Dallas Mavericks 2025 Trade thread -- Roster and Cap and the 1st page

[ACMFFL]

If AD plays 82 games and averages 35mins per game through the regular season, most fans would continue to be skeptical about his ability to make it through the grueling POs. Count me as one of them.

We all know Luka will be there come PO time no matter what.

There is absolutely a justifiable reason for Mavs fans to be critical of AD and the situation.
Two different players at 2 different levels that should have never been swapped for one another.

If fans aren't critical of the situation, what will stop it from happening again?

Being critical is not the same than being hypocritical. I mean, it's totally fair to not trust AD health, but in my opinion it's sad to see basically all the fanbase making fun of him without even bothering to know why he put on weight.

[Mavrelous]

but in my opinion it's sad to see basically all the fanbase making fun of him without even bothering to know why he put on weight.

Don't really care, he should have been more responssible, especially inisisting he wants to play PF.
He's had 3 serious injuries this calendar year, and we still have 3 months to go, asking him to not come in at 270 isn't much.
P.S. Bob didn't like criticizing Luka at the beginning of last season, but the board has been very critical of him, and Luka earned million times the credit AD earned.

[Bob8]

but in my opinion it's sad to see basically all the fanbase making fun of him without even bothering to know why he put on weight.

Don't really care, he should have been more responssible, especially inisisting he wants to play PF.
He's had 3 serious injuries this calendar year, and we still have 3 months to go, asking him to not come in at 270 isn't much.
P.S. Bob didn't like criticizing Luka at the beginning of last season, but the board has been very critical of him, and Luka earned million times the credit AD earned.

I'm also not criticising AD. I just find situation, Luka in great shape and fatty AD, extremely funny, considering Mavs' FO reasoning for the trade.

It's like changing your young and super hot wife, who gets some additional weight while having health problems, for older, less sexy but fit model and few months later your new wife is fat and old one looks better than ever.

[Mavrelous]

but in my opinion it's sad to see basically all the fanbase making fun of him without even bothering to know why he put on weight.

Don't really care, he should have been more responssible, especially inisisting he wants to play PF.
He's had 3 serious injuries this calendar year, and we still have 3 months to go, asking him to not come in at 270 isn't much.
P.S. Bob didn't like criticizing Luka at the beginning of last season, but the board has been very critical of him, and Luka earned million times the credit AD earned.

I'm also not criticising AD. I just find situation, Luka in great shape and fatty AD, extremely funny, considering Mavs' FO reasoning for the trade.

It's like changing your young and super hot wife, who gets some additional weight while having health problems, for older, less sexy but fit model and few months later your new wife is fat and old one looks better than ever.

This has been known since February 2nd, 2025, I don't think many rationalized the trade.

[Bob8]

Don't really care, he should have been more responssible, especially inisisting he wants to play PF.
He's had 3 serious injuries this calendar year, and we still have 3 months to go, asking him to not come in at 270 isn't much.
P.S. Bob didn't like criticizing Luka at the beginning of last season, but the board has been very critical of him, and Luka earned million times the credit AD earned.

I'm also not criticising AD. I just find situation, Luka in great shape and fatty AD, extremely funny, considering Mavs' FO reasoning for the trade.

It's like changing your young and super hot wife, who gets some additional weight while having health problems, for older, less sexy but fit model and few months later your new wife is fat and old one looks better than ever.

This has been known since February 2nd, 2025, I don't think many rationalized the trade.

Luka being in great shape and AD being fatty is new and funny development.

[Mavrelous]

I'm also not criticising AD. I just find situation, Luka in great shape and fatty AD, extremely funny, considering Mavs' FO reasoning for the trade.

It's like changing your young and super hot wife, who gets some additional weight while having health problems, for older, less sexy but fit model and few months later your new wife is fat and old one looks better than ever.

This has been known since February 2nd, 2025, I don't think many rationalized the trade.

Luka being in great shape and AD being fatty is new and funny development.

It really really isn't for anyone following the league, Luka came back in great shape after 22/23 failure, AD came in to camp boasting he didn't touch the ball after Lakers missed the PO in 22.

[Bob8]

This has been known since February 2nd, 2025, I don't think many rationalized the trade.

Luka being in great shape and AD being fatty is new and funny development.

It really really isn't for anyone following the league, Luka came back in great shape after 22/23 failure, AD came in to camp boasting he didn't touch the ball after Lakers missed the PO in 22.

They weren't traded for each other with hilarious reasoning back then. Luka and AD are connected now, it might not be fair to AD, not his fault, but that won't end ever.

[Mavrelous]

Luka being in great shape and AD being fatty is new and funny development.

It really really isn't for anyone following the league, Luka came back in great shape after 22/23 failure, AD came in to camp boasting he didn't touch the ball after Lakers missed the PO in 22.

They weren't traded for each other with hilarious reasoning back then. Luka and AD are connected now, it might not be fair to AD, not his fault, but that won't end ever.

You keep going back to the trade, no one thought the trade made sense, exactly for what happened after it, including this offseason, but what happened since Feb 1st, is exactly what anyone with sone sense expected, sans the Mavs winning the lottery.
No one thought AD is the guybto build a contender around except Nico Harrison.
Luka weight fluctuates and he has some major problems he seems to not want to address, AD is injury prone and also has commentment issues, Luka is younger and better and he shouldn't have been traded for AD.

[41Dirk41]

If AD plays 82 games and averages 35mins per game through the regular season, most fans would continue to be skeptical about his ability to make it through the grueling POs. Count me as one of them.

We all know Luka will be there come PO time no matter what.

There is absolutely a justifiable reason for Mavs fans to be critical of AD and the situation.
Two different players at 2 different levels that should have never been swapped for one another.

If fans aren't critical of the situation, what will stop it from happening again?

Being critical is not the same than being hypocritical. I mean, it's totally fair to not trust AD health, but in my opinion it's sad to see basically all the fanbase making fun of him without even bothering to know why he put on weight.

I bet 100$ on hamburger and chips. Easy W.

[Bob8]

It really really isn't for anyone following the league, Luka came back in great shape after 22/23 failure, AD came in to camp boasting he didn't touch the ball after Lakers missed the PO in 22.

They weren't traded for each other with hilarious reasoning back then. Luka and AD are connected now, it might not be fair to AD, not his fault, but that won't end ever.

You keep going back to the trade, no one thought the trade made sense, exactly for what happened after it, including this offseason, but what happened since Feb 1st, is exactly what anyone with sone sense expected, sans the Mavs winning the lottery.
No one thought AD is the guybto build a contender around except Nico Harrison.
Luka weight fluctuates and he has some major problems he seems to not want to address, AD is injury prone and also has commentment issues, Luka is younger and better and he shouldn't have been traded for AD.

I'm not going back to anything, trade is a fact and situation with extremely fit Luka and kinda fat AD funny. At least for me.

[Mavrelous]

They weren't traded for each other with hilarious reasoning back then. Luka and AD are connected now, it might not be fair to AD, not his fault, but that won't end ever.

You keep going back to the trade, no one thought the trade made sense, exactly for what happened after it, including this offseason, but what happened since Feb 1st, is exactly what anyone with sone sense expected, sans the Mavs winning the lottery.
No one thought AD is the guybto build a contender around except Nico Harrison.
Luka weight fluctuates and he has some major problems he seems to not want to address, AD is injury prone and also has commentment issues, Luka is younger and better and he shouldn't have been traded for AD.

I'm not going back to anything, trade is a fact and situation with extremely fit Luka and kinda fat AD funny. At least for me.

But you are, you brought it up again in the post I quoted.
I'm happy Luka is motivated and looks to be in good shape, I wish him well and root for him, I'm also happy to see what Flagg brings, and excited to see what both the Mavs and Lakers do this season.

[Bob8]

You keep going back to the trade, no one thought the trade made sense, exactly for what happened after it, including this offseason, but what happened since Feb 1st, is exactly what anyone with sone sense expected, sans the Mavs winning the lottery.
No one thought AD is the guybto build a contender around except Nico Harrison.
Luka weight fluctuates and he has some major problems he seems to not want to address, AD is injury prone and also has commentment issues, Luka is younger and better and he shouldn't have been traded for AD.

I'm not going back to anything, trade is a fact and situation with extremely fit Luka and kinda fat AD funny. At least for me.

But you are, you brought it up again in the post I quoted.
I'm happy Luka is motivated and looks to be in good shape, I wish him well and root for him, I'm also happy to see what Flagg brings, and excited to see what both the Mavs and Lakers do this season.

Situation is funny because AD is here, and he's here because the trade. We wouldn't have had any discussion about AD, if he was still a Laker. It's not going back to anything, it's just talking about things like they are. I'm sure discussion won't go away until both are retired.

Luka was always hyper motivated, that's why he was 5x in a row in first All Nba team. That's why he went alone In Spain with 13 years not even understand the language. He just isn't a player like MJ or LeBron, his mentality is totally different, you need different background to be a player like those 2.

[41Dirk41]

Honestly the situation is not so funny for me guys...

And **** the Fakers. No way i follow them. LeDiva destroyed the NBA.

[Bob8]

Honestly the situation is not so funny for me guys...

And **** the Fakers. No way i follow them. LeDiva destroyed the NBA.

It's funny, because AD ultimately doesn't matter much. The only important Mavs player to watch this season is Flagg. If he eventually becomes superstar, Mavs have bright future, if he doesn't...

[Archx]

It's still very hypocritical what you're saying. Yeah AD has to proven a lot, but that's not a good reason to ridicule him without even bothering to know the reasons why he looks thicker, that's exactly what you're doing here.
Production is totally irrelevant, AD is targeted cause fans decided he's the scapegoat, and you know it.

It looks like some of us will never be happy until this franchise is eradicated from this world.

The funnier thing is that one year ago you were doing your best to make people know that Luka looked overweight cause he had to deal with injuries, but somehow you can't do the same with AD, maybe if the latter was from Koper (amazing places btw), he would have had more tolerance and love from you

Bob actually made great points, basically same points Nico and Dumont were making to the media after the trade. Same arguments can be thrown back to their faces now. They lucked into Flagg and that is the only thing why fans will have something to be happy about for the future. You trade for AD, you know what you're getting into. AD played 2 games at 100% after the trade and in both games he got injured.

Also, no one hates the franchise, they hate people running it. Owners who are actively supporting genocide in Gaza and a GM who had no clue how popular his main guy was with the fanbase... like how can you justify all of that? Without Flagg, what would be the future of this team? I guess Dwight Powell since it looks like he'll still play on this team when he's 60yo lol.

Wait a minute, you've gone way too far here. What are we even doing here? I mean, my point was just to remark the hyprocrisy within the fanbase, AD had to deal with injury basically all the summer but nobody gave a flying F about it and decided to ridicule him for his look. How is it fair and not a toxic behaviour?
Owner, FO, are all still the scam of Earth, but they have nothing do with my argument.

"It looks like some of us will never be happy until this franchise is eradicated from this world." - This is what you wrote and i explained no one hates the franchise but they hate the owners. What is so confusing about it?

Also, Luka was mocked and hated on, exactly one season ago by Mavs fanbase, to the point that they either wanted to bench him or see him gone. People were seriously upset about the way he looked. Even though he dealt with multiple injuries through the off season, no one cared about it. So i guess you missed that.

We know about Mavs leadership comments post trade and how they saw things. I mean, i guess you also didn't know Dumont secretly filmed Doncic when he worked out on his own terms away from delusional and completely incompetent new Mavs medical team?

Now AD is in similar situation and you think people will just let it go? Nico deserves criticism for all the BS he spoke after the trade and the fact that they compared good work ethics with Shaq.

All in all, doesn't matter what kind of injury AD has, i don't care if he needed his arm to be re-attached. Point is, he's in the same situation as Luka was and he was traded, suddenly AD will be treated like it's nothing. Hypocrisy on full display and it's not my fault fans are jumping on it right away.

[41Dirk41]

Honestly the situation is not so funny for me guys...

And **** the Fakers. No way i follow them. LeDiva destroyed the NBA.

It's funny, because AD ultimately doesn't matter much. The only important Mavs player to watch this season is Flagg. If he eventually becomes superstar, Mavs have bright future, if he doesn't...

And Flagg is not a part of Nico vision... But someone in Dallas said to me that the fanbase is Happy with this FO. Ok.

[Super Cooper]

Maybe AD was just competing in "Fat Bear Week"?

[41Dirk41]

Maybe AD was just competing in "Fat Bear Week"?

Unfortunately no, he was injuried. As always.

[Super Cooper]

Maybe AD was just competing in "Fat Bear Week"?

Unfortunately no, he was injuried. As always.

Both could be true...

[Super Cooper]

Dyson Daniels... IMO is the ideal guard next to Kyrie. At 22yo he fits the Cooper timeline. I know ATL isn't itching to move the 1st team all defense, but what if/when KP gets hurt? Gaff plus picks?