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Re: Free Agent/Trade/Waiver Thread, 2025-26, part 2 

Post#761 » by Dogen » Fri Sep 26, 2025 10:38 pm

redslastlaugh wrote:Did Brad just sign Wendell Moore??


EDIT: looks like Celtics added Wendell Moore Jr to a camp deal, Exhibit-10. Moore's career hasn't taken off since being a 1st round pick in 2022, perhaps because of intangibles like competitiveness and work ethic. He's worth a look


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Re: Free Agent/Trade/Waiver Thread, 2025-26, part 2 

Post#762 » by Fierce1 » Fri Sep 26, 2025 11:17 pm

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Fierce1 wrote:Jabari Smith Jr. and Tatum are basically playing the same position.

I don't know about the fit as both Smith Jr. and Tatum are really not SFs and not really PFs either.


On defense is where that matters most. Gotta believe one of those 2 is capable of guarding 3's right?

Tatum can defend 3s.

But the Celts will be more balanced with DWhite than Smith Jr.
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Re: Free Agent/Trade/Waiver Thread, 2025-26, part 2 

Post#763 » by djFan71 » Fri Sep 26, 2025 11:18 pm

Dogen wrote:
redslastlaugh wrote:Did Brad just sign Wendell Moore??


EDIT: looks like Celtics added Wendell Moore Jr to a camp deal, Exhibit-10. Moore's career hasn't taken off since being a 1st round pick in 2022, perhaps because of intangibles like competitiveness and work ethic. He's worth a look



Man, Brad is just raiding the Wolves deep roster this summer.
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Re: Free Agent/Trade/Waiver Thread, 2025-26, part 2 

Post#764 » by Dogen » Fri Sep 26, 2025 11:22 pm

I like Moore just fine. The C's seem to be stockpiling middling wings. I suspect there is a larger deal looming, but very hard to predict who's here when the dust settles. Or, could be my imagination and this is the team for most of the season. Taking the middle path, this is probably the team until at least December 15th.

Brad must be on the wires pretty much nonstop.
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Re: Free Agent/Trade/Waiver Thread, 2025-26, part 2 

Post#765 » by Fierce1 » Fri Sep 26, 2025 11:34 pm

Dogen wrote:I like Moore just fine. The C's seem to be stockpiling middling wings. I suspect there is a larger deal looming, but very hard to predict who's here when the dust settles. Or, could be my imagination and this is the team for most of the season. Taking the middle path, this is probably the team until at least December 15th.

Brad must be on the wires pretty much nonstop.

Yup!

December 15 is the most realistic date to tweak the roster.

Cs would have played 24 games by that time.

If the team is not looking good, I think Brad might make changes on Dec. 15.

But if the Cs are 14-6 or 13-7 after 20 games, I think Brad might hold off on making a move.
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Re: Free Agent/Trade/Waiver Thread, 2025-26, part 2 

Post#766 » by fallguy » Fri Sep 26, 2025 11:48 pm

Dogen wrote:I like Moore just fine. The C's seem to be stockpiling middling wings. I suspect there is a larger deal looming, but very hard to predict who's here when the dust settles. Or, could be my imagination and this is the team for most of the season. Taking the middle path, this is probably the team until at least December 15th.

Brad must be on the wires pretty much nonstop.


Yeah, probably half this roster will be gone in 12 months. If not more.
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Re: Free Agent/Trade/Waiver Thread, 2025-26, part 2 

Post#767 » by Curmudgeon » Sat Sep 27, 2025 12:45 am

Looks like Maine could be pretty good with all of these Exhibit 10's. Maybe they'll win a championship even if the Celtics don't.
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Re: Free Agent/Trade/Waiver Thread, 2025-26, part 2 

Post#768 » by Hal14 » Sat Sep 27, 2025 1:01 am

Dogen wrote:I like Moore just fine. The C's seem to be stockpiling middling wings. I suspect there is a larger deal looming, but very hard to predict who's here when the dust settles. Or, could be my imagination and this is the team for most of the season. Taking the middle path, this is probably the team until at least December 15th.

Brad must be on the wires pretty much nonstop.

Yeah it is interesting how Brad is going out of his way to get all of these fringe wings. Luis, Harper, Moore, Bridges, Brown. Maybe Brad is really hoping that at least 1 of them will really pop.

I'm kind of out on Harper as being an NBA guy. He was undrafted..and that was a few yrs ago and he still hasn't done anything in the NBA..and last year in preseason for us he didn't really show anything..hasn't done much for us in summer league either. At this point I'm pretty sure he's a career g league/overseas guy..of course, nothing wrong with that, he can still have a solid pro career for himself. But not an NBA guy imo.

The others I think all have at least somewhat of a chance. Like I think it could be pretty interesting with possibly Moore, Bridges and Brown all battling to try and take that last 2-way spot from Luis. And I think all 4 of those guys..whoever gets the 2-way spot has a chance to possibly get more NBA mins this season than Hugo..who knows, they may even leapfrog walsh or baylor or Minott on the depth chart.

Gonna be interesting in training camp/preseason to see who emerges from that group..those practices should be pretty competitive with all of those guys (and Harper too) all going hard to try and prove they're the best of that bunch.
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Re: Free Agent/Trade/Waiver Thread, 2025-26, part 2 

Post#769 » by Smart2Nesmith43 » Sat Sep 27, 2025 1:31 am

redslastlaugh wrote:Did Brad just sign Wendell Moore??


EDIT: looks like Celtics added Wendell Moore Jr to a camp deal, Exhibit-10. Moore's career hasn't taken off since being a 1st round pick in 2022, perhaps because of intangibles like competitiveness and work ethic. He's worth a look

Moore, Minott and Garza. I like each of them fine individually but is the plan really to sign every guy that spend the 2023-2024 season wasting his time on the end of the Timberwolves bench ? It's underwhelming if so.
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Re: Free Agent/Trade/Waiver Thread, 2025-26, part 2 

Post#770 » by Fierce1 » Sat Sep 27, 2025 1:59 am

There's a scenario where the Cs trade Sam and 2 more vet minimum guys for 2nd round picks so that the Cs will fall below the 1st apron.

But the Cs will still be over the repeater threshold.

That's just one option as 14 standard contracts are needed for a complete NBA roster.

The easiest option is to trade Simons for a player with a salary of 14m.
Easier said than done though.
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Re: Free Agent/Trade/Waiver Thread, 2025-26, part 2 

Post#771 » by redslastlaugh » Sat Sep 27, 2025 2:25 am

Hal14 wrote:
Dogen wrote:I like Moore just fine. The C's seem to be stockpiling middling wings. I suspect there is a larger deal looming, but very hard to predict who's here when the dust settles. Or, could be my imagination and this is the team for most of the season. Taking the middle path, this is probably the team until at least December 15th.

Brad must be on the wires pretty much nonstop.

Yeah it is interesting how Brad is going out of his way to get all of these fringe wings. Luis, Harper, Moore, Bridges, Brown. Maybe Brad is really hoping that at least 1 of them will really pop.

Like I think it could be pretty interesting with possibly Moore, Bridges and Brown all battling to try and take that last 2-way spot from Luis. And I think all 4 of those guys..whoever gets the 2-way spot has a chance to possibly get more NBA mins this season than Hugo..who knows, they may even leapfrog walsh or baylor or Minott on the depth chart. Those practices should be pretty competitive with all of those guys (and Harper too) all going hard to try and prove they're the best of that bunch.

The criticism I've heard of Wendell Moore is he has a tepid motor or just doesn't have that dog in him.

Jalen Bridges seems pretty limited to me, he seems like a player that couldve eaten playing with James Harden 8 yrs ago in Houston, like Danuel House, but is maybe too limited beyond catch and shoot to really stick in 2025.

Kendall Brown reminds me of Gerald Green a little bit, thought he looked good in summer league.

RJ Luis seems interesting to me as guy who attacks from the mid range and seems good motor, good athlete

Minott racks up stats in short minutes but he seems spacey like a lack of concentration in the little Ive seen of him

Baylor Scheierman and Jordan Walsh are not locks to be extended at this point. Between all these guys, including Baylor and Walsh. If we find *ONE* starting level wing, like player who can reproduce Robert Covington's career, we are going to be in pretty good shape. We just need 1 of these guys to find his inner Aaron Wiggins and I'll be happy!
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Re: Free Agent/Trade/Waiver Thread, 2025-26, part 2 

Post#772 » by Curmudgeon » Sat Sep 27, 2025 2:32 am

I'm not interested in any of them except Minott, who could turn out to be something. The rest are just practice players or end of the bench guys-- and that includes Walsh and probably Scheierman.
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Re: Free Agent/Trade/Waiver Thread, 2025-26, part 2 

Post#773 » by Hal14 » Sat Sep 27, 2025 3:02 am

redslastlaugh wrote:Jalen Bridges seems pretty limited to me, he seems like a player that couldve eaten playing with James Harden 8 yrs ago in Houston, like Danuel House, but is maybe too limited beyond catch and shoot to really stick in 2025.

I get that concern for sure. But there's also at least somewhat of a chance that he's some combination of Amir Coffey/Dorian Finney-Smith/Royce O'Neal/Torrey Craig.

So certainly at least worth a training camp flier imo.
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Re: Free Agent/Trade/Waiver Thread, 2025-26, part 2 

Post#774 » by Dogen » Sat Sep 27, 2025 3:35 am

Time to play Wheel of Wings, Ladies and Germs!

Let's see... rules are that I will post who I think from the Gnarly Nine will have the most success in their Celtic career, best to worst, and y'all are free to laugh at my picks, agree or disagree, or make yer own list. This is pretty random at this point and success here means combo of short and long term playing time with the big club, but here goes:

    1. González
    2. Scheierman
    3. Minott
    4. Walsh
    5. Luis Jr.
    6. Moore Jr.
    7. Bridges
    8. Brown
    9. Harper

Maybe nothing too shocking there. Hugo gets the top nod as I think Brad really sees something in him and he'll separate from the pack given time. Scheierman and Minott will likely get minutes earlier. Walsh it's hard to say, he could move the chart up quickly, or be out as his contract is only partially guaranteed.

The rest it's take your pick. Moore has NBA experience, and I like Bridges OK in the limited time in summer league and clips, but gave RJ the nod because he's got the upside and maybe a chip on his shoulder. And **** Rick Pitino.
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Re: Free Agent/Trade/Waiver Thread, 2025-26, part 2 

Post#775 » by Curmudgeon » Sat Sep 27, 2025 4:10 am

Hugo, Minot and maybe Scheierman, although he is a longshot. The rest are Portland bound if they are lucky. I'd rather have Jay Scrubb than most of them. Scrubb is currently under contract in Turkey.
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Re: Free Agent/Trade/Waiver Thread, 2025-26, part 2 

Post#776 » by Dogen » Sat Sep 27, 2025 5:11 am

Curmudgeon wrote:Hugo, Minot and maybe Scheierman, although he is a longshot. The rest are Portland bound if they are lucky. I'd rather have Jay Scrubb than most of them. Scrubb is currently under contract in Turkey.


Hmmm, I need to see Minott's shooting more. Then again, Scheierman's shot is pretty funky too, and Minott is younger, taller, longer, and can physically do things that Scheierman can only dream of. Baylor has the court vision and passing.

We'll see, I guess it depends on what the team needs. Minott may move right into the rotation, and Scheierman could get squeezed out if the team wants to bring along young Hugo. Hugo can also handle the ball, perhaps with less flash but better on the ball D than Scheierman. González may be young, but has pro experience. I think with a full camp he'll settle in and adjust better than he did at the summer league.
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Re: Free Agent/Trade/Waiver Thread, 2025-26, part 2 

Post#777 » by celtxman » Sat Sep 27, 2025 1:24 pm

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Fierce1 wrote:To me, a godfather offer would have to be Amen Thompson and 2 or 3 picks for DWhite.

It's not just White's talent, it's also his great fit with the Cs and the Jays that make White so valuable to the Cs.

Rockets would never do that.

Amen on his own has more trade value than D-white.

This is a recent ranking of the top 30 players in the league in terms of trade value.

https://www.thescore.com/nba/news/3327852

Amen is 15th on there. White falls just outside of the top 30.
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Re: Free Agent/Trade/Waiver Thread, 2025-26, part 2 

Post#778 » by celtxman » Sat Sep 27, 2025 1:28 pm

Curmudgeon wrote:I'm not interested in any of them except Minott, who could turn out to be something. The rest are just practice players or end of the bench guys-- and that includes Walsh and probably Scheierman.

Yeah I was optimistic about Scheierman until I saw him In Summer League. Let's hope that he just had a bad week.
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Re: Free Agent/Trade/Waiver Thread, 2025-26, part 2 

Post#779 » by Fierce1 » Sat Sep 27, 2025 1:55 pm

I just checked the Houston Rockets roster and they're so unbalanced right now.

They have 3 Centers and besides Sengun, both Adams and Capela are NBA starting Centers.
There's also multiple rotation players who can play SF and PF.
But both guard spots are so weak right now.
They really have no guard that's considered an NBA starter.

If the goal is to win a chip with KD now and next season, they have to have a player like Derrick White.

No doubt Amen Thompson has star potential and will be playing at a high level for the next 10 years.

But there's just no way the Rockets are coming close to beating OKC and the Nuggets with this current roster.

It's like they have a G-League set of guards.

Only Aaron Holiday is considered a legit NBA guard.

So if it's just about fit and not about talent, DWhite is going to be a better fit than Amen Thompson at this point in time.
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Re: Free Agent/Trade/Waiver Thread, 2025-26, part 2 

Post#780 » by Fierce1 » Sat Sep 27, 2025 2:07 pm

But because of all the trade restrictions on a lot of the Rockets players, the Cs and Rockets will not be able to do a deal, involving White or Simons, at this point in time.

What the Celtics can do right now is PP and Tillman for Amen Thompson.
But we all know that heavily favors the Celtics.

Looks like it's going to be December 15 for the Rockets.

I will not be surprised if the Rockets are a struggling team until December 15.

Just look at their guards.

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