Shams: Knicks the Only Team Giannis Desires to Play For Outside of Milwaukee; Both Teams Discussed Potential Trade

[RHODEY]

They can have one ..not both. Knicks dont need to gut their team....they are already contenders.

They’re gonna need to give up more than “one of OG/Bridges” to get Giannis.

It is simple math equation.

OG OR Bridges
Towns (but Bucks decide if they want him direct or 3rd team for equivalent assets)
McBride
Knicks Picks (which are lol)

FOR

Giannis
Kuzma
Filler

Nope just one starter MAX and likely not KAT. Because remember the Knicks don't need Gianiss, but Giannis only wants New York. So it comes down to the Bucks risking losing him for nothing or take what the Knicks give them.

My proposal would be something like Bridges or OG and Josh Hart and change (Kolek and or Dadiet + whatever picks we have) for him. We dont want their trash like Kuzma. If they don't like that they can settle for ZERO in return. other teams will NOT offer more than that for a 1 year rental.

[Capn'O]

And yes, the Bridges trade looms as a mistake now. The Knicks were impatient and are now in a weaker position to make a move than they otherwise would have been.

It was an overpay but I'm not convinced that we would have had a great package with the picks. Is the idea that if we attached them to Towns we'd have a deal for Giannis? Could be. The picks aren't that enticing though. It's a lot of them but until we get to maybe the 29/31 picks you're fairly confidently looking at picks in the 20s, including the Bucks pick that was included.

What we don't have is a young star type player to include. That is the type of piece that really greases these trades.

One of the challenges that led to the Mikal trade was turning the Fournier -> Bojan Bogdanovic salary slot into a longer term valuable piece. I'd love to have Giannis but I love having Towns + Bridges as well. It would be tough to have gotten another piece of that quality without giving a lot up.

[Wolveswin]

They’re gonna need to give up more than “one of OG/Bridges” to get Giannis.

It is simple math equation.

OG OR Bridges
Towns (but Bucks decide if they want him direct or 3rd team for equivalent assets)
McBride
Knicks Picks (which are lol)

FOR

Giannis
Kuzma
Filler

Nope just one starter MAX and likely not KAT. Because remember the Knicks don't need Gianiss, but Giannis only wants New York. So it comes down to the Bucks risking losing him for nothing or take what the Knicks give them.

My proposal would be something like Bridges or OG and Josh Hart and change (Kolek and or Dadiet + whatever picks we have) for him. We dont want their trash like Kuzma. If they don't like that they can settle for ZERO in return. other teams will NOT offer more than that for a 1 year rental.

I get your position - but you are wrong.

Giannis isn’t a one year rental. He has this year and next year. Plus he does not have a no trade clause. Teams will offer more that what you are claiming from Knicks for two years of Giannis - and hope he falls in love while forgetting New York.

Lakers and Warriors for example can offer better deal than your from Knicks. Would Giannis really leave one of those situations.

[Snakebites]

And yes, the Bridges trade looms as a mistake now. The Knicks were impatient and are now in a weaker position to make a move than they otherwise would have been.

It was an overpay but I'm not convinced that we would have had a great package with the picks.

You’d certainly have more to offer than you do now.

I think firsts, McBride, and one starter would probably have done it if Giannis demanded a trade.

Now it’s possible but more complicated.

[JB2]

LOL imagine having the chance to get Giannis but burning 5 of your firsts on Mikal Bridges instead

Giannis is one of the few players you actually trade 5+ firsts and a great player for. Bridges is not.

that's not how it works anymore. if giannis wants ny, he will get ny.

ultimately, it won't be fair value. figure it's a deal involving kat and parts for giannis.

Apparently it's exactly how it works

[SkyBill40]

The Knicks don't have what it's going to take in order to pull something like this off, at least not straight up. This'll definitely require some other teams to get involved.

[RHODEY]

It is simple math equation.

OG OR Bridges
Towns (but Bucks decide if they want him direct or 3rd team for equivalent assets)
McBride
Knicks Picks (which are lol)

FOR

Giannis
Kuzma
Filler

Nope just one starter MAX and likely not KAT. Because remember the Knicks don't need Gianiss, but Giannis only wants New York. So it comes down to the Bucks risking losing him for nothing or take what the Knicks give them.

My proposal would be something like Bridges or OG and Josh Hart and change (Kolek and or Dadiet + whatever picks we have) for him. We dont want their trash like Kuzma. If they don't like that they can settle for ZERO in return. other teams will NOT offer more than that for a 1 year rental.

I get your position - but you are wrong.

Giannis isn’t a one year rental. He has this year and next year. Plus he does not have a no trade clause. Teams will offer more that what you are claiming from Knicks for two years of Giannis - and hope he falls in love while forgetting New York.

Lakers and Warriors for example can offer better deal than your from Knicks. Would Giannis really leave one of those situations.

No contender will do offer more....the teams. that offer more certainly won't be contenders.

[Wolveswin]

Nope just one starter MAX and likely not KAT. Because remember the Knicks don't need Gianiss, but Giannis only wants New York. So it comes down to the Bucks risking losing him for nothing or take what the Knicks give them.

My proposal would be something like Bridges or OG and Josh Hart and change (Kolek and or Dadiet + whatever picks we have) for him. We dont want their trash like Kuzma. If they don't like that they can settle for ZERO in return. other teams will NOT offer more than that for a 1 year rental.

I get your position - but you are wrong.

Giannis isn’t a one year rental. He has this year and next year. Plus he does not have a no trade clause. Teams will offer more that what you are claiming from Knicks for two years of Giannis - and hope he falls in love while forgetting New York.

Lakers and Warriors for example can offer better deal than your from Knicks. Would Giannis really leave one of those situations.

No contender will do offer more....the teams. that offer more certainly won't be contenders.

You think a contender won’t offer more than OG/Hart??? I mean Knicks don’t even have 1sts to trade. Contenders can top that easy.

Clippers have 2x 1sts (plus swaps) they can trade (very sexy being they are from old team and from when Giannis would threat to be gone). Their 1st round pick from this year. And bunch of vets (Collins, Brogdon, DJJ). That offer is way better than your Knicks offer.

Zubac
Giannis
Kawhi
Beal
Harden

[Wooderson]

They’re gonna need to give up more than “one of OG/Bridges” to get Giannis.

It is simple math equation.

OG OR Bridges
Towns (but Bucks decide if they want him direct or 3rd team for equivalent assets)
McBride
Knicks Picks (which are lol)

FOR

Giannis
Kuzma
Filler

Nope just one starter MAX and likely not KAT. Because remember the Knicks don't need Gianiss, but Giannis only wants New York. So it comes down to the Bucks risking losing him for nothing or take what the Knicks give them.

My proposal would be something like Bridges or OG and Josh Hart and change (Kolek and or Dadiet + whatever picks we have) for him. We dont want their trash like Kuzma. If they don't like that they can settle for ZERO in return. other teams will NOT offer more than that for a 1 year rental.

Knicks have essentially no tradeable picks. 2030 FRP swap, but Portland already owns Bucks swap rights. And 2032 swap. Thats it. Barely any value.

Bucks should (and likely would) just decline and ride it out another year with Giannis and let him walk for nothing if thats the best thats on the table. Its a horrible offer.

[jscott]

Nope just one starter MAX and likely not KAT. Because remember the Knicks don't need Gianiss, but Giannis only wants New York. So it comes down to the Bucks risking losing him for nothing or take what the Knicks give them.

My proposal would be something like Bridges or OG and Josh Hart and change (Kolek and or Dadiet + whatever picks we have) for him. We dont want their trash like Kuzma. If they don't like that they can settle for ZERO in return. other teams will NOT offer more than that for a 1 year rental.

I get your position - but you are wrong.

Giannis isn’t a one year rental. He has this year and next year. Plus he does not have a no trade clause. Teams will offer more that what you are claiming from Knicks for two years of Giannis - and hope he falls in love while forgetting New York.

Lakers and Warriors for example can offer better deal than your from Knicks. Would Giannis really leave one of those situations.

No contender will do offer more....the teams. that offer more certainly won't be contenders.

Ever heard of OKC?

[jscott]

They’re gonna need to give up more than “one of OG/Bridges” to get Giannis.

It is simple math equation.

OG OR Bridges
Towns (but Bucks decide if they want him direct or 3rd team for equivalent assets)
McBride
Knicks Picks (which are lol)

FOR

Giannis
Kuzma
Filler

Nope just one starter MAX and likely not KAT. Because remember the Knicks don't need Gianiss, but Giannis only wants New York. So it comes down to the Bucks risking losing him for nothing or take what the Knicks give them.

My proposal would be something like Bridges or OG and Josh Hart and change (Kolek and or Dadiet + whatever picks we have) for him. We dont want their trash like Kuzma. If they don't like that they can settle for ZERO in return. other teams will NOT offer more than that for a 1 year rental.

I think you’re over reacting to a Shams article that basically says/confirms nothing.

[bronxknicksfan1]

I get your position - but you are wrong.

Giannis isn’t a one year rental. He has this year and next year. Plus he does not have a no trade clause. Teams will offer more that what you are claiming from Knicks for two years of Giannis - and hope he falls in love while forgetting New York.

Lakers and Warriors for example can offer better deal than your from Knicks. Would Giannis really leave one of those situations.

No contender will do offer more....the teams. that offer more certainly won't be contenders.

You think a contender won’t offer more than OG/Hart??? I mean Knicks don’t even have 1sts to trade. Contenders can top that easy.

Clippers have 2x 1sts (plus swaps) they can trade (very sexy being they are from old team and from when Giannis would threat to be gone). Their 1st round pick from this year. And bunch of vets (Collins, Brogdon, DJJ). That offer is way better than your Knicks offer.

Zubac
Giannis
Kawhi
Beal
Harden

Not that I think the offer that was presented by the Knicks is a good one, but that Clippers offer is terrible. OG or Bridges is far more valuable than any of those players you mentioned. Also, Brogdon isn’t on the Clippers.

[bronxknicksfan1]

Shams is a confirmed hack so take his speculative nonsense with a grain of salt. NYC I am sure is an attraction but the Knicks have no way of acquiring Giannis and are fringe contenders at best, the Bucks aren’t giving Giannis away so if that’s the only other team he has an interest in then it’s a good sign because they’re not signing him as a FA or have the assets for a trade.

People thinking Giannis was going to request a trade to OKC, Cleveland, or San Antonio were off their rockers. Unless you think Giannis is signing with Panathinaikos I don’t think you can read much into his family resettling in Athens.

Knicks aren’t just a fringe contender. Looking at a top 3-4 team in the league. That’s a legit contender with legit pieces that have value in any trade. Don’t think it’ll happen because the FO doesn’t want to gut the roster, but if they wanted to…it would’ve happened already.

[Wolveswin]

No contender will do offer more....the teams. that offer more certainly won't be contenders.

You think a contender won’t offer more than OG/Hart??? I mean Knicks don’t even have 1sts to trade. Contenders can top that easy.

Clippers have 2x 1sts (plus swaps) they can trade (very sexy being they are from old team and from when Giannis would threat to be gone). Their 1st round pick from this year. And bunch of vets (Collins, Brogdon, DJJ). That offer is way better than your Knicks offer.

Zubac
Giannis
Kawhi
Beal
Harden

Not that I think the offer that was presented by the Knicks is a good one, but that Clippers offer is terrible. OG or Bridges is far more valuable than any of those players you mentioned. Also, Brogdon isn’t on the Clippers.

Bogdan - come on. Don’t be spelling bee nutcase.

OG or Bridges are better players but don’t make up for the 1sts Clippers actually have.

[AussieBuck]

Shams has as many Giannis sources today as he had yesterday and last week and last year and the year before that. It's still none and there's still an army of people falling for this **** each time.

[knicksfan974]

This is what I told ya'll all along! It will happen!

[knicksfan974]

No real news here but it's nice to know that the league's best now see the Knicks as a viable destination.

A top3 player in the world reportedly wants the Knicks. A super team about form in MSG, rest of the league better prepare for that.

[knicksfan974]

Knicks have no picks

They have

Ohhhh no they don’t, their all picks landed in Brooklyn for the legend Mikal Bridges

Wait until summer when the Knicks win the championship and you see Mikal holding the trophy. All will be worth it.

[knicksfan974]

For the sake of genuine discussion, could the Knicks afford to sign Giannis to an extension if he was traded to them without sacrificing at least 2 of Bridges/OG and KAT who are on big money under the current cap/luxury tax strings?

On the other hand I feel like the Knicks may disappoint/undeachieve this season under Mike Brown and Giannis may look elsewhere to try ring chase (possibly Houston) ?

Feel genuinely bad for Bucks fans though, you don't want to read crap like this with the regular season a couple of weeks away. Makes me wonder why Shams leaked this now ? Does he have hidden agenda aka secret Knicks fan ??

Disappoint? How so? Offense will be improved under Brown, and they addressed their bench depth. Even last years team ended the Celtics , so imagine what they'd do now in a weaker East.

Yeah, why would they disappoint? The Knicks are most likely #1 seed in the East if something. The team is so stacked only goal this year is championship.

[knicksfan974]

Giannis for OG/Bridges, who are then spun off by Milwaukee to contenders for expiring salary/picks, seems like a pretty good possibility next summer if the Knicks don't make the Finals.

They can have one ..not both. Knicks dont need to gut their team....they are already contenders.

Contenders ?

Let me remind you, The Nix haven’t been in the finals for more than a quarter of a CENTURY!!! and even that it’s huge asterisk as 1999 was a lockout heavily shortened season

Knicks have been a laughing stock for the half of a CENTURY, that’s 50 long years

saying this if Giannis have half a brain and he’s tired of Milwaukee, he should look at the Lakers ,next season Celtics possibly , I would add Spurs and Nuggets although very unlikely to happen , but never ever the Knicks , they going nowhere

Vegas thinks otherwise, and has the Knicks as one of the biggest favorites. Nets on the other hand....