Warriors exploring S&T for Kuminga

[statsman]

Well, the good news is we're only a week away from the deadline so it'll be resolved one way or another soon and our long  national  local nightmare will be over.

Watch the Warriors and the Kuminga camp agree to extend the QO!

[Onus]

It's not about "being mad" at Kuminga. It's about being fed up with Kuminga's lack of consideration for anyone other than himself. He's made several would be teammates sit around for months, waiting for him to finish with his very public salary tantrum. At this point, people are simply putting up with him until he's gone. If there isn't already a name for the kind of person whose selfishness engenders disgust from everyone around him, then there ought to be one. For instance, if I'm in a BART or subway car and some guy walks in with a boom box and starts playing his music out loud instead of listening to it on headphones, disrupting everyone else in the car because he needs to feel his bass, THAT guy is most certainly a Kuminga.

The warriors front office is no better. We want a contract to trade you, no now we want you on a long term on a 3 year deal. Actually no wait you choose what you want. The warriors refuse to make a decision on JK as well. So why wouldn't JK and his agent prey on their indecision especially when they have the ultimate leverage in Lacob in their corner. Them holding out got the warriors to guarantee 2/48 rather than 1/22.5, seems like JK holding out and in your eyes being selfish worked for him. So why wouldn't they exert more of their leverage to get more?

So, if you were in Kuminga's position, are you actually saying that you would want FEWER choices? Personally, I think the Dubs have been overly gracious under the circumstances.

If I'm Jk's position, I see that the warriors are weak. They have a mole on their negotiating table and I'm exploiting that to get a 3rd guaranteed year for 3/75.

[Old_Blue]

The warriors front office is no better. We want a contract to trade you, no now we want you on a long term on a 3 year deal. Actually no wait you choose what you want. The warriors refuse to make a decision on JK as well. So why wouldn't JK and his agent prey on their indecision especially when they have the ultimate leverage in Lacob in their corner. Them holding out got the warriors to guarantee 2/48 rather than 1/22.5, seems like JK holding out and in your eyes being selfish worked for him. So why wouldn't they exert more of their leverage to get more?

So, if you were in Kuminga's position, are you actually saying that you would want FEWER choices? Personally, I think the Dubs have been overly gracious under the circumstances.

If I'm Jk's position, I see that the warriors are weak. They have a mole on their negotiating table and I'm exploiting that to get a 3rd guaranteed year for 3/75.

This is called a delusion of grandeur. It's defined as a "false belief about one's own importance, power, or identity that persists despite evidence to the contrary." If this is Kuminga's mindset at the age of 22, then he's got a life journey filled with setbacks ahead of him.

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[Onus]

So, if you were in Kuminga's position, are you actually saying that you would want FEWER choices? Personally, I think the Dubs have been overly gracious under the circumstances.

If I'm Jk's position, I see that the warriors are weak. They have a mole on their negotiating table and I'm exploiting that to get a 3rd guaranteed year for 3/75.

This is called a delusion of grandeur. It's defined as a "false belief about one's own importance, power, or identity that persists despite evidence to the contrary." If this is Kuminga's mindset at the age of 22, then he's got a life journey filled with setbacks ahead of him.

Why this holdout got him an extra 25M guaranteed? The one person (lacob) who matters values him and isn't going to let him leave. So why not exploit that for as much as possible?

[EvanZ]

Waht will be truly gaslighting is when he signs 3 guaranteed years and we never trade him. At this point, I'd say it's a coin flip that's the outcome of all this.

[Onus]

Waht will be truly gaslighting is when he signs 3 guaranteed years and we never trade him. At this point, I'd say it's a coin flip that's the outcome of all this.

TBH that's the most likely outcome.

I'm truly curious where that 1+1 deal came from?

[Old_Blue]

If I'm Jk's position, I see that the warriors are weak. They have a mole on their negotiating table and I'm exploiting that to get a 3rd guaranteed year for 3/75.

This is called a delusion of grandeur. It's defined as a "false belief about one's own importance, power, or identity that persists despite evidence to the contrary." If this is Kuminga's mindset at the age of 22, then he's got a life journey filled with setbacks ahead of him.

Why this holdout got him an extra 25M guaranteed? The one person (lacob) who matters values him and isn't going to let him leave. So why not exploit that for as much as possible?

And how much did Kuminga's not signing an extension before the start of last season cost him? It's disingenuous to claim that Kuminga's entire strategy in this matter has been anything other than an exercise in FAFO. For God's sake, last year at this time, the Dubs were offering Kuminga something between $100 and $150 million. And, the clown didn't take the money because he thought he was worthy of a max contract.

Report: Kuminga seeking five-year max Warriors contract

https://sports.yahoo.com/report-kuminga-seeking-five-max-032332496.html

Fourth-year forward Jonathan Kuminga is seeking a five-year, $224 million max contract from The Warriors Yahoo Sports Jake Fischer reported on the "No Cap Room" podcast.

[azwfan]

This is called a delusion of grandeur. It's defined as a "false belief about one's own importance, power, or identity that persists despite evidence to the contrary." If this is Kuminga's mindset at the age of 22, then he's got a life journey filled with setbacks ahead of him.

Why this holdout got him an extra 25M guaranteed? The one person (lacob) who matters values him and isn't going to let him leave. So why not exploit that for as much as possible?

And how much did Kuminga's not signing an extension before the start of last season cost him? It's disingenuous to claim that Kuminga's entire strategy in this matter has been anything other than an exercise in FAFO. For God's sake, last year at this time, the Dubs were offering Kuminga something between $100 and $150 million. And, the clown didn't take the money because he thought he was worthy of a max contract.

Report: Kuminga seeking five-year max Warriors contract

https://sports.yahoo.com/report-kuminga-seeking-five-max-032332496.html

Fourth-year forward Jonathan Kuminga is seeking a five-year, $224 million max contract from The Warriors Yahoo Sports Jake Fischer reported on the "No Cap Room" podcast.

Wasnt it reported that the Warriors didnt make an offer last offseason?

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Why this holdout got him an extra 25M guaranteed? The one person (lacob) who matters values him and isn't going to let him leave. So why not exploit that for as much as possible?

And how much did Kuminga's not signing an extension before the start of last season cost him? It's disingenuous to claim that Kuminga's entire strategy in this matter has been anything other than an exercise in FAFO. For God's sake, last year at this time, the Dubs were offering Kuminga something between $100 and $150 million. And, the clown didn't take the money because he thought he was worthy of a max contract.

Report: Kuminga seeking five-year max Warriors contract

https://sports.yahoo.com/report-kuminga-seeking-five-max-032332496.html

Fourth-year forward Jonathan Kuminga is seeking a five-year, $224 million max contract from The Warriors Yahoo Sports Jake Fischer reported on the "No Cap Room" podcast.

Wasnt it reported that the Warriors didnt make an offer last offseason?

According to JK's agent no offer was ever on the table and they would have signed it if it were. The Warriors never denied it.

[Old_Blue]

Why this holdout got him an extra 25M guaranteed? The one person (lacob) who matters values him and isn't going to let him leave. So why not exploit that for as much as possible?

And how much did Kuminga's not signing an extension before the start of last season cost him? It's disingenuous to claim that Kuminga's entire strategy in this matter has been anything other than an exercise in FAFO. For God's sake, last year at this time, the Dubs were offering Kuminga something between $100 and $150 million. And, the clown didn't take the money because he thought he was worthy of a max contract.

Report: Kuminga seeking five-year max Warriors contract

https://sports.yahoo.com/report-kuminga-seeking-five-max-032332496.html

Fourth-year forward Jonathan Kuminga is seeking a five-year, $224 million max contract from The Warriors Yahoo Sports Jake Fischer reported on the "No Cap Room" podcast.

Wasnt it reported that the Warriors didnt make an offer last offseason?

At time time, it was reported that the Dubs were considering an offering of 5 years at between $140 and $155 million for Kuminga. But, Kuminga and his agent came in at 5 years and $224 million. It's the same damned thing that happened with Victor Oladipo when Aaron Turner was representing him.

https://fadeawayworld.net/nba/golden-state-warriors/warriors-reportedly-likely-offer-jonathan-kuminga-5-year-deal-worth-140-155-million

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Bleacher Report 9/19/25

Appearing on The Hoop Collective Podcast (starts at 12:20 mark), Turner told ESPN's Brian Windhorst and Anthony Slater that the Warriors "didn't want to do a deal last summer" and there was never an offer of $150 million over five years on the table....Slater reported in November that the Warriors' offer topped out around $30 million per season.

However, Turner said if an offer of five years and $150 million had been presented to them, Kuminga "would have taken that" deal.

[marthafokker]

Jeff Teague doesn’t believe Steph Curry, Draymond Green, or Jimmy Butler will be mad at Jonathan Kuminga for holding up the Warriors offseason

“They all veterans, they know he trying to lock in his money. They ain’t gonna be mad at him.”

(Via @club520podcast)

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Curry and Jimmy got theirs. Didn't see them take less. And reason JK money issue is happening. They know better to complain.

[wco81]

Thing is, even $50 million is life-changing money, on top of the tens of millions he's already earned as a lottery pick.

If he's expecting a 9-figure salary from an NBA team, he may be waiting for a long time unless he levels up a few times from what he's shown.

That could happen, given his age. But his mindset may be wrong, if he already thinks he deserves max money. Because why would he keep working on his game if he thinks he's already achieved a very high level of ability?

[thunderdunk]

So far, the Dubs' offers have gotten higher as time has passed. So JK's negotiating strategy has been working. Maybe he's thinking he can grab an extra few million before the clock runs out. If the Dubs aren't putting a fuse on their offers, then they're either bad negotiators, or JK is fully in the driver's seat, and both sides know it. I think of all those years that Kevon took less money than he should have. Not up to me, but I think that he got a lot less $$ than he deserved for a long time. JK is going in the other direction.

[marthafokker]

JK wants to leave or get playing time. Kerr's past JK usage is the reason, not the money.

JK's side is saying pay him enough with a player option to be traded... so he has some vision into his future. Or else he takes the QO to be certain to leave. He is not asking for the max.... that is so Jimmy Kimmel.

[NW]

Jeff Teague doesn’t believe Steph Curry, Draymond Green, or Jimmy Butler will be mad at Jonathan Kuminga for holding up the Warriors offseason

“They all veterans, they know he trying to lock in his money. They ain’t gonna be mad at him.”

(Via @club520podcast)

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Curry and Jimmy got theirs. Didn't see them take less. And reason JK money issue is happening. They know better to complain.

Curry and Jimmy earned theirs. Kuminga wants his based on potential and the dumbest team in the league offering him $90 mil even though they can’t give it to him cap wise

[NW]

JK wants to leave or get playing time. Kerr's past JK usage is the reason, not the money.

JK's side is saying pay him enough with a player option to be traded... so he has some vision into his future. Or else he takes the QO to be certain to leave. He is not asking for the max.... that is so Jimmy Kimmel.

Dude wants 3 years guaranteed from the team that isn’t likely to give him playing time. So money not mattering is BS.

If he’s traded, he goes to a team that wants him, or just wants his contract. So by that theory, he goes to a team that will give him all he wants (cause a team looking to keep him isn’t trading for a$75 mil 8th man) or a team that only wants his contract, won’t take the option and may buy him out so gets his UFA dream with $45 mil for his trouble.

He wants full control or a contract where he outlasts Kerr and company. Both sides want their cake and eat it too. One is going to have to be disappointed

[whatisacenter]

And how much did Kuminga's not signing an extension before the start of last season cost him? It's disingenuous to claim that Kuminga's entire strategy in this matter has been anything other than an exercise in FAFO. For God's sake, last year at this time, the Dubs were offering Kuminga something between $100 and $150 million. And, the clown didn't take the money because he thought he was worthy of a max contract.

Report: Kuminga seeking five-year max Warriors contract

https://sports.yahoo.com/report-kuminga-seeking-five-max-032332496.html

Fourth-year forward Jonathan Kuminga is seeking a five-year, $224 million max contract from The Warriors Yahoo Sports Jake Fischer reported on the "No Cap Room" podcast.

Wasnt it reported that the Warriors didnt make an offer last offseason?

At time time, it was reported that the Dubs were considering an offering of 5 years at between $140 and $155 million for Kuminga. But, Kuminga and his agent came in at 5 years and $224 million. It's the same damned thing that happened with Victor Oladipo when Aaron Turner was representing him.

https://fadeawayworld.net/nba/golden-state-warriors/warriors-reportedly-likely-offer-jonathan-kuminga-5-year-deal-worth-140-155-million

That never happened.

The Warriors did not even engage in extension talks with JK last offseason because they didn't want to have him on a poison pill contract in the event a big trade came about....one did and they were going to include him in the package for Durant only to have KD nix the deal.

[Old_Blue]

Wasnt it reported that the Warriors didnt make an offer last offseason?

At time time, it was reported that the Dubs were considering an offering of 5 years at between $140 and $155 million for Kuminga. But, Kuminga and his agent came in at 5 years and $224 million. It's the same damned thing that happened with Victor Oladipo when Aaron Turner was representing him.

https://fadeawayworld.net/nba/golden-state-warriors/warriors-reportedly-likely-offer-jonathan-kuminga-5-year-deal-worth-140-155-million

That never happened.

The Warriors did not even engage in extension talks with JK last offseason because they didn't want to have him on a poison pill contract in the event a big trade came about....one did and they were going to include him in the package for Durant only to have KD nix the deal.

Prove that it never happened. All we know for 100% certain is that Aaron Turner's similar tactics blew up in Victor Oladipo's face. This is a pattern with Turner. But, the Dubs called the bluff and won. Personally, I am pleased to see the team playing hardball and not simply caving as they did in giving Klay the 5th year on his last contract with the team.