Jayson Tatum Thread

[GoCeltics123]

I hear what you're saying GC but what in Brad and Wyc's history suggests they're lying about this? What in Joe's history suggests that this team is gonna lie down? I mean, sure injury could change everything but a healthy team has too much talent to be bad in this conference. This feels like wishful thinking. Something I know too well because I rarely get what I want. But Tatum's gonna make it back sometime this season and this team is gonna want to be in the best possible position when they do.

Luka

Garza

You know he signed him to a 2 year GUARANTEED deal right? Not 1, just for a tank job. TWO. And wait til you hear that Brad has been hot after Garza for the last 2 years. This is not a tank commander. This is someone Brad REALLY likes and has liked for a while now. Just sayin.

If he was hot after Garza for years, then Garza would be wearing a Celtics uniform by now. He wasn't.

Listen, I get that there's a minute possibility that Garza could become a Kornet-type where he goes from laughing stock to legit NBA player, but Kornet is 7'3 with legit Basketball IQ who was great at PnR defense. Garza has been legit nothing in the NBA, a nobody who said himself his top NBA skill is that he plays hard.

Garza was a great college player who shot very well from 3, so if he can become a 38+% 3 point shooter then maybe he'll become something. Anything but that he's a tanking mascot, 2 year deal or no. **** we gave Tilllman a 2 year deal and his knees are shot to hell

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Luka

Garza

You know he signed him to a 2 year GUARANTEED deal right? Not 1, just for a tank job. TWO. And wait til you hear that Brad has been hot after Garza for the last 2 years. This is not a tank commander. This is someone Brad REALLY likes and has liked for a while now. Just sayin.

If he was hot after Garza for years, then Garza would be wearing a Celtics uniform by now. He wasn't.

Listen, I get that there's a minute possibility that Garza could become a Kornet-type where he goes from laughing stock to legit NBA player, but Kornet is 7'3 with legit Basketball IQ who was great at PnR defense. Garza has been legit nothing in the NBA, a nobody who said himself his top NBA skill is that he plays hard.

Garza was a great college player who shot very well from 3, so if he can become a 38+% 3 point shooter then maybe he'll become something. Anything but that he's a tanking mascot, 2 year deal or no. **** we gave Tilllman a 2 year deal and his knees are shot to hell

The reason he wasn't is because Minny wanted to hold onto him for roster depth so they turned Brad down every time. Swear I'm not making this up. Check Noa's recent pod. Anyway, Brad likes him a lot; clearly more than you. That's cool. I'm not gonna sit here and talk up Garza to you. That feels like a waste of your time. We'll all see what happens. The bigger point is just that the signing of Garza is not indicative of a tank. In fact, everyone in that organization seems that we can develop young players and yet still be a dangerous team in the regular season. Even moreso if JT comes back before the season ends which is clearly on the table. Don't blame you for preferring the lottery option one bit.

Lastly, Brad is not like Danny who loved to play the subterfuge game with everyone. Other than the fact that Brad doesn't often let news escape, he otherwise tends to be pretty transparent about what his motivations. And when he doesn't speak, his moves speak pretty plainly for him if we just look at his patterns. He's surprisingly straightforward in that way.

[Smart2Nesmith43]

Luka

Garza

You know he signed him to a 2 year GUARANTEED deal right? Not 1, just for a tank job. TWO. And wait til you hear that Brad has been hot after Garza for the last 2 years. This is not a tank commander. This is someone Brad REALLY likes and has liked for a while now. Just sayin.

If he was hot after Garza for years, then Garza would be wearing a Celtics uniform by now. He wasn't.

Listen, I get that there's a minute possibility that Garza could become a Kornet-type where he goes from laughing stock to legit NBA player, but Kornet is 7'3 with legit Basketball IQ who was great at PnR defense. Garza has been legit nothing in the NBA, a nobody who said himself his top NBA skill is that he plays hard.

Garza was a great college player who shot very well from 3, so if he can become a 38+% 3 point shooter then maybe he'll become something. Anything but that he's a tanking mascot, 2 year deal or no. **** we gave Tilllman a 2 year deal and his knees are shot to hell

If I tell you player A didn't play because he couldn't beat out Gobert, Reid, Towns and Randle for minutes and player B didn't play because he couldn't beat out any NBA bigs for minutes on four different teams in the span of two seasons who do you think would be most likely to stick in the league ?

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Luka

Garza

You know he signed him to a 2 year GUARANTEED deal right? Not 1, just for a tank job. TWO. And wait til you hear that Brad has been hot after Garza for the last 2 years. This is not a tank commander. This is someone Brad REALLY likes and has liked for a while now. Just sayin.

If he was hot after Garza for years, then Garza would be wearing a Celtics uniform by now. He wasn't.

Eh, not necessarily. Sometimes these things take time. We were looking at Springer before the draft, but it wasn't until 2.5 years later that we traded for him.

Brad said when we traded for Jrue that he had wanted him for many, many years before finally being able to acquire him.

Rumor has it we were interested in Queta the year he got drafted, but it wasn't until 2 years later that we signed him

It doesn't seem very farfetched that Brad had his eyes on Garza for a couple years before being able to bring him on..

[Triple M]

I wasnt expecting JT media day. He sounded less boring and more open and confident

[bigfoot_cryptozoology]

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Tatum's nickname is Big Pharma...

[bisme37]

I should probably be on the side of hoping he sits out the year but at this point I'm getting pretty excited about him coming back next Thursday lol.

(Dr. Martin) O'Malley says that Tatum's progress has been impressive: "I don't think I've seen a person's calf look as strong as his. At six or eight weeks he was doing double heel rises. He worked his calf so hard that the side effect of loss of strength, I don't think he's going to have any."

Tatum says he's laser focused on his goal of returning to the court—possibly, he says, before the end of the season: " I’m doing everything in my power to get back as healthy as I can, as fast as I can. Nobody's putting any pressure on me to come back at a certain point. But I'm also not ruling out that I'm not playing this season. The first most important thing is making a full recovery, being back 100% before I step on the floor, not compromising anything, I'm still only 27, I got a lot of basketball left. I'm not rushing it."

And, he says, he's determined to show his kids that he's working hard to get there: “What kind of a life lesson is that if I was like, 'This might be too much, I'll just call it quits'?” he says. “As a parent, you want your kids to be proud of you, I want them to look at me like, ‘He showed me what it’s like to fight through adversity. I want my kids to see that Dad didn’t give up.’”

https://people.com/nba-star-jayson-tatum-reveals-agony-of-ruptured-achilles-tendon-how-sons-kept-spirits-up-11813773

[itrsteve]

Incredible that he's recovering at this pace. Love his dedication to accelerating his rehab vs mailing it in and will garner a new-found respect for him across the league and it's fans.

It may sound nuts but I think his injury is going to have a silver lining for the C's long term. Similar to Hayward's clearing the way for a rookie to vault onto the mainstage instantly vs being a bench player on a relatively stacked roster.

1. It accelerated the roster reboot - it was necessary and needed to happen, running it back with that squad another season or two likely wasn't going to get it done again. Even if we somehow got past NYK (doubtful) - the urge would have been to run it back or at minimum made Brad's life very difficult to perform a major salary re-tool

2. Jaylen Brown is going to grow by default - I his efficiency numbers will take a hit but he's 100% going to be tested by defenses and he's going to come out of it on the other side significantly better on the offensive end. When JT finally returns to the floor is going to look much different for JB and we'll see the net benefit of his growth during the tough months.

3. The reboot got us younger - a low-to-no expectation season will be a huge development opportunity (or at least many months of the season) for these young guys to refine their craft. The top tier teams are quick, agile and young. Now we'll have a few months for these guys to get some burn and I'm confident our coaching staff will get a lot out of them. We'll get to go back to being the hunters vs the hunted.

It's been a long off season but we have a good one coming.

[Parliament10]

Notice in all of this, that the Celtics have never even mentioned applying for a Disable Player Exception, for Tatum.
Quietly, they must be content with rolling the dice?

[bucknersrevenge]

Notice in all of this, that the Celtics have never even mentioned applying for a Disable Player Exception, for Tatum.
Quietly, they must be content with rolling the dice?

Another great point.

[ThePigeon]

JT, as a true competitor, wants to set the record for fastest coming back from ACL tear in NBA history

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JT, as a true competitor, wants to set the record for fastest coming back from ACL tear in NBA history

No thanks.

The faster you come back from injury, the higher the chances are for re-injury.

[GoCeltics123]

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He looks awesome honestly. I stand by what I said that I wouldn't bring him back this year just because I think this team is going to be really bad and I don't see a point but JT's rehab seems to be going great

[jmr07019]

I was worried we could have another Gordon Hayward situation on our hands but that video is very encouraging. I figured when they said return to court it would be free throws or stationary dribbling type of work. He's moving pretty good out there.

[GoCeltics123]

I was worried we could have another Gordon Hayward situation on our hands but that video is very encouraging. I figured when they said return to court it would be free throws or stationary dribbling type of work. He's moving pretty good out there.

No matter when fans want him to come back (next season, late this season, etc.) the video is absolutely encouraging. He's shooting, cutting a bit and jogging at 4 1/2 months

[brackdan70]

Very encouraging video. Though he is going at less than 50% right. Way less.
Great to see him and hear all the reports of him working his ass off.
I hope he doesn’t rush things….i have fear about that. I am ok with a less than stellar season and a better draft pick than usual.

[fallguy]

Incredible footage. I do wonder if this is typical of guys returning from this injury or if he's way ahead of schedule. It looks impressive but who knows?

But there's no point in rushing back. We can't do anything in the playoffs with our front court.

[bucknersrevenge]

I don't think this is a matter of rushing vs not rushing. JT knows his body very well. And Nick Sang, his personal trainer has been very good at keeping him in top physical condition. Like Brad, there will be a lot of people in the room when it comes to making the decision of when he's actually back on a court for real. And I highly doubt any consideration will be on the current roster makeup. Brad just doesn't think/operate that way. He never has. Nor is draft position a consideration in Brad's mind either. All I'm saying is prepare for disappointment if you don't think Brad or Joe, or Tatum won't sacrifice this team's draft prospects at the altar of getting him back on the floor. That is inevitable.

[Parliament10]

I don't think this is a matter of rushing vs not rushing. JT knows his body very well. And Nick Sang, his personal trainer has been very good at keeping him in top physical condition. Like Brad, there will be a lot of people in the room when it comes to making the decision of when he's actually back on a court for real. And I highly doubt any consideration will be on the current roster makeup. Brad just doesn't think/operate that way. He never has. Nor is draft position a consideration in Brad's mind either. All I'm saying is prepare for disappointment if you don't think Brad or Joe, or Tatum won't sacrifice this team's draft prospects at the altar of getting him back on the floor. That is inevitable.

Definitely. = I can't see him working out like this, and not coming back this Season.
And it's not a matter of "if" he's coming back this year. It's a matter of "when". Like you said, it's inevitable.

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Edit:
Tatum, in the video, is talking about being "Rusty".
Imagine thinking that, after a Season-Ending Injury, just 4.5 months ago.