Mariner wrote:Jaydubb wrote:Micah Prescott wrote:An incompletion would effect his passer rating, he has the best passer rating in the NFL. But of course stats can be misleading, be taken out of context, or be the result of another player.
Generally speaking it is extremely difficult to lead the NFL in passer rating and "suck". Or when one QB has 11 TDs (Lamar) and another has only 3 (Tyrod) it is extremely difficult for that to be a misrepresentation of who has done more for their team.
For most of us, or nearly ALL of us, stats are the only thing we can go on. None of us are watching every single game, every single Sunday. And this goes 100X for non-QBs. CBs aren't even on the screen most of the game, if a CB shuts someone down he's basically invisible to the viewer. All we can go on is metrics.
I’m not saying Lamar or anybody sucks.lol I’m just saying there’s context behind stats. Yes an incompletion affects passer rating but so do interceptions. Interceptions actually have a bigger negative effect on passer rating. If a defender drops an easy interception then the only negative value that QB gets is the incompletion. It gives a false sense of “oh that play wasn’t that bad because it’s just an incompletion”. No, the play is bad whether the defender catches it or not..lol
Looking at stats is fine but take it with a grain of salt is all I’m saying.
Dropped INts or INTs resulting in the receiver dropping the ball etc… are accounted for in some stats.
Of course you have to add context. Stats are not the be all end all but they should be weighed much heavier then the eye test.
I know you loved our old convos years ago on the eye test but this is exactly what I was talking about back then. When we didn’t have advanced data to track these things really we just went off basic stats like completions, incompletions, and interceptions.
A dropped interception back then wouldn’t affect a QBs rating much at all even though it might actually be a horrible play by that QB. It’s rare but there’s also times a defender drops an interception and a wr might catch the deflection for a TD. That QB then gets a TD on his stats and is rewarded for his bad play.
Eye test clearly showed that these weren’t good plays even if they had little to no effect on a QBs stat sheet. Now we have some data to back that up.
