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Post#281 » by emunney » Wed Oct 1, 2025 1:46 pm

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He shouldn’t feel guilty but he shouldn’t be surprised when he is punished for breaking an obvious league rule


Kind of feel like he should feel guilty though?


Seems like he was only stealing money from billionaires which is fine by me. At least it’s not like Favre stealing welfare money.


He's not stealing it. It's closer to accepting a bribe. It's corrupt.
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Re: ATL - Kuminga Signs 2 Years/$48.5 Million Deal 

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Post#283 » by Ron Swanson » Thu Oct 2, 2025 12:27 am

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Re: ATL - Kuminga Signs 2 Years/$48.5 Million Deal 

Post#284 » by PG Graveyard » Thu Oct 2, 2025 12:40 am

That seems like a lot for him right?
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Re: ATL - Kuminga Signs 2 Years/$48.5 Million Deal 

Post#285 » by ShootingtheJ » Thu Oct 2, 2025 12:52 am

PG Graveyard wrote:That seems like a lot for him right?


Yup, that's a lot for a soft player.
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Post#286 » by drew881 » Thu Oct 2, 2025 2:03 am

Probably not good for our Dairy negotiations.
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Omg this is nepotism, he's only there to make his brother happy. His brother is the franchise... Something something about this being bad.
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Post#289 » by Plossum » Thu Oct 2, 2025 3:15 pm

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Re: ATL - Kuminga Signs 2 Years/$48.5 Million Deal 

Post#290 » by Ron Swanson » Thu Oct 2, 2025 3:52 pm

That latest Embiid expose (or hit piece?) certainly points to both parties wanting to part ways as soon as theoretically possible. Have to wonder if they've already mutually agreed to find any trade so long as he can suit up for a few games and look even remotely close to his 2023 self (he didn't last season). I mean, stuff like this about your franchise player doesn't get leaked to the media unless you're desperate to find an off-ramp:

"The organization was built around one guy who doesn't trust anyone and mostly keeps to himself," one former Sixers staffer said. When Embiid appeared in just 19 games last season, that isolation created organizational chaos.

Embiid's refusal to communicate about his injury status extended beyond the public to internal stakeholders. Players frequently arrived at work unaware whether their star would suit up. Coaches often learned Embiid's status during pregame warmups, sometimes less than an hour before tipoff.

"With Joel, even if there is a plan in place, you can't say anything about it," a second former team staffer said.


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Post#291 » by MartyConlonOnTheRun » Thu Oct 2, 2025 4:30 pm

Ron Swanson wrote:That latest Embiid expose (or hit piece?) certainly points to both parties wanting to part ways as soon as theoretically possible. Have to wonder if they've already mutually agreed to find any trade so long as he can suit up for a few games and look even remotely close to his 2023 self (he didn't last season). I mean, stuff like this about your franchise player doesn't get leaked to the media unless you're desperate to find an off-ramp:

"The organization was built around one guy who doesn't trust anyone and mostly keeps to himself," one former Sixers staffer said. When Embiid appeared in just 19 games last season, that isolation created organizational chaos.

Embiid's refusal to communicate about his injury status extended beyond the public to internal stakeholders. Players frequently arrived at work unaware whether their star would suit up. Coaches often learned Embiid's status during pregame warmups, sometimes less than an hour before tipoff.

"With Joel, even if there is a plan in place, you can't say anything about it," a second former team staffer said.


Woof.

I wonder what the guy's value is? Depending on how this year goes, it could be one of the worst contracts in the league. There is a 5% chance he gets healthy and has a Top 5 season, 45% chance of off and on 55 game season, and 50% chance he is a total shell of himself owed $240m over the next 4 years. Even so, I could have drunkenly talked myself into a Dame(+Assets)-Embiid centric trade a month ago and just tell Embiid to workout in a gym until late March and slowly ramp up for the playoffs.
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Re: ATL - Kuminga Signs 2 Years/$48.5 Million Deal 

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Omg this is nepotism, he's only there to make his brother happy. His brother is the franchise... Something something about this being bad.

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Re: ATL - Kuminga Signs 2 Years/$48.5 Million Deal 

Post#294 » by MickeyDavis » Thu Oct 2, 2025 5:19 pm

Non contact injury. Hopefully not serious. Robinson 16 boards in the first half.
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Re: ATL - Kuminga Signs 2 Years/$48.5 Million Deal 

Post#295 » by Plossum » Fri Oct 3, 2025 12:48 am

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Ron Swanson wrote:That latest Embiid expose (or hit piece?) certainly points to both parties wanting to part ways as soon as theoretically possible. Have to wonder if they've already mutually agreed to find any trade so long as he can suit up for a few games and look even remotely close to his 2023 self (he didn't last season). I mean, stuff like this about your franchise player doesn't get leaked to the media unless you're desperate to find an off-ramp:

"The organization was built around one guy who doesn't trust anyone and mostly keeps to himself," one former Sixers staffer said. When Embiid appeared in just 19 games last season, that isolation created organizational chaos.

Embiid's refusal to communicate about his injury status extended beyond the public to internal stakeholders. Players frequently arrived at work unaware whether their star would suit up. Coaches often learned Embiid's status during pregame warmups, sometimes less than an hour before tipoff.

"With Joel, even if there is a plan in place, you can't say anything about it," a second former team staffer said.


Woof.

I wonder what the guy's value is? Depending on how this year goes, it could be one of the worst contracts in the league. There is a 5% chance he gets healthy and has a Top 5 season, 45% chance of off and on 55 game season, and 50% chance he is a total shell of himself owed $240m over the next 4 years. Even so, I could have drunkenly talked myself into a Dame(+Assets)-Embiid centric trade a month ago and just tell Embiid to workout in a gym until late March and slowly ramp up for the playoffs.

Honestly, if I was one of those long term bum teams like Charlotte or Washington I'd be keen to take a stab at trading for him. It'll probably end in disaster but if the price is right, wtf do they have to lose?
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Re: ATL - Kuminga Signs 2 Years/$48.5 Million Deal 

Post#296 » by skbucks1985 » Fri Oct 3, 2025 1:28 pm

Ron Swanson wrote:That latest Embiid expose (or hit piece?) certainly points to both parties wanting to part ways as soon as theoretically possible. Have to wonder if they've already mutually agreed to find any trade so long as he can suit up for a few games and look even remotely close to his 2023 self (he didn't last season). I mean, stuff like this about your franchise player doesn't get leaked to the media unless you're desperate to find an off-ramp:

"The organization was built around one guy who doesn't trust anyone and mostly keeps to himself," one former Sixers staffer said. When Embiid appeared in just 19 games last season, that isolation created organizational chaos.

Embiid's refusal to communicate about his injury status extended beyond the public to internal stakeholders. Players frequently arrived at work unaware whether their star would suit up. Coaches often learned Embiid's status during pregame warmups, sometimes less than an hour before tipoff.

"With Joel, even if there is a plan in place, you can't say anything about it," a second former team staffer said.


Woof.


That Philly took VJ Edgecombe over Kon Knueppel was to me a pretty clear indication that they don't expect Embiid to ever be healthy to the point of being dependable and are no longer building around him. Because if they believed Embiid could be dependable then I think you take the guy whose ceiling is a little lower but is more likely to be able to be a playoff contributor this season.
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Re: ATL - Kuminga Signs 2 Years/$48.5 Million Deal 

Post#297 » by emunney » Fri Oct 3, 2025 2:06 pm

MartyConlonOnTheRun wrote:
Ron Swanson wrote:That latest Embiid expose (or hit piece?) certainly points to both parties wanting to part ways as soon as theoretically possible. Have to wonder if they've already mutually agreed to find any trade so long as he can suit up for a few games and look even remotely close to his 2023 self (he didn't last season). I mean, stuff like this about your franchise player doesn't get leaked to the media unless you're desperate to find an off-ramp:

"The organization was built around one guy who doesn't trust anyone and mostly keeps to himself," one former Sixers staffer said. When Embiid appeared in just 19 games last season, that isolation created organizational chaos.

Embiid's refusal to communicate about his injury status extended beyond the public to internal stakeholders. Players frequently arrived at work unaware whether their star would suit up. Coaches often learned Embiid's status during pregame warmups, sometimes less than an hour before tipoff.

"With Joel, even if there is a plan in place, you can't say anything about it," a second former team staffer said.


Woof.

I wonder what the guy's value is? Depending on how this year goes, it could be one of the worst contracts in the league. There is a 5% chance he gets healthy and has a Top 5 season, 45% chance of off and on 55 game season, and 50% chance he is a total shell of himself owed $240m over the next 4 years. Even so, I could have drunkenly talked myself into a Dame(+Assets)-Embiid centric trade a month ago and just tell Embiid to workout in a gym until late March and slowly ramp up for the playoffs.


In my view his is definitely one of the worst contracts in the league. Winning that MVP was the endpoint of his motivation. Mammoth talent with motivation issues and big physical problems catches the rabbit and hits the sad side of 30, not hard to predict what happens next. That 67m PO in 28-29 looks deranged from here. There was never a path to him making good on that.
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Re: ATL - Kuminga Signs 2 Years/$48.5 Million Deal 

Post#298 » by emunney » Fri Oct 3, 2025 2:09 pm

MickeyDavis wrote:Non contact injury. Hopefully not serious. Robinson 16 boards in the first half.


Not sure I've ever seen an untouched basketball player go down like a sack of **** with a lower back injury. Hoping for the best and separately curiously awaiting an explanation.
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Re: ATL - Kuminga Signs 2 Years/$48.5 Million Deal 

Post#299 » by raferfenix » Fri Oct 3, 2025 8:04 pm

Kuminga’s agent did get him some more guaranteed money to be fair, but seems like the Warriors just called their bluff on the QO otherwise:

Tim Bontemps: The Jonathan Kuminga camp has made a whole lot of noise for the past few months and said a whole lot of things and made a whole lot of threats, including on this pod, about going to take the qualifying offer. We got to get a trade, a player option, we got to get this, we got to get that. At the end of the day, they caved — and they totally caved. They gave up everything they said they weren't going to do. They waived their no-trade clause in this contract so the Warriors could trade them anywhere they want. They got a team option on the second year.


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Post#300 » by Matches Malone » Thu Oct 9, 2025 4:11 pm

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