Higher all time. Westbrook or Irving?
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Higher all time. Westbrook or Irving?
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Higher all time. Westbrook or Irving?
One guy has a MVP. The other has a ring.
Westbrook was a beast for a decade.
Irving was elite when available.
Who you got?
Westbrook was a beast for a decade.
Irving was elite when available.
Who you got?
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At their best, I'd rather have Irving -- warts and all.
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There's a reason he's called Westbrick.
Kyrie is the better player by a mile all things considered.
Kyrie is the better player by a mile all things considered.
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Westbrook was MVP. Was Kyrie ever a top 10 player in the league?
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If Kyrie showed up for work more consistently I’d probably take him. Efficiency is a big thing for me.
I think Russell’s MVP campaign is overrated and that he should not have won it but it’s still hard to argue with his body of work over Kyrie, who throughout his prime just had a hard time playing a complete season.
I think Russell’s MVP campaign is overrated and that he should not have won it but it’s still hard to argue with his body of work over Kyrie, who throughout his prime just had a hard time playing a complete season.
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Holy ****, some people are actually voting Kyrie? That’s insane. Russ is a top 30 all-time player. He won MVP with one of the best scoring seasons in history WHILE averaging a triple double.
IDK that Kyrie would make my top 300. Has he ever even been a top 10 player in the league for a single season? Like he’s got a flashy handle, cool, but his career’s about as close to Westbrook’s career is to Jordan’s.
IDK that Kyrie would make my top 300. Has he ever even been a top 10 player in the league for a single season? Like he’s got a flashy handle, cool, but his career’s about as close to Westbrook’s career is to Jordan’s.
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Westbrook
1x MVP
8x top-12 in MVP voting
2x 1st team all-NBA
5x 2nd team all-NBA
2x 3rd team all-NBA
9x all star
Irving
0x MVP
0x top-12 in MVP voting
0x 1st team all-NBA
1x 2nd team all-NBA
2x 3rd team all-NBA
9x all star
1x MVP
8x top-12 in MVP voting
2x 1st team all-NBA
5x 2nd team all-NBA
2x 3rd team all-NBA
9x all star
Irving
0x MVP
0x top-12 in MVP voting
0x 1st team all-NBA
1x 2nd team all-NBA
2x 3rd team all-NBA
9x all star
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Kyrie Irving is one of the most overrated players we've witnessed.
Westbrook clears.
Westbrook clears.
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Westbrook
1 MVP
9x all-NBA
70th all time in WS
30th all time in VORP
Kyrie
0 MVPs
3x all-NBA
123rd all time in WS
50th all time in VORP
I’ve been critical of Westbrook and Kyrie played really well in the 2016 finals, but there isn’t much a choice here.
1 MVP
9x all-NBA
70th all time in WS
30th all time in VORP
Kyrie
0 MVPs
3x all-NBA
123rd all time in WS
50th all time in VORP
I’ve been critical of Westbrook and Kyrie played really well in the 2016 finals, but there isn’t much a choice here.
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Caneman786 wrote:Kyrie Irving is one of the most overrated players we've witnessed.
Westbrook clears.
I see what you did there

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Westbrook's resume frankly blows away Kyrie's, it's not even remotely close.
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Westbrook has far and away had a better career than Kyrie Irving.
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SA37 wrote:Caneman786 wrote:Kyrie Irving is one of the most overrated players we've witnessed.
Westbrook clears.
I see what you did there
I don't get it honestly
Is there something about the word witness?
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I think WB at worst is like 50-55. Kyrie at best is prob like 65-70. To put it another way, WB has an mvp and finished top 5 in mvp voting 4 years in a row while Kyrie otoh has never finished top 15 in mvp voting even once. Also, to put it one more way, WB has played 80+ games 7x in his career while Kyrie has played over 60 only 4 times.
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iggymcfrack wrote:Holy ****, some people are actually voting Kyrie? That’s insane. Russ is a top 30 all-time player. He won MVP with one of the best scoring seasons in history WHILE averaging a triple double.
IDK that Kyrie would make my top 300. Has he ever even been a top 10 player in the league for a single season? Like he’s got a flashy handle, cool, but his career’s about as close to Westbrook’s career is to Jordan’s.
Meh, 20% of the vote doesn't phase me. Irving simply doesn't have the impact or availability, but he has an aesthetically pleasing game and a chip, so I guess that will sway some people.
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I wouldn't want either to be the number one option on my team but Westbrook has the better career, Kyrie is just a better fit on most teams when healthy.
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Wait… are we thinking about this all wrong?
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Kyrie has been dining on that shot for a long time now.
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wrong threat