Knicks Media Day/Training Camp 2025!!!!!!!!!

Wildcat · Post #341 » by **Wildcat** » Wed Oct 1, 2025 6:02 pm

TheGreenArrow wrote:

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Wow the ball is moving!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Early part of last season.

Post #342 » by **Capn'O** » Wed Oct 1, 2025 6:10 pm

Easy to move the ball during training camp when everyone isn't going full speed. I do anticipate that we'll play faster this year.

thebuzzardman · Post #343 » by **thebuzzardman** » Wed Oct 1, 2025 6:27 pm

The ball moved like that training camp vid early last season. First 25 games or so.

Teams always seem to adjust in January.

I'd suppose Brown was brought in for two reasons. That he can make adjustments to the adjustments in season but particularly the playoffs, better than Thibs. Might be true. Better be true. Might not be true.

I'd figure there was enough player noise from players considered important enough that minutes and/or offensive flexibility were reported.

I liked Thibs. It was a great story there being synergy between Leon, Thibs, Brunson.

That said, I don't think Dolan just rode in and blew that up. Leon and other members of the FO felt they needed to shake up the coaching. It might still not pan out, but I THINK the thought process was they paid a lot for Mikal and KAT and Thibs wasn't getting 100% out of them. I'd think the FO felt that Brunson, OG and Hart bring it no matter who is the coach.

god shammgod · Post #344 » by **god shammgod** » Wed Oct 1, 2025 6:48 pm

thebuzzardman wrote:The ball moved like that training camp vid early last season. First 25 games or so.

Teams always seem to adjust in January.

I'd suppose Brown was brought in for two reasons. That he can make adjustments to the adjustments in season but particularly the playoffs, better than Thibs. Might be true. Better be true. Might not be true.

I'd figure there was enough player noise from players considered important enough that minutes and/or offensive flexibility were reported.

I liked Thibs. It was a great story there being synergy between Leon, Thibs, Brunson.

That said, I don't think Dolan just rode in and blew that up. Leon and other members of the FO felt they needed to shake up the coaching. It might still not pan out, but I THINK the thought process was they paid a lot for Mikal and KAT and Thibs wasn't getting 100% out of them. I'd think the FO felt that Brunson, OG and Hart bring it no matter who is the coach.

easier to do that than blame themselves

TheGreenArrow · Post #345 » by **TheGreenArrow** » Wed Oct 1, 2025 7:15 pm

Wildcat wrote:
TheGreenArrow wrote:

Read on Twitter
?s=46&t=W09F6FrMDfp5_y1gKYgF1g

Wow the ball is moving!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Early part of last season.

Read on Twitter

?s=46&t=W09F6FrMDfp5_y1gKYgF1g

This may be different tbh!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

thebuzzardman · Post #346 » by **thebuzzardman** » Wed Oct 1, 2025 7:45 pm

god shammgod wrote:
thebuzzardman wrote:The ball moved like that training camp vid early last season. First 25 games or so.

Teams always seem to adjust in January.

I'd suppose Brown was brought in for two reasons. That he can make adjustments to the adjustments in season but particularly the playoffs, better than Thibs. Might be true. Better be true. Might not be true.

I'd figure there was enough player noise from players considered important enough that minutes and/or offensive flexibility were reported.

I liked Thibs. It was a great story there being synergy between Leon, Thibs, Brunson.

That said, I don't think Dolan just rode in and blew that up. Leon and other members of the FO felt they needed to shake up the coaching. It might still not pan out, but I THINK the thought process was they paid a lot for Mikal and KAT and Thibs wasn't getting 100% out of them. I'd think the FO felt that Brunson, OG and Hart bring it no matter who is the coach.

easier to do that than blame themselves

Might be that. But if they think he didn't get 100% from them, I think most FOs do this same thing.

All in all the Knicks have a very good team but hardly some lights out championship team.
They addressed depth in a pretty good way all things considered.

But most chip teams have two dominant creative guys and then you surround them with the necessary role players.

But it's Brunson and... KAT? Not an individual creator. Bridges? Not really either. Very good players but not the prototype.

And then the shooters are a mixed bag. OG shoots good from here, Yabu from there, Bridges from here, Deuce can't drive, Mitch can't shoot etc.

This is why that JTWill guy keeps writing encyclopedias every few days trying to figure out the lineups.

NoDopeOnSundays · Post #347 » by **NoDopeOnSundays** » Wed Oct 1, 2025 8:48 pm

Where's the Abu Dhabi game thread? Knicks are back in less than 24 hours.

Watch on YouTube

sidenote, sham played this at his wedding for the first dance.

god shammgod · Post #348 » by **god shammgod** » Wed Oct 1, 2025 8:56 pm

thebuzzardman wrote:
god shammgod wrote:
thebuzzardman wrote:The ball moved like that training camp vid early last season. First 25 games or so.

Teams always seem to adjust in January.

I'd suppose Brown was brought in for two reasons. That he can make adjustments to the adjustments in season but particularly the playoffs, better than Thibs. Might be true. Better be true. Might not be true.

I'd figure there was enough player noise from players considered important enough that minutes and/or offensive flexibility were reported.

I liked Thibs. It was a great story there being synergy between Leon, Thibs, Brunson.

That said, I don't think Dolan just rode in and blew that up. Leon and other members of the FO felt they needed to shake up the coaching. It might still not pan out, but I THINK the thought process was they paid a lot for Mikal and KAT and Thibs wasn't getting 100% out of them. I'd think the FO felt that Brunson, OG and Hart bring it no matter who is the coach.

easier to do that than blame themselves

Might be that. But if they think he didn't get 100% from them, I think most FOs do this same thing.

All in all the Knicks have a very good team but hardly some lights out championship team.
They addressed depth in a pretty good way all things considered.

But most chip teams have two dominant creative guys and then you surround them with the necessary role players.

But it's Brunson and... KAT? Not an individual creator. Bridges? Not really either. Very good players but not the prototype.

And then the shooters are a mixed bag. OG shoots good from here, Yabu from there, Bridges from here, Deuce can't drive, Mitch can't shoot etc.

This is why that JTWill guy keeps writing encyclopedias every few days trying to figure out the lineups.

they might just get away with it all though since the east is so terrible

thebuzzardman · Post #349 » by **thebuzzardman** » Wed Oct 1, 2025 8:59 pm

god shammgod wrote:
thebuzzardman wrote:
god shammgod wrote:
easier to do that than blame themselves

Might be that. But if they think he didn't get 100% from them, I think most FOs do this same thing.

All in all the Knicks have a very good team but hardly some lights out championship team.
They addressed depth in a pretty good way all things considered.

But most chip teams have two dominant creative guys and then you surround them with the necessary role players.

But it's Brunson and... KAT? Not an individual creator. Bridges? Not really either. Very good players but not the prototype.

And then the shooters are a mixed bag. OG shoots good from here, Yabu from there, Bridges from here, Deuce can't drive, Mitch can't shoot etc.

This is why that JTWill guy keeps writing encyclopedias every few days trying to figure out the lineups.

they might just get away with it all though in since the east is so terrible

Another fine entry in your damned if they do, damned if they don't campaign!

KnixinSix · Post #350 » by **KnixinSix** » Wed Oct 1, 2025 9:31 pm

thebuzzardman wrote:The ball moved like that training camp vid early last season. First 25 games or so.

Teams always seem to adjust in January.

I'd suppose Brown was brought in for two reasons. That he can make adjustments to the adjustments in season but particularly the playoffs, better than Thibs. Might be true. Better be true. Might not be true.

I'd figure there was enough player noise from players considered important enough that minutes and/or offensive flexibility were reported.

I liked Thibs. It was a great story there being synergy between Leon, Thibs, Brunson.

That said, I don't think Dolan just rode in and blew that up. Leon and other members of the FO felt they needed to shake up the coaching. It might still not pan out, but I THINK the thought process was they paid a lot for Mikal and KAT and Thibs wasn't getting 100% out of them. I'd think the FO felt that Brunson, OG and Hart bring it no matter who is the coach.

Perspective. A very wise post by the Buzzardman.

KnixinSix · Post #351 » by **KnixinSix** » Wed Oct 1, 2025 9:34 pm

mpharris36 wrote:
rajajackal wrote:
mpharris36 wrote:Mike Brown says he wants to get up 40 3's

I just dont see how we get close to that number playing the double big lineup for long stretches. KAT really isn't a self creation 3 pt shooter because he has mostly a set shot....so you need to scheme him to take a lot of 3's (meaning if wings guard him he won't get a high volume amount of 3's up he only really does that when he plays center). Mikal and OG don't take a high volume from ATB 3's they are mostly from the corner.

Brunson has stretches where he gets them up but with a 2 big lineup he struggles to get the proper spacing to do such.

I certainly want to use the double big lineup for stretches especially when interior defense is needed or we are going up against a true offensive hub center like Embiid or Joker ect...but I just have a hard time seeing the high volume of 3's without KAT at the 5.

mitch first sub out for yabusele maybe? or for clarkson

maybe but I want to avoid as much KAT and Yabu as possible. That would be a brutal defensive 4/5 and a bit slow. At least with Hart or Deuce you have some switchability and better POA defense.

Yes offensively it has potential but Yabu isn't a good defender...and neither is KAT really.

Yes that would be a rough pairing especially with Brunson on the floor too.

3toheadmelo · Post #352 » by **3toheadmelo** » Wed Oct 1, 2025 9:58 pm

Guano wrote:
TheGreenArrow wrote:

Read on Twitter

Pacome may really be the odd man out!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

rajajackal · Post #353 » by **rajajackal** » Wed Oct 1, 2025 10:15 pm

NoDopeOnSundays wrote:Where's the Abu Dhabi game thread? Knicks are back in less than 24 hours.

Watch on YouTube

sidenote, sham played this at his wedding for the first dance.

lmaoooooo why did i get such a clear visual off this

Guano · Post #354 » by **Guano** » Thu Oct 2, 2025 6:15 am

3toheadmelo wrote:
Guano wrote:
TheGreenArrow wrote:

Read on Twitter

Pacome may really be the odd man out!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Ofc a terrible person is okay with wasting a 1st on Landry shamet and the future of the league

3toheadmelo · Post #355 » by **3toheadmelo** » Thu Oct 2, 2025 10:59 am

Guano wrote:
3toheadmelo wrote:
Guano wrote:

Ofc a terrible person is okay with wasting a 1st on Landry shamet and the future of the league

Richard4444 · Post #356 » by **Richard4444** » Sun Oct 5, 2025 1:32 pm

Capn'O wrote:Easy to move the ball during training camp when everyone isn't going full speed. I do anticipate that we'll play faster this year.

It will be a challenge to play fast with a 3 big lineup: Mitch, KAT and OG.

Richard4444 · Post #357 » by **Richard4444** » Sun Oct 5, 2025 1:37 pm

thebuzzardman wrote:
That said, I don't think Dolan just rode in and blew that up. Leon and other members of the FO felt they needed to shake up the coaching. It might still not pan out, but I THINK the thought process was they paid a lot for Mikal and KAT and Thibs wasn't getting 100% out of them. I'd think the FO felt that Brunson, OG and Hart bring it no matter who is the coach.

I doubt we can get 100% of KAT playing him as PF.

rajajackal · Post #358 » by **rajajackal** » Sun Oct 5, 2025 2:13 pm

Richard4444 wrote:
thebuzzardman wrote:
That said, I don't think Dolan just rode in and blew that up. Leon and other members of the FO felt they needed to shake up the coaching. It might still not pan out, but I THINK the thought process was they paid a lot for Mikal and KAT and Thibs wasn't getting 100% out of them. I'd think the FO felt that Brunson, OG and Hart bring it no matter who is the coach.

I doubt we can get 100% of KAT playing him as PF.

i don't see og as a full time big. i see him as an elite 2 way wing with bad handles :lol:

Richard4444 · Post #359 » by **Richard4444** » Sun Oct 5, 2025 2:27 pm

rajajackal wrote:
Richard4444 wrote:
thebuzzardman wrote:
That said, I don't think Dolan just rode in and blew that up. Leon and other members of the FO felt they needed to shake up the coaching. It might still not pan out, but I THINK the thought process was they paid a lot for Mikal and KAT and Thibs wasn't getting 100% out of them. I'd think the FO felt that Brunson, OG and Hart bring it no matter who is the coach.

I doubt we can get 100% of KAT playing him as PF.

i don't see og as a full time big. i see him as an elite 2 way wing with bad handles

OG drives and ran without the ball running over players looking for space like a big.

Nazrmohamed · Post #360 » by **Nazrmohamed** » Sun Oct 5, 2025 11:23 pm

thebuzzardman wrote:The ball moved like that training camp vid early last season. First 25 games or so.

Teams always seem to adjust in January.

I'd suppose Brown was brought in for two reasons. That he can make adjustments to the adjustments in season but particularly the playoffs, better than Thibs. Might be true. Better be true. Might not be true.

I'd figure there was enough player noise from players considered important enough that minutes and/or offensive flexibility were reported.

I liked Thibs. It was a great story there being synergy between Leon, Thibs, Brunson.

That said, I don't think Dolan just rode in and blew that up. Leon and other members of the FO felt they needed to shake up the coaching. It might still not pan out, but I THINK the thought process was they paid a lot for Mikal and KAT and Thibs wasn't getting 100% out of them. I'd think the FO felt that Brunson, OG and Hart bring it no matter who is the coach.

We did look really good to start the season last year. Also remember Hart was shooting out of his mind. I actually thought he had fixed all his shooting woes. We were running tons of pick and roll with Jalen and KAT and then it all stopped. Obviously our record proves we didnt totally suck but looking back we were elite right up until January and then stayed mediocre enough to still finish with a top 3 record. I actually predict this team to start mediocre trying to figure this system out and then progressively look elite right up until the playoffs. Probably finish with a similar record.