Free Agent/Trade/Waiver Thread, 2025-26, part 2

[redslastlaugh]

White is $28.1 this year and FVV is $25, so a theoretical straigh up trade would shave $3 million off the bill. Next year FVV is still at $25 and White makes $30 million, so that'd shave $5 million off the cap sheet for 2026-27

We could still try to trade Ant Simons for players making $10 million less and try to get under the tax this season.

Let's not forget that if the Celtics take on FVV and his contract for White or Simons, the Cs would not be able to go below the repeater threshold this season.

So that brings us back to the issue of cap flexibility for 2027 and beyond.

That would decimate the roster for this season.

That's an absolute tank job.

No way Brad resorts to that just for draft picks.

There is a core in place right now.
Removing White means the Cs will start from scratch to find another championship caliber supporting cast for the Jays.

your probably right, I think Brad wants to go forward with this core and find a high level big man before the trade deadline with Simons money or after this season when they can get a center into KP's traded player exception

[Fierce1]

To me, a godfather offer would have to be Amen Thompson and 2 or 3 picks for DWhite.

It's not just White's talent, it's also his great fit with the Cs and the Jays that make White so valuable to the Cs.

[Fierce1]

White is $28.1 this year and FVV is $25, so a theoretical straigh up trade would shave $3 million off the bill. Next year FVV is still at $25 and White makes $30 million, so that'd shave $5 million off the cap sheet for 2026-27

We could still try to trade Ant Simons for players making $10 million less and try to get under the tax this season.

That would decimate the roster for this season.

That's an absolute tank job.

No way Brad resorts to that just for draft picks.

There is a core in place right now.
Removing White means the Cs will start from scratch to find another championship caliber supporting cast for the Jays.

your probably right, I think Brad wants to go forward with this core and find a high level big man before the trade deadline with Simons money or after this season when they can get a center into KP's traded player exception

Yeah, that's the most realistic scenario.

[Hal14]

To me, a godfather offer would have to be Amen Thompson and 2 or 3 picks for DWhite.

It's not just White's talent, it's also his great fit with the Cs and the Jays that make White so valuable to the Cs.

Rockets would never do that.

Amen on his own has more trade value than D-white.

This is a recent ranking of the top 30 players in the league in terms of trade value.

https://www.thescore.com/nba/news/3327852

Amen is 15th on there. White falls just outside of the top 30.

[Fierce1]

To me, a godfather offer would have to be Amen Thompson and 2 or 3 picks for DWhite.

It's not just White's talent, it's also his great fit with the Cs and the Jays that make White so valuable to the Cs.

Rockets would never do that.

Amen on his own has more trade value than D-white.

This is a recent ranking of the top 30 players in the league in terms of trade value.

https://www.thescore.com/nba/news/3327852

Amen is 15th on there. White falls just outside of the top 30.

Agree with you 100%.

I was just sharing my version of a godfather offer.

Trading White for FVV and draft picks is like taking 2 steps back on the road to Banner 19.

[Shak_Celts]

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[Dogen]

Unless Houston is willing to discuss Sengun I wouldn't even talk to them about Simons. Forget about White or Pritchard. Now if they want to discuss Hauser for Capela, I might listen.

IMHO the Rockets will likely obtain a servicable FVV replacement from some team in exchange for Adams or Calela, but it won't be Boston.

Why would Houston be at all willing to discuss Sengun? That's the opposite of what they are doing. But I suppose it's meant to be provocative.

Hauser for Capela is interesting, if after Dec 15 and there are other contracts or teams included since Hauser's contract is more than Clint's. But it does potentially help both teams as it gives HOU another shooter to go to if they run ball handler by committee with KD, Amen and Reed as the main distributors.

For Boston, Capela would be nice insurance at the 5. He's experienced and serviceable, although already peaked. Yet, he'd still probably be our best big unless Queta makes a jump in November.

[165bows]

Pardon me while I just do my best Booby Knight impression here

[Curmudgeon]

Unless Houston is willing to discuss Sengun I wouldn't even talk to them about Simons. Forget about White or Pritchard. Now if they want to discuss Hauser for Capela, I might listen.

IMHO the Rockets will likely obtain a servicable FVV replacement from some team in exchange for Adams or Calela, but it won't be Boston.

Why would Houston be at all willing to discuss Sengun? That's the opposite of what they are doing. But I suppose it's meant to be provocative.

It was meant to say that there is no reason why Boston should help the Rockets out of their pickle. If Amen Thompson is so good, let him play the point.

[Hal14]

Unless Houston is willing to discuss Sengun I wouldn't even talk to them about Simons. Forget about White or Pritchard. Now if they want to discuss Hauser for Capela, I might listen.

IMHO the Rockets will likely obtain a servicable FVV replacement from some team in exchange for Adams or Calela, but it won't be Boston.

Why would Houston be at all willing to discuss Sengun? That's the opposite of what they are doing. But I suppose it's meant to be provocative.

It was meant to say that there is no reason why Boston should help the Rockets out of their pickle. If Amen Thompson is so good, let him play the point.

That's probably what they're going to do. Play Amen and Sheppard with a little bit of Holiday..and maybe JD gets a chance to play a little bit.

I don't think they're gonna trade for anyone and if they do it would likely be a minor move - for someone like Dosunmo, Pippen or Alvarado.

[Dogen]

Why would Houston be at all willing to discuss Sengun? That's the opposite of what they are doing. But I suppose it's meant to be provocative.

It was meant to say that there is no reason why Boston should help the Rockets out of their pickle. If Amen Thompson is so good, let him play the point.

That's probably what they're going to do. Play Amen and Sheppard with a little bit of Holiday..and maybe JD gets a chance to play a little bit.

I don't think they're gonna trade for anyone and if they do it would likely be a minor move - for someone like Dosunmo, Pippen or Alvarado.

Dosunmo would be a nice get for the Rockets. And he currently comes off the books after this season, in time for FVV to return.

Ayo for Tari. Overpay from the Rockets, imo, as Eason has more upside and Ayo is not nearly the shooter of FVV, but he's a good defender and better depth insurance than Holiday.

.... why am I helping these teams out? I wanted Eason in Boston. Let's get a three way deal!

[GreenBlooded]

Why would Houston be at all willing to discuss Sengun? That's the opposite of what they are doing. But I suppose it's meant to be provocative.

It was meant to say that there is no reason why Boston should help the Rockets out of their pickle. If Amen Thompson is so good, let him play the point.

That's probably what they're going to do. Play Amen and Sheppard with a little bit of Holiday..and maybe JD gets a chance to play a little bit.

I don't think they're gonna trade for anyone and if they do it would likely be a minor move - for someone like Dosunmo, Pippen or Alvarado.

^^ Source: Bill Simons Pod with Zach Lowe

[bucknersrevenge]

Go get him Brad. Solidify the front court for the future. Pritchard/Neemy and picks for Kessler.

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[Dogen]

Go get him Brad. Solidify the front court for the future. Pritchard/Neemy and picks for Kessler.

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I really need to study the Book of Kessler more, but this very intriguing. Possibly a beneficial deal for both teams, depending on the picks.

[bucknersrevenge]

Go get him Brad. Solidify the front court for the future. Pritchard/Neemy and picks for Kessler.

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I really need to study the Book of Kessler more, but this very intriguing. Possibly a beneficial deal for both teams, depending on the picks.

I never get what I want so don't think this has a chance in hell of happening but Kessler is an ELITE defensive big at 23 years old

99th percentile in rim protection, rim disruption, post defense, and screener mobile defense
95th percentile in def reb/75

He's a solid finisher in the PnR

Big men like him are hard to come by.

[redslastlaugh]

Go get him Brad. Solidify the front court for the future. Pritchard/Neemy and picks for Kessler.

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I really need to study the Book of Kessler more, but this very intriguing. Possibly a beneficial deal for both teams, depending on the picks.

I never get what I want so don't think this has a chance in hell of happening but Kessler is an ELITE defensive big at 23 years old

99th percentile in rim protection, rim disruption, post defense, and screener mobile defense
95th percentile in def reb/75

He's a solid finisher in the PnR

Big men like him are hard to come by.

I really haven't seen much of Walker Kessler, but I remember one game a few yrs ago when we played Utah in Utah. We had the ball down 1 with 5 seconds left and Grant Williams decided to be the hero and tried to take Kessler off the dribble. Grant got shutdown at the rim and Celts Lose, lol! I think it was the same week when Grant told Donovan Mitchell, "Ima make em both" when he went to line at the end of regulation in Cleveland, lol

God bless you Grant, but that was a tough week!

[Fierce1]

Last time Kessler was in trade talks, Ainge was asking for 2 1st round picks.

[Parliament10]

What's Kessler want for an Extension?

[Fierce1]

Tillman and Baylor for Kessler works.

It will depend on how many picks the Cs are willing to give up.

Kessler will definitely solve the big man problem, no doubt about that.

But it will all come down to if the Cs can sign him to an extension.

[GreenBlooded]

What's Kessler want for an Extension?

I remember reading he wanted 4/120