins · Post #2375 » by **MoreyWins** » Tue Sep 23, 2025 5:03 am

Godaddycurse wrote:
MoreyWins wrote:Patiently waiting for CJ McCollum to request a buyout

Who are you dumping to free up room under apron for him

Dumping Holiday and Okogie would get the Rockets a bit over $5M under the first apron

Post #2376 » by **Mavrelous** » Tue Sep 23, 2025 10:05 am

Godaddycurse wrote:
MoreyWins wrote:Patiently waiting for CJ McCollum to request a buyout

Who are you dumping to free up room under apron for him

Jeff Green or Tate, they have enough forwards.

nolian · Post #2377 » by **nolian** » Tue Sep 23, 2025 10:58 am

tester551 wrote:After Dec 15th:
Holiday ($32M)
for
FVV ($25M) + ???

I thought the same

Post #2378 » by **Scoot McGroot** » Tue Sep 23, 2025 12:00 pm

MoreyWins wrote:
Godaddycurse wrote:
MoreyWins wrote:Patiently waiting for CJ McCollum to request a buyout

Who are you dumping to free up room under apron for him

Dumping Holiday and Okogie would get the Rockets a bit over $5M under the first apron

Mavrelous wrote:
Godaddycurse wrote:
MoreyWins wrote:Patiently waiting for CJ McCollum to request a buyout

Who are you dumping to free up room under apron for him

Jeff Green or Tate, they have enough forwards.

For both of these, the main problem is those guys all can't be traded until 12/15, so the team has to go almost 2 months of games without a veteran PG to hold the fort down. If Houston is willing to wait, these guys are all preferable to Adams or Eason.

Post #2379 » by **Scoot McGroot** » Tue Sep 23, 2025 12:01 pm

nolian wrote:
tester551 wrote:After Dec 15th:
Holiday ($32M)
for
FVV ($25M) + ???

I thought the same

Would FVV agree to that deal? He has an implicit no trade clause this year.

Post #2380 » by **Mavrelous** » Tue Sep 23, 2025 12:12 pm

Scoot McGroot wrote:
Mavrelous wrote:
Godaddycurse wrote:
Who are you dumping to free up room under apron for him

Jeff Green or Tate, they have enough forwards.

For both of these, the main problem is those guys all can't be traded until 12/15, so the team has to go almost 2 months of games without a veteran PG to hold the fort down. If Houston is willing to wait, these guys are all preferable to Adams or Eason?

Yeah, they'll go ~20 games w/o FVV, and wait for a buyout for CJ or sign Brogdon, trial by fire for Sheppard and Amen as lead PGs.