Warriors exploring S&T for Kuminga

[EvanZ]

We should get rid of Kuminga before the season starts or just let him sign the QO. I think as evidenced by this thread if he comes back on a contract it's going to be a total **** show the entire season. Literally every single presser and article will be about trading Kuminga. And in the end, they will apparently be lucky to get a pile of beans. WTF is the point of all this "flexibility" if we don't get any value back in a trade? Zero.

[Larry Ellison]

We need the depth on the wing. Team is very guard heavy. I do think you are right that he will be a distraction.

[statsman]

GS should just take the Suns offer....Royce would be under contract at a low price through 27-28 and should be easy enough to move if they wanted him off the books a year earlier for their "Summer of Dreams" in 2027 and Richards is an expiring.

Take the 4 seconds and include them in a package if they need to get off Royce.

Royce and Oso would be great fits on our team.

I don't think the Suns would be including Oso in a trade. Even if they did, I don't think Royce + Oso is sufficient in a S&T for Kuminga at the reported 4/89.

Anyway, if the Warriors are selling low, I would rather it be to the Suns than the Kings.

[Onus]

We should get rid of Kuminga before the season starts or just let him sign the QO. I think as evidenced by this thread if he comes back on a contract it's going to be a total **** show the entire season. Literally every single presser and article will be about trading Kuminga. And in the end, they will apparently be lucky to get a pile of beans. WTF is the point of all this "flexibility" if we don't get any value back in a trade? Zero.

What happened to the Kispert rumor?

[EvanZ]

We should get rid of Kuminga before the season starts or just let him sign the QO. I think as evidenced by this thread if he comes back on a contract it's going to be a total **** show the entire season. Literally every single presser and article will be about trading Kuminga. And in the end, they will apparently be lucky to get a pile of beans. WTF is the point of all this "flexibility" if we don't get any value back in a trade? Zero.

What happened to the Kispert rumor?

No idea, bro. But every single day leading up until the trade deadline is going to be this ****. It's going to be a nightmare.

[whatisacenter]

We should get rid of Kuminga before the season starts or just let him sign the QO. I think as evidenced by this thread if he comes back on a contract it's going to be a total **** show the entire season. Literally every single presser and article will be about trading Kuminga. And in the end, they will apparently be lucky to get a pile of beans. WTF is the point of all this "flexibility" if we don't get any value back in a trade? Zero.

What happened to the Kispert rumor?

No idea, bro. But every single day leading up until the trade deadline is going to be this ****. It's going to be a nightmare.

Not if he takes the QO! Then it will most likely be all season!

[Onus]

We should get rid of Kuminga before the season starts or just let him sign the QO. I think as evidenced by this thread if he comes back on a contract it's going to be a total **** show the entire season. Literally every single presser and article will be about trading Kuminga. And in the end, they will apparently be lucky to get a pile of beans. WTF is the point of all this "flexibility" if we don't get any value back in a trade? Zero.

What happened to the Kispert rumor?

No idea, bro. But every single day leading up until the trade deadline is going to be this ****. It's going to be a nightmare.

If the plan is to trade him then trade him. IF we're giving him 3 years then wtf are we doing? This negotiation has been a disaster

[AirP.]

Jeff Teague doesn’t believe Steph Curry, Draymond Green, or Jimmy Butler will be mad at Jonathan Kuminga for holding up the Warriors offseason

“They all veterans, they know he trying to lock in his money. They ain’t gonna be mad at him.”

(Via @club520podcast)

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[EvanZ]

What happened to the Kispert rumor?

No idea, bro. But every single day leading up until the trade deadline is going to be this ****. It's going to be a nightmare.

Not if he takes the QO! Then it will most likely be all season!

Nah, because if he takes the QO there's nothing left to talk about. There's no action that can be debated. He'd just be gone in a year.

[Onus]

Jeff Teague doesn’t believe Steph Curry, Draymond Green, or Jimmy Butler will be mad at Jonathan Kuminga for holding up the Warriors offseason

“They all veterans, they know he trying to lock in his money. They ain’t gonna be mad at him.”

(Via @club520podcast)

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Jimmy for sure won't be mad considering what he just went through to get his money.

[Old_Blue]

Jimmy for sure won't be mad considering what he just went through to get his money.

It's not about "being mad" at Kuminga. It's about being fed up with Kuminga's lack of consideration for anyone other than himself. He's made several would be teammates sit around for months, waiting for him to finish with his very public salary tantrum. At this point, people are simply putting up with him until he's gone. If there isn't already a name for the kind of person whose selfishness engenders disgust from everyone around him, then there ought to be one. For instance, if I'm in a BART or subway car and some guy walks in with a boom box and starts playing his music out loud instead of listening to it on headphones, disrupting everyone else in the car because he needs to feel his bass, THAT guy is most certainly a Kuminga.

[Onus]

Jimmy for sure won't be mad considering what he just went through to get his money.

It's not about "being mad" at Kuminga. It's about being fed up with Kuminga's lack of consideration for anyone other than himself. He's made several would be teammates sit around for months, waiting for him to finish with his very public salary tantrum. At this point, people are simply putting up with him until he's gone. If there isn't already a name for the kind of person whose selfishness engenders disgust from everyone around him, then there ought to be one. For instance, if I'm in a BART or subway car and some guy walks in with a boom box and starts playing his music out loud instead of listening to it on headphones, disrupting everyone else in the car because he needs to feel his bass, THAT guy is most certainly a Kuminga.

The warriors front office is no better. We want a contract to trade you, no now we want you on a long term on a 3 year deal. Actually no wait you choose what you want. The warriors refuse to make a decision on JK as well. So why wouldn't JK and his agent prey on their indecision especially when they have the ultimate leverage in Lacob in their corner. Them holding out got the warriors to guarantee 2/48 rather than 1/22.5, seems like JK holding out and in your eyes being selfish worked for him. So why wouldn't they exert more of their leverage to get more?

[Old_Blue]

Jimmy for sure won't be mad considering what he just went through to get his money.

It's not about "being mad" at Kuminga. It's about being fed up with Kuminga's lack of consideration for anyone other than himself. He's made several would be teammates sit around for months, waiting for him to finish with his very public salary tantrum. At this point, people are simply putting up with him until he's gone. If there isn't already a name for the kind of person whose selfishness engenders disgust from everyone around him, then there ought to be one. For instance, if I'm in a BART or subway car and some guy walks in with a boom box and starts playing his music out loud instead of listening to it on headphones, disrupting everyone else in the car because he needs to feel his bass, THAT guy is most certainly a Kuminga.

The warriors front office is no better. We want a contract to trade you, no now we want you on a long term on a 3 year deal. Actually no wait you choose what you want. The warriors refuse to make a decision on JK as well. So why wouldn't JK and his agent prey on their indecision especially when they have the ultimate leverage in Lacob in their corner. Them holding out got the warriors to guarantee 2/48 rather than 1/22.5, seems like JK holding out and in your eyes being selfish worked for him. So why wouldn't they exert more of their leverage to get more?

So, if you were in Kuminga's position, are you actually saying that you would want FEWER choices? Personally, I think the Dubs have been overly gracious under the circumstances.

[HiRez]

It's not about "being mad" at Kuminga. It's about being fed up with Kuminga's lack of consideration for anyone other than himself. He's made several would be teammates sit around for months, waiting for him to finish with his very public salary tantrum. At this point, people are simply putting up with him until he's gone. If there isn't already a name for the kind of person whose selfishness engenders disgust from everyone around him, then there ought to be one. For instance, if I'm in a BART or subway car and some guy walks in with a boom box and starts playing his music out loud instead of listening to it on headphones, disrupting everyone else in the car because he needs to feel his bass, THAT guy is most certainly a Kuminga.

The warriors front office is no better. We want a contract to trade you, no now we want you on a long term on a 3 year deal. Actually no wait you choose what you want. The warriors refuse to make a decision on JK as well. So why wouldn't JK and his agent prey on their indecision especially when they have the ultimate leverage in Lacob in their corner. Them holding out got the warriors to guarantee 2/48 rather than 1/22.5, seems like JK holding out and in your eyes being selfish worked for him. So why wouldn't they exert more of their leverage to get more?

So, if you were in Kuminga's position, are you actually saying that you would want FEWER choices? Personally, I think the Dubs have been overly gracious under the circumstances.

The offers have gotten better (although yes, a little all over the place), so I guess it's working? Isn't that what negotiating is supposed to look like? I think both sides share some blame and both have made mistakes, but I don't see how it's all on Kuminga, the Dubs FO had every opportunity to avoid this situation by acting earlier (one way or another). It's been obvious for quite some time that Kerr and Kuminga are never going to co-exist in balance (the reasons here are unimportant because that's the bottom line) so if you're not getting rid of Kerr, then what are you doing stringing Kuminga along? He clearly should have been traded last year, but probably the year before that.

[TB]

Nobody on the team or coaching staff is going to be mad or frustrated with Kuminga because of this offseason. I think the front office (and probably kerr and the vets) thinks Kuminga has an awful agent (which seems to certainly be the case), but in no way would that make anything awkward once everyone gets to Chase Center for practice and games.

And if deals have already been “made” with Horford, Melton, GP2, and Seth, those guys aren’t losing sleep over this either. If anything they are probably happy they don’t have to deal with any of the press stuff during their summer and can just report to camp when its all settled.

[Old_Blue]

Nobody on the team or coaching staff is going to be mad or frustrated with Kuminga because of this offseason. I think the front office (and probably kerr and the vets) thinks Kuminga has an awful agent (which seems to certainly be the case), but in no way would that make anything awkward once everyone gets to Chase Center for practice and games.

Nothing says awkward more than everyone else sitting down to a lavish spread of food and you're handed a bento box to go.

[bay2hk]

No idea, bro. But every single day leading up until the trade deadline is going to be this ****. It's going to be a nightmare.

Not if he takes the QO! Then it will most likely be all season!

Nah, because if he takes the QO there's nothing left to talk about. There's no action that can be debated. He'd just be gone in a year.

Yup, and if he doesn’t do what Kerr and coaching staff tells him to do (eg rebound, defend and pass) then he will be benched. He can sign on a minimum contract next year with a different team if he wants to mess around.

[Ilovethebay]

Nobody on the team or coaching staff is going to be mad or frustrated with Kuminga because of this offseason. I think the front office (and probably kerr and the vets) thinks Kuminga has an awful agent (which seems to certainly be the case), but in no way would that make anything awkward once everyone gets to Chase Center for practice and games.

And if deals have already been “made” with Horford, Melton, GP2, and Seth, those guys aren’t losing sleep over this either. If anything they are probably happy they don’t have to deal with any of the press stuff during their summer and can just report to camp when it’s all settled.

Good to see not everyone is on the “everything is Kuminga’s fault” or the whole “Kuminga is going to be a cancer in the locker room” camp like most of the lemmings here. Bravo

[HiRez]

Well, the good news is we're only a week away from the deadline so it'll be resolved one way or another soon and our long  national  local nightmare will be over.

[azwfan]

Nobody on the team or coaching staff is going to be mad or frustrated with Kuminga because of this offseason. I think the front office (and probably kerr and the vets) thinks Kuminga has an awful agent (which seems to certainly be the case), but in no way would that make anything awkward once everyone gets to Chase Center for practice and games.

And if deals have already been “made” with Horford, Melton, GP2, and Seth, those guys aren’t losing sleep over this either. If anything they are probably happy they don’t have to deal with any of the press stuff during their summer and can just report to camp when it’s all settled.

Good to see not everyone is on the “everything is Kuminga’s fault” or the whole “Kuminga is going to be a cancer in the locker room” camp like most of the lemmings here. Bravo

We need one more big argument to push this baby over 200 pages. Is Elon in the news? Monta as good as Wade? Young v Montana? Bueller?