how to solve Houston's problem (FVV)

[HornetJail]

can someone convince the Hornets to do Spencer Dinwiddie a solid and let him out of his contract so he can sign with Houston?

[gswhoops]

Reed was the 3rd overall pick. You roll with him and make a move if he is terrible.

That's fine in theory, and probably what they end up doing, but going from "looks good in garbage time" to "starting caliber PG for a playoff team" is a massive leap they're counting on Reed to make.

I'd want a better plan B in place than "wait until 2/3rds of the season has passed and hope we can sign someone decent on the buyout market"

[JRoy]

Agreed.

HOU needs a steady vet at starting pg this year and some minutes for the young guys to grow and see if they might be able to take it over.

[Dr Positivity]

The Durant window so very small that they should either trade future picks to dump FVV for a win now PG, or actually give up and trade Durant.

[Dr Positivity]

If they traded FVV for DeJounte they would get someone who plays this year and apparently his recovery is going pretty well. New Orleans says no?

[esvl]

Memphis might consider moving Pippen for overpayment like 1st 2027 (via PHO). He is a younger version of FVV.

[JRoy]

Of course MEM would move him for a likely lotto pick. Why would HOU do that?

[Billl]

Reed was the 3rd overall pick. You roll with him and make a move if he is terrible.

That's fine in theory, and probably what they end up doing, but going from "looks good in garbage time" to "starting caliber PG for a playoff team" is a massive leap they're counting on Reed to make.

I'd want a better plan B in place than "wait until 2/3rds of the season has passed and hope we can sign someone decent on the buyout market"

And even that is a generous take on how Reed looked last year. He was drafted as a shooter and put up 35% from the field. That's brutal. Obviously not a huge sample size, but he's got to be an efficient shooter or it's gonna be tough for him to find a role in an NBA rotation.

[SNPA]

Sheppard+Eason to GoldenState
Monk to Houston
Kuminga (sign and trade) to Kings

Houston sign RW at veteran minimum

until 15 december
RW/Monk
AmenThompson
KD
Jabari
Sengun
+A.Holiday, Okogie, DFS, Adams, Capela

at 15 december
FVV + Okogie/A.Holiday/other x JrueHoliday

from december to PO
Jrue
Amen
KD
Jabari
Sengun

RW
Monk
DFS
Adams
Capela

at the end, the team for the playoff can be better than the actual with FVV healthy

I posted this in the other thread too, you beat me to it.

I don’t see it as Sheppard based, it could Adams.

[babyjax13]

They likely won't be able to trade FVV. He has the ability to veto a trade because bird rights would not come with him if he were dealt.

[babyjax13]

According to Spotrac the only players without trade restrictions are:
Durant
Sengun
Jabari (but is poison pill)
Sheppard
Amen
Eason

That is it. If things are really desperate I think they will trade Eason out of all of these players considering that his rookie contract just doesn't have time left on it. I am sure a team would give a protected first for Eason and they can just open up the salary space + net an asset for a future deal. They could also do something like Eason for Sasser and a first which opens up a minimum space, gets them 15 minutes of reasonable guard play, and an asset. I like Krejci, too, cheap - long contract - but not sure what ATL has to add that makes sense or that they can afford to keep Eason.

[LarsV8]

I am an Eason truther, I consider him untouchable, unless an absolute stud is coming back.

[JRoy]

I am an Eason truther, I consider him untouchable, unless an absolute stud is coming back.

I like him a lot, wanted him over Sharpe.

[giberish]

Given that trading for KD was a win right now move and they no longer have the backcourt to win right now I wonder if a KD resale becomes plausible.

[Scoot McGroot]

They're hardcapped at the 1st apron after the Durant trade. I don't believe they're permitted to sign players who are bought and make as much as CJ.

I thought its if they are above first apron that they cant sign players making above mle

With cap holds, the Rockets are above the first apron. They can probably run with 14 players and duck it.

Cap holds aren’t factored into apron calculations, though unlikely incentives are.

Teams over the First Apron are barred from signing players that make over the MLE if they’re waived/bought out during the regular season. Houston is hard capped at the first apron, so they’re for sure able to sign a player like McCollum, as they cannot cross over the line that would bar them from signing a waiver/buyout player.

[Kiss of Death]

According to Spotrac the only players without trade restrictions are:
Durant
Sengun
Jabari (but is poison pill)
Sheppard
Amen
Eason

That is it. If things are really desperate I think they will trade Eason out of all of these players considering that his rookie contract just doesn't have time left on it. I am sure a team would give a protected first for Eason and they can just open up the salary space + net an asset for a future deal. They could also do something like Eason for Sasser and a first which opens up a minimum space, gets them 15 minutes of reasonable guard play, and an asset. I like Krejci, too, cheap - long contract - but not sure what ATL has to add that makes sense or that they can afford to keep Eason.

They can just wait until December 15 when DFS, Capela and others are available to trade.

[Godaddycurse]

DFS/Capela for Monk would make both teams better

[babyjax13]

According to Spotrac the only players without trade restrictions are:
Durant
Sengun
Jabari (but is poison pill)
Sheppard
Amen
Eason

That is it. If things are really desperate I think they will trade Eason out of all of these players considering that his rookie contract just doesn't have time left on it. I am sure a team would give a protected first for Eason and they can just open up the salary space + net an asset for a future deal. They could also do something like Eason for Sasser and a first which opens up a minimum space, gets them 15 minutes of reasonable guard play, and an asset. I like Krejci, too, cheap - long contract - but not sure what ATL has to add that makes sense or that they can afford to keep Eason.

They can just wait until December 15 when DFS, Capela and others are available to trade.

My point is more that if they can't wait because the team just needs a point guard to function, until then those are the only guys they can trade.

[redslastlaugh]

I know it was his first time in the playoffs, but in the series with GSW, he tallied 5 assists (5 assists! over seven games) against 10 turnovers and was a -27 in the series

I think he has a good amount of upside if he can stay healthy but his health is a pretty big question mark. Why is he untouchable from a Rockets fan perspective?

I am an Eason truther, I consider him untouchable, unless an absolute stud is coming back.

[DoItALL9]

De'Aaron Fox for KD and picks