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Re: Warriors exploring S&T for Kuminga 

Post#3461 » by Twinkie defense » Thu Sep 25, 2025 6:04 am

whatisacenter wrote:I like JK and I wish him far away from this team and the majority of its fans.

Far away - like Xinjiang Flying Tigers...
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Re: Warriors exploring S&T for Kuminga 

Post#3462 » by Twinkie defense » Thu Sep 25, 2025 6:06 am

azwfan wrote:
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Miami actually wanted JK and not Wiggs the 1st attempt to get Jimmy. Only to have MDJ saying JK is not available. :banghead:

Oh yeah, they wanted Wiggs AND Kuminga, because why not? But Kuminga obviously wasn't a deal-breaker, was he?

Nor was podz. Not sure what point you are fishing for.

If Warriors were willing to include Podz Lauri Markkanen would be a Warrior.
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Post#3463 » by azwfan » Thu Sep 25, 2025 6:06 am

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Twinkie defense wrote:Oh yeah, they wanted Wiggs AND Kuminga, because why not? But Kuminga obviously wasn't a deal-breaker, was he?

Nor was podz. Not sure what point you are fishing for.

If Warriors were willing to include Podz Lauri Markkanen would be a Warrior.

Wrong again.
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Post#3464 » by michaelm » Thu Sep 25, 2025 6:11 am

azwfan wrote:If veteran organized team activities are so important, why havent we heard about all the vet organized mini camps Steph and Dummy organized in the previous years. Those wouldve been so valuable in recent years.

He obviously shouldn’t play without a contract.
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Post#3465 » by Twinkie defense » Thu Sep 25, 2025 6:13 am

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azwfan wrote:If veteran organized team activities are so important, why havent we heard about all the vet organized mini camps Steph and Dummy organized in the previous years. Those wouldve been so valuable in recent years.

He obviously shouldn’t play without a contract.

He's already playing. Players play.
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Re: Warriors exploring S&T for Kuminga 

Post#3466 » by Twinkie defense » Thu Sep 25, 2025 6:14 am

If a player option is so important to Kuminga I would modify the 3-year, $54 mil guaranteed deal to make year three a player option.
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Re: Warriors exploring S&T for Kuminga 

Post#3467 » by Zvaart » Thu Sep 25, 2025 7:03 am

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Zvaart wrote:I thought long and hard about it for some time now, and i think i have an opinion:

This thread won't reach 200 pages.

This kind of pessimism won’t help the cause….. ;)

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Post#3468 » by Old_Blue » Thu Sep 25, 2025 7:54 am

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If Warriors were willing to include Podz Lauri Markkanen would be a Warrior.


Are we really going to revert to the bizarre obsession with Lauri Markkanen all over again? I thought we put that $hit to sleep last off-season.
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Re: Warriors exploring S&T for Kuminga 

Post#3469 » by michaelm » Thu Sep 25, 2025 7:55 am

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Then you should know how JK feels.

I feel for him and Moody. They get jerk around only to see a white kid (and a few other whites kids of past years) not get punished for making similar mistakes.



But he and his agent seem to think he is the next LeBron James as I have said, for which there is zero evidence

If there is zero evidence, why do you think Jk and his agent think hes the next lebron? What evidence are you looking at to determine he or his agent thinks that? Was there an interview i missed?

So what do you want to do ?.

I have no problem with him going wherever he wants to go, and making a much money as he can for his family or more broadly to help people in his homeland like Hakeem. I don’t really understand how bird rights etc work though, what sort of guaranteed money can he get elsewhere ?. I am aware of more than a few players who have taken the advice of their agents or fathers and ended up with very little, money or career wise. Patrick McCaw is one example in the context of GSW, that 76ers center/Nehrlens Noel for another. Demarcus Cousins had already made a lot of money but he lost out by refusing a last big offer.

I have already said that Kerr is not the best at developing young players, but it has always looked to me that the organisation in general and particularly Lacob were desperate for him to be a success and justify them drafting him.
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Re: Warriors exploring S&T for Kuminga 

Post#3470 » by Onus » Thu Sep 25, 2025 12:03 pm

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If Warriors were willing to include Podz Lauri Markkanen would be a Warrior.


Are we really going to revert to the bizarre obsession with Lauri Markkanen all over again? I thought we put that $hit to sleep last off-season.

NGL a Curry/Buddy/Jimmy/Dray/Lauri lineup might actually work really well.
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Re: Warriors exploring S&T for Kuminga 

Post#3471 » by Onus » Thu Sep 25, 2025 12:04 pm

Zvaart wrote:
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Zvaart wrote:I thought long and hard about it for some time now, and i think i have an opinion:

This thread won't reach 200 pages.

This kind of pessimism won’t help the cause….. ;)

yes it does

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Re: Warriors exploring S&T for Kuminga 

Post#3472 » by Onus » Thu Sep 25, 2025 12:07 pm

Twinkie defense wrote:Interesting that it is reported that it's the Kings who are reaching back out about a Kuminga trade.

They reached back out without changing their offer? The warriors should say don't call us back unless keon is on the table
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Re: Warriors exploring S&T for Kuminga 

Post#3473 » by azwfan » Thu Sep 25, 2025 2:27 pm

michaelm wrote:
azwfan wrote:If veteran organized team activities are so important, why havent we heard about all the vet organized mini camps Steph and Dummy organized in the previous years. Those wouldve been so valuable in recent years.

He obviously shouldn’t play without a contract.

Regardless of Kuminga, if these things are so valuable, why havent Steph and Draymond been organizing these over the years. No wonder why team dynamics suck. The leaders dont lead, and when things go bad the fans blame the kids.
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Re: Warriors exploring S&T for Kuminga 

Post#3474 » by WarriorGM » Thu Sep 25, 2025 2:27 pm

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If Warriors were willing to include Podz Lauri Markkanen would be a Warrior.


Are we really going to revert to the bizarre obsession with Lauri Markkanen all over again? I thought we put that $hit to sleep last off-season.

NGL a Curry/Buddy/Jimmy/Dray/Lauri lineup might actually work really well.


With all the wheeling and dealing the league is involved in I'm a little surprised they haven't twisted some arms to get Lauri on the Warriors. Markkanen is a league asset that is being wasted and depreciating. Hard to think of another player who may benefit as much (and in turn the league) from proximity to Curry's magic pixie dust.
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Re: Warriors exploring S&T for Kuminga 

Post#3475 » by azwfan » Thu Sep 25, 2025 2:33 pm

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Onus wrote:
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Are we really going to revert to the bizarre obsession with Lauri Markkanen all over again? I thought we put that $hit to sleep last off-season.

NGL a Curry/Buddy/Jimmy/Dray/Lauri lineup might actually work really well.


With all the wheeling and dealing the league is involved in I'm a little surprised they haven't twisted some arms to get Lauri on the Warriors. Markkanen is a league asset that is being wasted and depreciating. Hard to think of another player who may benefit as much (and in turn the league) from proximity to Curry's magic pixie dust.

Lauri makes $46m this year. After resigning Jk to 20ish, they could do JK, Moody, Podz, and Buddy for Lauri. I think that works (roughly salary wise). But then Lauri wouldnt have been at the player run mini camp so… all for nothing I guess.
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Re: Warriors exploring S&T for Kuminga 

Post#3476 » by Crazy-Canuck » Thu Sep 25, 2025 3:07 pm

With herro out, Miami could have interest in monk (bams college teammate). No rumor, but an idea floated about in Miami media.
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Post#3477 » by Onus » Thu Sep 25, 2025 3:30 pm

Crazy-Canuck wrote:With herro out, Miami could have interest in monk (bams college teammate). No rumor, but an idea floated about in Miami media.

Davion can't be traded until jan 15.

Maybe Fonteccio and Jovic come to the bay, Monk goes to the heat and jk goes to sac?
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Re: Warriors exploring S&T for Kuminga 

Post#3478 » by Crazy-Canuck » Thu Sep 25, 2025 3:36 pm

Onus wrote:
Crazy-Canuck wrote:With herro out, Miami could have interest in monk (bams college teammate). No rumor, but an idea floated about in Miami media.

Davion can't be traded until jan 15.

Maybe Fonteccio and Jovic come to the bay, Monk goes to the heat and jk goes to sac?


Rozier was the name mentioned.

Zero chance they give up jovic for monk. If monk had that kind of value, he'd have been traded already. Imo, one of reasons the kings want kuminga is to get off a bad contract in return.
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Re: Warriors exploring S&T for Kuminga 

Post#3479 » by AirP. » Thu Sep 25, 2025 4:24 pm

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Did you not see Podz shoot 3s at the teens percentage at the beginning of the season? He was unplayable. He never got benched. That is double standard. Because he never got benched and got playing time, he got better... oh my... what a concept.

Was he playing the role the coach asked him to play because that's how you get to play though your mistakes/bad stats(for a while at least).


JK and Moody never got a leash Podz got even when coach asked of them. Moody in many cases got hot saved the game from Podz and team sucking, did nothing wrong (actually did great on D)... get yanked, and not returned the rest of the game. Never see Podz get treated like that.

I'm not talking about doing "great" when on the court, I'm talking about doing the role that the coach asks for you because doing or not doing what the coach asks you can affect the rest of the offense/defense. This seems to be where Kuminga and Kerr don't see eye to eye, Curry is the offense currently and is easily the best player on the team, he's the engine but Kuminga wants that too and will play that way too often which can screw up what Kerr wants to do even if Kuminga scores. Butler who has carried a team to the ECF three times and twice to the finals in the last 6 years joined GS and made sure everyone knew he was there to support Curry, Butler understood his role, he went as far as to call Curry Batman while saying he was Robin.

Just play your role, gain your coach's trust and if you're really talented your role should expands to help the team win, it's not like a coach is looking to limit the team's success, the coach is trying to do what's best for the team and GS has 4 titles under him as a coach.
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Re: Warriors exploring S&T for Kuminga 

Post#3480 » by Onus » Thu Sep 25, 2025 4:31 pm

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