Warriors exploring S&T for Kuminga

[whatisacenter]

What do you mean by this? If you attach picks to Kuminga you don't think he can bring back someone better?

I don't think there are many players at his salary that will be as good as him.

Much better fit that significantly contributes to team's wins will automatically become much better player for the team. Unless JK becomes that player himself. And even if he did but the relationship is totally out the window, and he wants out no matter what, what will they do. Tie him up to the chair?
That is why the dubs did what they did, precisely protecting themselves against such scenario. He balls out and wants to stay, fine. The team will pick up the option for next year and go from there. He remains as non-fit or balls out and insist on leaving no matter what, he now has much more value to bring the very adequate replacement.

Like who?

Most players at his salary are better than him, whether they are available or not and the price is a different story.

Certainly Murphy, brooks and Wiggins are way better basketball players and obviously better fits skill wise though chemistry could be an issue with brooks.

Take a look at the players ranked 70-90 in contract value (kuminga’s range) I’d say I would take him over 5 out of 20 but really age has a lot to do with it (smart, Vuc etc)

I'm not sure the Warriors can currently take back more money than they are sending out for a player like Murphy but I guess they can still waive TJD?

I would take JK over most of the players in that range but I'm a fan of his unlike most here.

[michaelm]

I don't think there are many players at his salary that will be as good as him.



Like who?

Most players at his salary are better than him, whether they are available or not and the price is a different story.

Certainly Murphy, brooks and Wiggins are way better basketball players and obviously better fits skill wise though chemistry could be an issue with brooks.

Take a look at the players ranked 70-90 in contract value (kuminga’s range) I’d say I would take him over 5 out of 20 but really age has a lot to do with it (smart, Vuc etc)

I'm not sure the Warriors can currently take back more money than they are sending out for a player like Murphy but I guess they can still waive TJD?

I would take JK over most of the players in that range but I'm a fan of his unlike most here.

I am coming around on your viewpoint. I wasn’t following this closely and thought he and his agent were over valuing him in terms of what he is worth to the current Warriors, but if he wants to go to a better situation for him that is quite understandable. He wasn’t drafted to meet the current needs of this team/to be a support player in the dying days of a dynastic team.

[DB23]

Most players at his salary are better than him, whether they are available or not and the price is a different story.

Certainly Murphy, brooks and Wiggins are way better basketball players and obviously better fits skill wise though chemistry could be an issue with brooks.

Take a look at the players ranked 70-90 in contract value (kuminga’s range) I’d say I would take him over 5 out of 20 but really age has a lot to do with it (smart, Vuc etc)

I'm not sure the Warriors can currently take back more money than they are sending out for a player like Murphy but I guess they can still waive TJD?

I would take JK over most of the players in that range but I'm a fan of his unlike most here.

I am coming around on your viewpoint. I wasn’t following this closely and thought he and his agent were over valuing him in terms of what he is worth to the current Warriors, but if he wants to go to a better situation for him that is quite understandable. He wasn’t drafted to meet the current needs of this team/to be a support player in the dying days of a dynastic team.

I don’t think you could say Kerr or kuminga are wrong for what they want.

But my point will always be that kuminga has had ample opportunity to do + stuff on the floor and he’s failed. If he’s not shooting well which is more often not the case then he’s a negative.

But if he can minimum play good defense, grab 5-7 boards and 3-5 assists per game then great, he would have earned more playing time and a better contract.

That doesn’t seem like a high bar for the contract he is on.

[DB23]

I don't think there are many players at his salary that will be as good as him.



Like who?

Most players at his salary are better than him, whether they are available or not and the price is a different story.

Certainly Murphy, brooks and Wiggins are way better basketball players and obviously better fits skill wise though chemistry could be an issue with brooks.

Take a look at the players ranked 70-90 in contract value (kuminga’s range) I’d say I would take him over 5 out of 20 but really age has a lot to do with it (smart, Vuc etc)

I'm not sure the Warriors can currently take back more money than they are sending out for a player like Murphy but I guess they can still waive TJD?

I would take JK over most of the players in that range but I'm a fan of his unlike most here.

You’re entitled to your opinion.

Seems to me based more on potential which is fair enough rather than what we have consistently seen on the court.

[EvanZ]

JK will be better than any player they can trade him for unless a superstar asks out and he is part of the package that goes out for them.

What do you mean by this? If you attach picks to Kuminga you don't think he can bring back someone better?

I don't think there are many players at his salary that will be as good as him.

Which of these are not as good as JK?

Cam Johnson
Mikal Bridges
De'Andre Hunter
PJ Washington
Aaron Gordon
Dillon Brooks
Alex Caruso
Jarrett Allen
Norm Powell
Lu Dort
NAW
Nic Claxton
Brandon Miller
Lonzo Ball
Cooper Flagg
Daniel Gafford
Jabari Smith
Andrew Nembhard
Ivica Zubac
Austin Reaves
Jarred Vanderbilt
KCP
DDV
Herb Jones
Josh Hart
WCJ
Deni Avdija
Malik Monk
Harrison Barnes
Jakob Poeltl
Corey Kispert

Which of those is JK better than?

[Twinkie defense]

JK will be better than any player they can trade him for unless a superstar asks out and he is part of the package that goes out for them.

What do you mean by this? If you attach picks to Kuminga you don't think he can bring back someone better?

I don't think there are many players at his salary that will be as good as him.

Much better fit that significantly contributes to team's wins will automatically become much better player for the team. Unless JK becomes that player himself. And even if he did but the relationship is totally out the window, and he wants out no matter what, what will they do. Tie him up to the chair?
That is why the dubs did what they did, precisely protecting themselves against such scenario. He balls out and wants to stay, fine. The team will pick up the option for next year and go from there. He remains as non-fit or balls out and insist on leaving no matter what, he now has much more value to bring the very adequate replacement.

Like who?

Here are some players who would be better on the Warriors than JK and who loosely fit his salary slot:

Derrick White
Josh Hart
Naz Reid
Jaden McDaniels
Andrew Wiggins

And then of course you can do multi-player deals.

When you say "JK will be better than any player they can trade him for" I'm curious if you mean that JK is better than these guys or that their teams would not accept JK in trade for them.

[whatisacenter]

What do you mean by this? If you attach picks to Kuminga you don't think he can bring back someone better?

I don't think there are many players at his salary that will be as good as him.

Which of these are not as good as JK?

Cam Johnson
Mikal Bridges
De'Andre Hunter
PJ Washington
Aaron Gordon
Dillon Brooks
Alex Caruso
Jarrett Allen
Norm Powell
Lu Dort
NAW
Nic Claxton
Brandon Miller
Lonzo Ball
Cooper Flagg
Daniel Gafford
Jabari Smith
Andrew Nembhard
Ivica Zubac
Austin Reaves
Jarred Vanderbilt
KCP
DDV
Herb Jones
Josh Hart
WCJ
Deni Avdija
Malik Monk
Harrison Barnes
Jakob Poeltl
Corey Kispert

Which of those is JK better than?

Weird list....not sure how half of these players could or would be traded for JK given their salaries and CBA.

Cam Johnson - good player on a good contract who just landed on a new team and is not getting moved
Mikal Bridges - good player on the final year of his current contract which jumps to $33.4M and is not getting moved
De'Andre Hunter - often injured and I would keep JK over him
PJ Washington - good player making $14M
Aaron Gordon - Love Gordon and have always wondered how Steph would have looked with him in place of Draymond. New contract next season $32M
Dillon Brooks - good player on a good contract who would probably fit better than JK.
Alex Caruso - good player on a great contract who is not getting moved
Jarrett Allen - good player only making $20M
Norm Powell - expiring $20.4M who would probably fit better than JK
Lu Dort - good player on a great contract not getting moved
NAW - salaries don't work
Nic Claxton - Makes too much $ and I would rather have JK
Brandon Miller - rookie contract
Lonzo Ball - always injured only makes $10M
Cooper Flagg - LOL! What are we doing here????
Daniel Gafford - good player only making $14.3M
Jabari Smith - poison pill
Andrew Nembhard - good player on a great contract and is not getting moved
Ivica Zubac - good player on a good contract only making $18M
Austin Reaves - good player on a good contract only making $14M
Jarred Vanderbilt - often injured and doesn't make enough $
KCP - declining player on a decent contract
DDV - only making $12M
Herb Jones - good player only making $14M
Josh Hart - good player only making $19.4
WCJ - meh, I would rather have JK
Deni Avdija - good player on a great contract only making $14.3
Malik Monk - meh, I would rather have JK
Harrison Barnes - meh, I would rather have JK
Jakob Poeltl - meh, I would rather have JK
Corey Kispert - meh, doesn't make enough $ and I would rather have JK

[whatisacenter]

What do you mean by this? If you attach picks to Kuminga you don't think he can bring back someone better?

I don't think there are many players at his salary that will be as good as him.

Much better fit that significantly contributes to team's wins will automatically become much better player for the team. Unless JK becomes that player himself. And even if he did but the relationship is totally out the window, and he wants out no matter what, what will they do. Tie him up to the chair?
That is why the dubs did what they did, precisely protecting themselves against such scenario. He balls out and wants to stay, fine. The team will pick up the option for next year and go from there. He remains as non-fit or balls out and insist on leaving no matter what, he now has much more value to bring the very adequate replacement.

Like who?

Here are some players who would be better on the Warriors than JK and who loosely fit his salary slot:

Derrick White
Josh Hart
Naz Reid
Jaden McDaniels
Andrew Wiggins

And then of course you can do multi-player deals.

When you say "JK will be better than any player they can trade him for" I'm curious if you mean that JK is better than these guys or that their teams would not accept JK in trade for them.

Derrick White - Love him for the Warriors but makes too much $
Josh Hart - good player only making $19.4
Naz Reid - good player, not sure how he would fit and his contract runs through 2030....pass
Jaden McDaniels - good player on a good contract that runs through 2029....Warriors probably pass
Andrew Wiggins - 2022 Wiggins sure but he makes too much $

And yes, there are potential players one can name but are they on the trade block and do the salaries work? CBA has to be considered for both teams involved.

[EvanZ]

I don't think there are many players at his salary that will be as good as him.

Which of these are not as good as JK?

Cam Johnson
Mikal Bridges
De'Andre Hunter
PJ Washington
Aaron Gordon
Dillon Brooks
Alex Caruso
Jarrett Allen
Norm Powell
Lu Dort
NAW
Nic Claxton
Brandon Miller
Lonzo Ball
Cooper Flagg
Daniel Gafford
Jabari Smith
Andrew Nembhard
Ivica Zubac
Austin Reaves
Jarred Vanderbilt
KCP
DDV
Herb Jones
Josh Hart
WCJ
Deni Avdija
Malik Monk
Harrison Barnes
Jakob Poeltl
Corey Kispert

Which of those is JK better than?

Weird list....not sure how half of these players could or would be traded for JK given their salaries and CBA.

Cam Johnson - good player on a good contract who just landed on a new team and is not getting moved
Mikal Bridges - good player on the final year of his current contract which jumps to $33.4M and is not getting moved
De'Andre Hunter - often injured and I would keep JK over him
PJ Washington - good player making $14M
Aaron Gordon - Love Gordon and have always wondered how Steph would have looked with him in place of Draymond. New contract next season $32M
Dillon Brooks - good player on a good contract who would probably fit better than JK.
Alex Caruso - good player on a great contract who is not getting moved
Jarrett Allen - good player only making $20M
Norm Powell - expiring $20.4M who would probably fit better than JK
Lu Dort - good player on a great contract not getting moved
NAW - salaries don't work
Nic Claxton - Makes too much $ and I would rather have JK
Brandon Miller - rookie contract
Lonzo Ball - always injured only makes $10M
Cooper Flagg - LOL! What are we doing here????
Daniel Gafford - good player only making $14.3M
Jabari Smith - poison pill
Andrew Nembhard - good player on a great contract and is not getting moved
Ivica Zubac - good player on a good contract only making $18M
Austin Reaves - good player on a good contract only making $14M
Jarred Vanderbilt - often injured and doesn't make enough $
KCP - declining player on a decent contract
DDV - only making $12M
Herb Jones - good player only making $14M
Josh Hart - good player only making $19.4
WCJ - meh, I would rather have JK
Deni Avdija - good player on a great contract only making $14.3
Malik Monk - meh, I would rather have JK
Harrison Barnes - meh, I would rather have JK
Jakob Poeltl - meh, I would rather have JK
Corey Kispert - meh, doesn't make enough $ and I would rather have JK

Literally every player I mentioned who makes as much or less than JK is better than him. Only his agent and his mom and you (who is probably also his agent hi A-Aron) would think otherwise at this point in his career.

[Ilovethebay]

Which of these are not as good as JK?

Cam Johnson
Mikal Bridges
De'Andre Hunter
PJ Washington
Aaron Gordon
Dillon Brooks
Alex Caruso
Jarrett Allen
Norm Powell
Lu Dort
NAW
Nic Claxton
Brandon Miller
Lonzo Ball
Cooper Flagg
Daniel Gafford
Jabari Smith
Andrew Nembhard
Ivica Zubac
Austin Reaves
Jarred Vanderbilt
KCP
DDV
Herb Jones
Josh Hart
WCJ
Deni Avdija
Malik Monk
Harrison Barnes
Jakob Poeltl
Corey Kispert

Which of those is JK better than?

Weird list....not sure how half of these players could or would be traded for JK given their salaries and CBA.

Cam Johnson - good player on a good contract who just landed on a new team and is not getting moved
Mikal Bridges - good player on the final year of his current contract which jumps to $33.4M and is not getting moved
De'Andre Hunter - often injured and I would keep JK over him
PJ Washington - good player making $14M
Aaron Gordon - Love Gordon and have always wondered how Steph would have looked with him in place of Draymond. New contract next season $32M
Dillon Brooks - good player on a good contract who would probably fit better than JK.
Alex Caruso - good player on a great contract who is not getting moved
Jarrett Allen - good player only making $20M
Norm Powell - expiring $20.4M who would probably fit better than JK
Lu Dort - good player on a great contract not getting moved
NAW - salaries don't work
Nic Claxton - Makes too much $ and I would rather have JK
Brandon Miller - rookie contract
Lonzo Ball - always injured only makes $10M
Cooper Flagg - LOL! What are we doing here????
Daniel Gafford - good player only making $14.3M
Jabari Smith - poison pill
Andrew Nembhard - good player on a great contract and is not getting moved
Ivica Zubac - good player on a good contract only making $18M
Austin Reaves - good player on a good contract only making $14M
Jarred Vanderbilt - often injured and doesn't make enough $
KCP - declining player on a decent contract
DDV - only making $12M
Herb Jones - good player only making $14M
Josh Hart - good player only making $19.4
WCJ - meh, I would rather have JK
Deni Avdija - good player on a great contract only making $14.3
Malik Monk - meh, I would rather have JK
Harrison Barnes - meh, I would rather have JK
Jakob Poeltl - meh, I would rather have JK
Corey Kispert - meh, doesn't make enough $ and I would rather have JK

Literally every player I mentioned who makes as much or less than JK is better than him. Only his agent and his mom and you (who is probably also his agent hi A-Aron) would think otherwise at this point in his career.

Congrats. You clearly have the lowest opinion of JK than anyone here (and that’s really saying something). And Cooper Flag ? Really ? I can’t wait to see the backtracking as the season progresses.

[Onus]

Weird list....not sure how half of these players could or would be traded for JK given their salaries and CBA.

Cam Johnson - good player on a good contract who just landed on a new team and is not getting moved
Mikal Bridges - good player on the final year of his current contract which jumps to $33.4M and is not getting moved
De'Andre Hunter - often injured and I would keep JK over him
PJ Washington - good player making $14M
Aaron Gordon - Love Gordon and have always wondered how Steph would have looked with him in place of Draymond. New contract next season $32M
Dillon Brooks - good player on a good contract who would probably fit better than JK.
Alex Caruso - good player on a great contract who is not getting moved
Jarrett Allen - good player only making $20M
Norm Powell - expiring $20.4M who would probably fit better than JK
Lu Dort - good player on a great contract not getting moved
NAW - salaries don't work
Nic Claxton - Makes too much $ and I would rather have JK
Brandon Miller - rookie contract
Lonzo Ball - always injured only makes $10M
Cooper Flagg - LOL! What are we doing here????
Daniel Gafford - good player only making $14.3M
Jabari Smith - poison pill
Andrew Nembhard - good player on a great contract and is not getting moved
Ivica Zubac - good player on a good contract only making $18M
Austin Reaves - good player on a good contract only making $14M
Jarred Vanderbilt - often injured and doesn't make enough $
KCP - declining player on a decent contract
DDV - only making $12M
Herb Jones - good player only making $14M
Josh Hart - good player only making $19.4
WCJ - meh, I would rather have JK
Deni Avdija - good player on a great contract only making $14.3
Malik Monk - meh, I would rather have JK
Harrison Barnes - meh, I would rather have JK
Jakob Poeltl - meh, I would rather have JK
Corey Kispert - meh, doesn't make enough $ and I would rather have JK

Literally every player I mentioned who makes as much or less than JK is better than him. Only his agent and his mom and you (who is probably also his agent hi A-Aron) would think otherwise at this point in his career.

Congrats. You clearly have the lowest opinion of JK than anyone here (and that’s really saying something). And Cooper Flag ? Really ? I can’t wait to see the backtracking as the season progresses.

If we called Dallas to swap jk for Flagg they would commit you to an insane asylum.

[whatisacenter]

Literally every player I mentioned who makes as much or less than JK is better than him. Only his agent and his mom and you (who is probably also his agent hi A-Aron) would think otherwise at this point in his career.

Congrats. You clearly have the lowest opinion of JK than anyone here (and that’s really saying something). And Cooper Flag ? Really ? I can’t wait to see the backtracking as the season progresses.

If we called Dallas to swap jk for Flagg they would commit you to an insane asylum.

I'm pretty sure the Cooper Flagg comment and the backtracking were not related to one another.....it was Evanz naming Cooper in the first place and how negative his view of JK is.

[watch1958]

Which of these are not as good as JK?

Cam Johnson
Mikal Bridges
De'Andre Hunter
PJ Washington
Aaron Gordon
Dillon Brooks
Alex Caruso
Jarrett Allen
Norm Powell
Lu Dort
NAW
Nic Claxton
Brandon Miller
Lonzo Ball
Cooper Flagg
Daniel Gafford
Jabari Smith
Andrew Nembhard
Ivica Zubac
Austin Reaves
Jarred Vanderbilt
KCP
DDV
Herb Jones
Josh Hart
WCJ
Deni Avdija
Malik Monk
Harrison Barnes
Jakob Poeltl
Corey Kispert

Which of those is JK better than?

Weird list....not sure how half of these players could or would be traded for JK given their salaries and CBA.

Cam Johnson - good player on a good contract who just landed on a new team and is not getting moved
Mikal Bridges - good player on the final year of his current contract which jumps to $33.4M and is not getting moved
De'Andre Hunter - often injured and I would keep JK over him
PJ Washington - good player making $14M
Aaron Gordon - Love Gordon and have always wondered how Steph would have looked with him in place of Draymond. New contract next season $32M
Dillon Brooks - good player on a good contract who would probably fit better than JK.
Alex Caruso - good player on a great contract who is not getting moved
Jarrett Allen - good player only making $20M
Norm Powell - expiring $20.4M who would probably fit better than JK
Lu Dort - good player on a great contract not getting moved
NAW - salaries don't work
Nic Claxton - Makes too much $ and I would rather have JK
Brandon Miller - rookie contract
Lonzo Ball - always injured only makes $10M
Cooper Flagg - LOL! What are we doing here????
Daniel Gafford - good player only making $14.3M
Jabari Smith - poison pill
Andrew Nembhard - good player on a great contract and is not getting moved
Ivica Zubac - good player on a good contract only making $18M
Austin Reaves - good player on a good contract only making $14M
Jarred Vanderbilt - often injured and doesn't make enough $
KCP - declining player on a decent contract
DDV - only making $12M
Herb Jones - good player only making $14M
Josh Hart - good player only making $19.4
WCJ - meh, I would rather have JK
Deni Avdija - good player on a great contract only making $14.3
Malik Monk - meh, I would rather have JK
Harrison Barnes - meh, I would rather have JK
Jakob Poeltl - meh, I would rather have JK
Corey Kispert - meh, doesn't make enough $ and I would rather have JK

Literally every player I mentioned who makes as much or less than JK is better than him. Only his agent and his mom and you (who is probably also his agent hi A-Aron) would think otherwise at this point in his career.

I’d overpay for Deni.

Seems like what Podz would be with about 4 inches. That would really unlock different combinations.

[whatisacenter]

Weird list....not sure how half of these players could or would be traded for JK given their salaries and CBA.

Cam Johnson - good player on a good contract who just landed on a new team and is not getting moved
Mikal Bridges - good player on the final year of his current contract which jumps to $33.4M and is not getting moved
De'Andre Hunter - often injured and I would keep JK over him
PJ Washington - good player making $14M
Aaron Gordon - Love Gordon and have always wondered how Steph would have looked with him in place of Draymond. New contract next season $32M
Dillon Brooks - good player on a good contract who would probably fit better than JK.
Alex Caruso - good player on a great contract who is not getting moved
Jarrett Allen - good player only making $20M
Norm Powell - expiring $20.4M who would probably fit better than JK
Lu Dort - good player on a great contract not getting moved
NAW - salaries don't work
Nic Claxton - Makes too much $ and I would rather have JK
Brandon Miller - rookie contract
Lonzo Ball - always injured only makes $10M
Cooper Flagg - LOL! What are we doing here????
Daniel Gafford - good player only making $14.3M
Jabari Smith - poison pill
Andrew Nembhard - good player on a great contract and is not getting moved
Ivica Zubac - good player on a good contract only making $18M
Austin Reaves - good player on a good contract only making $14M
Jarred Vanderbilt - often injured and doesn't make enough $
KCP - declining player on a decent contract
DDV - only making $12M
Herb Jones - good player only making $14M
Josh Hart - good player only making $19.4
WCJ - meh, I would rather have JK
Deni Avdija - good player on a great contract only making $14.3
Malik Monk - meh, I would rather have JK
Harrison Barnes - meh, I would rather have JK
Jakob Poeltl - meh, I would rather have JK
Corey Kispert - meh, doesn't make enough $ and I would rather have JK

Literally every player I mentioned who makes as much or less than JK is better than him. Only his agent and his mom and you (who is probably also his agent hi A-Aron) would think otherwise at this point in his career.

I’d overpay for Deni.

Seems like what Podz would be with about 4 inches. That would really unlock different combinations.

I think it would be hard to get Deni from the Blazers...he is on a declining contract.

What would your package be?

[watch1958]

Literally every player I mentioned who makes as much or less than JK is better than him. Only his agent and his mom and you (who is probably also his agent hi A-Aron) would think otherwise at this point in his career.

I’d overpay for Deni.

Seems like what Podz would be with about 4 inches. That would really unlock different combinations.

I think it would be hard to get Deni from the Blazers...he is on a declining contract.

What would your package be?

Personally I’d do JK and Podz and up to 2 picks for Deni and Scoot.

[watch1958]

Of course, if I could do Podz & Buddy and picks for Deni now I would.

[ChuckDurn]

I’d overpay for Deni.

Seems like what Podz would be with about 4 inches. That would really unlock different combinations.

I think it would be hard to get Deni from the Blazers...he is on a declining contract.

What would your package be?

Personally I’d do JK and Podz and up to 2 picks for Deni and Scoot.

Pretty sure it would take more to get both Deni and Scoot…..

But I would definitely do Kuminga + Podziemski + an unprotected #1 for Deni + Thybulle. The salaries work.

Deni’s outstanding, great versatility offensively and defensively. And just an incredible contract value.

Thybulle’s mainly there as salary filler, but could be helpful. He’s redundant with Payton, assuming he’s healthy, but would allow either of them to potentially be traded for a different piece.

[EvanZ]

Congrats. You clearly have the lowest opinion of JK than anyone here (and that’s really saying something). And Cooper Flag ? Really ? I can’t wait to see the backtracking as the season progresses.

If we called Dallas to swap jk for Flagg they would commit you to an insane asylum.

I'm pretty sure the Cooper Flagg comment and the backtracking were not related to one another.....it was Evanz naming Cooper in the first place and how negative his view of JK is.

YOU LITERALLY SAID NOBODY MAKING KUMINGA'S SALARY IS AS GOOD AS HE IS.

That is what you said. I gave a list of several dozen players making as much or less than Kuminga who are vastly superior to him including Cooper Flagg. It is your Kuminga glazing mentality that is on display here. There are dozens if not hundreds of NBA players better than Kuminga and much better fits for the Warriors actually trying to win. That's just a fact you seem to be unwilling or unable to accept.

[Onus]

I think it would be hard to get Deni from the Blazers...he is on a declining contract.

What would your package be?

Personally I’d do JK and Podz and up to 2 picks for Deni and Scoot.

Pretty sure it would take more to get both Deni and Scoot…..

But I would definitely do Kuminga + Podziemski + an unprotected #1 for Deni + Thybulle. The salaries work.

Deni’s outstanding, great versatility offensively and defensively. And just an incredible contract value.

Thybulle’s mainly there as salary filler, but could be helpful. He’s redundant with Payton, assuming he’s healthy, but would allow either of them to potentially be traded for a different piece.

Blazers would refuse all of these offers. Blazers fans literally want to build around Deni as if he's a franchise guy.