Raps V. Nuggets - Preseason - Mon, Oct 6th, 2025 - 10PM EST
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Re: Raps V. Nuggets - Preseason - Mon, Oct 6th, 2025 - 10PM EST
Good news is we have forced 18 turnovers already, bad news is they're shooting 70%.
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dandaman wrote:Denver letting us hang around then turn it up for a run when we get close, there's levels to this
they always do that.
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Boogie! wrote:what do you see in his game that shows he can be more efficient off ball? His jump shot has gotten worse somehow.PushDaRock wrote:Boogie! wrote:It’s so funny how everyone thought Barnes offense would be better with a better lead option and it looks worse man. wtf I’m so frustrated watching this man
Well, he still likely will be. If he's a 52 TS% guy as a #3/4 option we are pretty screwed.
One thing I agree with is that taking him away from the ball makes him a worse player on offence. He should be scoring opportunistically only but he’s not a garbage man either. That takes away what he’s good at which is reading the floor. The fact remains that the team tends to walk away with a good shot when he’s involved in the offence (and he’s not looking for his own shot lol).
not strong, only aggresive cuz the power ain't directed/ that's why, we are subjected to the will of the oppressive
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all the starters need to be benched to let Scottie play with the bench players. he needs to play a lot better
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Denver is a legit championship contender. If we look terrible against the Pacers or any of the other mediocre teams in the East then I'll crash out on this team.
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Re: Raps V. Nuggets - Preseason - Mon, Oct 6th, 2025 - 10PM EST
Masai overpaid Quickley
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this is his 5th season if he still hasn’t figured it out now…
Honestly man, are we forgetting this is a max player? The guy we called the franchise? It s absolutely unacceptable how horrible he’s playing. In fact I’m surprised people are so nonchalant about it
mdenny wrote:In anycase....Masai is probably gonna make Fred the first active player/head coach in franchise history now that Nurse is out of the way. That's been the plan all along.
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Re: Raps V. Nuggets - Preseason - Mon, Oct 6th, 2025 - 10PM EST
Scott Barnes welcome to Milwaukee
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Okay this is not how we’re using BI come regular season I hope. He might be our best ball handler/playmaker at this point if Scottie and IQ are playing like this.
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I'm all for trading IQ. Maybe Coby White if possible.
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Mr.Raptorsingh wrote:A good example of Quickley being a crappy PG, dude swung it to Barnes for the corner 3, but the pass was not in his shooting pocket
Does Scottie have a shooting pocket
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are we not concerned about how hard It is to make a max player look good? You sign players to the max because you know what they provide and they’re supposed to make others better. The fact we’re discussing ways to make Barnes look good as the max player is a huge red flagHiJiNX wrote:Boogie! wrote:what do you see in his game that shows he can be more efficient off ball? His jump shot has gotten worse somehow.PushDaRock wrote:
Well, he still likely will be. If he's a 52 TS% guy as a #3/4 option we are pretty screwed.
One thing I agree with is that taking him away from the ball makes him a worse player on offence. He should be scoring opportunistically only but he’s not a garbage man either. That takes away what he’s good at which is reading the floor. The fact remains that the team tends to walk away with a good shot when he’s involved in the offence (and he’s not looking for his own shot lol).
mdenny wrote:In anycase....Masai is probably gonna make Fred the first active player/head coach in franchise history now that Nurse is out of the way. That's been the plan all along.
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400 million over 5 years going to barnes and quickley
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Raptors_Dynasty wrote:Mr.Raptorsingh wrote:A good example of Quickley being a crappy PG, dude swung it to Barnes for the corner 3, but the pass was not in his shooting pocket
Does Scottie have a shooting pocket
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This team is missing a true floor general since Lowry left....We havn't had a tempo setting guard in a long time and IQ is not a true PG.

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Potential wrote:Scott Barnes welcome to Milwaukee

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Re: Raps V. Nuggets - Preseason - Mon, Oct 6th, 2025 - 10PM EST
greekman wrote:400 million over 5 years going to barnes and quickley
Feels bad
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Re: Raps V. Nuggets - Preseason - Mon, Oct 6th, 2025 - 10PM EST
greekman wrote:400 million over 5 years going to barnes and quickley
You can add Ingram to that
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IQ cant do anything out there, can't beat anyone off the dribble and the odd time he gets a step on somebody he haa no clue how to get to the rim or create for someone...
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Re: Raps V. Nuggets - Preseason - Mon, Oct 6th, 2025 - 10PM EST
Gavin_TDThree wrote:HumbleRen wrote:Gavin_TDThree wrote:I'd like to see us use SB in the Jokic role. High post, run actions/movement around him. Let him playmake
He can’t. He’s a below average screener.
Jokic is one of the best of all time at it.
there's no reason scottie can't be a good screener. He's got the size for it
Screening is a skill. If it was easy, Scottie would be able to do it by now.














