[Special] What Would An NBA Death Penalty Look Like? A Clippers Side Story

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Re: [Special] What Would An NBA Death Penalty Look Like? A Clippers Side Story 

Post#61 » by Invictus88 » Fri Oct 3, 2025 5:57 pm

Lunartic wrote:
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Okay, what about ritualistically executing Kawhi and every member of the Clippers incl training staff and OKC fans?


What is wrong with you?


It's called humor, try not being such a sourpuss


My previous comment still stands.

I just can't make the leap to understanding how a suggestion of mass murder falls under the category of humor. But you do you. I'm sure you're fun at parties.
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Post#62 » by Monky15 » Fri Oct 3, 2025 10:33 pm

Void Kahwi's deal and rescind his bird right ala Joe Smith style should be a given.
Take all their 2nd round draft picks for the next 10 years.

2 years from now make it so teams can buy a 2nd round draft pick (end of the draft) if they don't have one that year.
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Re: [Special] What Would An NBA Death Penalty Look Like? A Clippers Side Story 

Post#63 » by Lunartic » Fri Oct 3, 2025 11:13 pm

Invictus88 wrote:
Lunartic wrote:
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What is wrong with you?


It's called humor, try not being such a sourpuss


My previous comment still stands.

I just can't make the leap to understanding how a suggestion of mass murder falls under the category of humor. But you do you. I'm sure you're fun at parties.



Huh? The guy that doesn't enjoy humor and rigidly critiques people's posts is the party guy? What party? the Autistic Dweeb Party?
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Re: [Special] What Would An NBA Death Penalty Look Like? A Clippers Side Story 

Post#64 » by floppymoose » Fri Oct 3, 2025 11:22 pm

They should be forced to play Ben Simmons 2000 minutes this season.
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Post#65 » by Ballings7 » Fri Oct 3, 2025 11:24 pm

jvsimonetti0514 wrote:Multiple year suspension of both Kawhi, Ballmer, and whomever else was aware of the scheme in Clippers organization. Life time ban for mister uncle Dennis Roberson. Should be the minimum. I would want ballmer to sell his team and kawhi’s contract to be voided but I’m not sure how realistic it was for the league to do that. The clippers should lose whatever picks they’ve got available to them for the rest of the decade and after 2030 their picks should be locked in the 20’s no matter what their record is.


Respectably, so nothing like this is going to happen, give or take.. there'll be a fine at most (if that). No draft picks will get docked, etc.

Just saying folks are going to need to be prepared to be disappointed, for those continuously investing decent thought and inquiry into this, seeking a big, layered penalty.
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Post#66 » by inonba » Fri Oct 3, 2025 11:57 pm

Ballings7 wrote:Respectably, so nothing like this is going to happen, give or take.. there'll be a fine at most (if that). No draft picks will get docked, etc.

Just saying folks are going to need to be prepared to be disappointed, for those continuously investing decent thought and inquiry into this, seeking a big, layered penalty.


Respectfully, you are under estimating Ballmer's importance to the league. If anything, the league will change the rules to accommodate Ballmer and other equally important owners. To ensure the league's continued success, the important owners should be able to take any player they want from any team. Problem solved.
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Re: [Special] What Would An NBA Death Penalty Look Like? A Clippers Side Story 

Post#67 » by jvsimonetti0514 » Sat Oct 4, 2025 12:44 am

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jvsimonetti0514 wrote:Multiple year suspension of both Kawhi, Ballmer, and whomever else was aware of the scheme in Clippers organization. Life time ban for mister uncle Dennis Roberson. Should be the minimum. I would want ballmer to sell his team and kawhi’s contract to be voided but I’m not sure how realistic it was for the league to do that. The clippers should lose whatever picks they’ve got available to them for the rest of the decade and after 2030 their picks should be locked in the 20’s no matter what their record is.


Respectably, so nothing like this is going to happen, give or take.. there'll be a fine at most (if that). No draft picks will get docked, etc.

Just saying folks are going to need to be prepared to be disappointed, for those continuously investing decent thought and inquiry into this, seeking a big, layered penalty.


Like the OP asked for this would be my death penalty punishment. Like if the NBA really brought the hammer down for this blatant cap circumvention. This would be one of the biggest violations of league rules in sports history and the punishment would have to be severe. I agree it’s probably not going to get everything but there would need to be some sort of suspensions and picks confiscated.

There’s a couple things that Zach Lowe said in his several pods covering Pablo’s reporting that makes me think there’s pretty much 0 chance of it just being fine. It’s either cap circumvention or it’s not. There’s no middle ground fine or slap on wrist punishment. It has to be joe smith level punish or the clippers get off Scot free. It’s fine if you think it’s more likely that there won’t be any sort of punishment but after the reveal of the clippers minority owners investment and ballmers donation in aspirations CEO’s charity in 2024 I don’t think there’s any way for the nba to brush this under the rug. So if Silver doesn’t come down hard it might actually break the league. On top of all the evidence, Lowe said all the basketball people are furious. It’s going to be a full blown mutiny by the 29 other front offices of Silver doesn’t handle this right. I just don’t know how he could possible get away with doing nothing.
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Post#68 » by LakersLegacy » Sat Oct 4, 2025 5:11 am

The Clippers did not even sit a game after Sterling used racist word on SURVELLIANCE
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Post#69 » by Wolves21 » Sat Oct 4, 2025 2:59 pm

I'd say banning Kawhi & Ballmer for the length of his current deal would be fair along with losing multiple draft picks.
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Post#70 » by NO-KG-AI » Sun Oct 5, 2025 2:29 am

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Ballings7 wrote:Respectably, so nothing like this is going to happen, give or take.. there'll be a fine at most (if that). No draft picks will get docked, etc.

Just saying folks are going to need to be prepared to be disappointed, for those continuously investing decent thought and inquiry into this, seeking a big, layered penalty.


Respectfully, you are under estimating Ballmer's importance to the league. If anything, the league will change the rules to accommodate Ballmer and other equally important owners. To ensure the league's continued success, the important owners should be able to take any player they want from any team. Problem solved.


If the other owners wanted to be able to just ignore the cap, why would they even have it? Lmao. The other owners are going to want some blood for this, and Silver is beholden to them, not the other way around.
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Post#71 » by inonba » Sun Oct 5, 2025 2:43 am

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Ballings7 wrote:Respectably, so nothing like this is going to happen, give or take.. there'll be a fine at most (if that). No draft picks will get docked, etc.

Just saying folks are going to need to be prepared to be disappointed, for those continuously investing decent thought and inquiry into this, seeking a big, layered penalty.


Respectfully, you are under estimating Ballmer's importance to the league. If anything, the league will change the rules to accommodate Ballmer and other equally important owners. To ensure the league's continued success, the important owners should be able to take any player they want from any team. Problem solved.


If the other owners wanted to be able to just ignore the cap, why would they even have it? Lmao. The other owners are going to want some blood for this, and Silver is beholden to them, not the other way around.


Sarcasm aside, these are the 2 extremes. Either Silver hands down punitive punishment or legalize the circumvention. For those who believe the league will look the other way, then why bother hiding the corruption? Just openly admit some franchises are more important than others and have 2 sets of rules.
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Re: [Special] What Would An NBA Death Penalty Look Like? A Clippers Side Story 

Post#72 » by xinxin » Sun Oct 5, 2025 3:03 am

If NBA wants to send a message of fairness or making sure their rules have actual teeth, the penalties should be;

1) void Kawhi contract but the amount still part of Clippers salary cap.
2) suspend Kawhi 1 yr
3) ban Uncle Dennis from any NBA activity /arena
4) suspend Ballmer for 1 yr
5) 3 1st round picks whenever available

If they can’t do this; then they better scrap the salary cap/luxury tax. It’ll just be a joke at that point


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Post#73 » by PRguy23 » Sun Oct 5, 2025 4:26 am

1 year suspension for ballmer and kawhai. Loss of bird rights, 5 1st rd picks after the already approved deals. Ballmer would be 82 by the time this shadow is gone. He would have to sell the team. Plus fines.
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Post#74 » by Senchu » Sun Oct 5, 2025 7:24 am

ImmortalD24 wrote:Solution is simple.. disqualify the team from making the playoffs regardless of record as well as well as forfeit draft picks several consecutive years.. That will honestly teach them a lesson not to mess around and force star players to venture elsewhere.

I agree with this. Hitting at their competitive advantage - competing now and allowing all that contract money stuff for players.

Kawhi should also be banned for year imo at least.
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Post#75 » by inonba » Sun Oct 5, 2025 9:26 am

I've mentioned this in another thread. "Punitive" is extremely high in this scenario. Ballmer was willing to pay $118 million and the equivalent of 5 picks + 2 swaps for a superstar player. Any penalty less than those 2 aspect would be the cost of doing business considering the Clippers got Kawhi for 6 years before getting caught. Monetary penalties would have to be in the hundreds of millions (unrealistic), draft picks loss will have to be greater than seven picks.

The only practical punishment is a lifetime ban for all parties involved.
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Post#76 » by lakerz12 » Sun Oct 5, 2025 2:30 pm

Take away all their championships!

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