Giannis Thread - 13th Season with the Bucks

[MartyConlonOnTheRun]

Giannis has been one of the most low-key super stars. He's never been in trouble, a good family man, and has been loyal. All this despite having zero connections to this current team, front office, etc. if he's exhausting, I don't know what super star isn't.

[soxperry]

Stephen A says, "Im moving everyone but Brunson for Giannis."

Hey guess what, Stephen, and league fans in general... if you dont have great draft picks, you are giving up your best player for Giannis. Plain and simple. We're going to be taking other players too. You dont like that? No trade then. Good luck.

[Chad34]

Does Giannis feel betrayed by the Bucks somehow, did they start trade talks on their own?

[Ron Swanson]

Horst better have his best Kuzma plus Bobby and multiple swaps/firsts trade package ready to pull the trigger on at the trade deadline, because outside of this team miraculously starting 30-13 or something, can’t see any other way you’re gonna convince him we have any sort of realistic shot at winning a championship this season.

[Dick Tate]

GM's receive a plethora of calls from other GM's. Virtually every player is discussed at some point. Kicking the tires. The Knicks aren't the first and won't be the last. And Horst "taking their call" is what a GM should do.

Can’t label a “multi-week” “exclusive negotiating window” as just “taking their call.”

[Matches Malone]

Giannis has been one of the most low-key super stars. He's never been in trouble, a good family man, and has been loyal. All this despite having zero connections to this current team, front office, etc. if he's exhausting, I don't know what super star isn't.

The situation is exhausting. Most superstars don't have the same thing going on for 7+ years of rumors. I understand you want to stick up for him but you don't need to turn what I said into some Giannis bashing and like people don't appreciate what he's done here.

[FAH1223]

Houston or OKC are the best bets for a trade.

The East is wide open. Obviously Cleveland and New York have the best rosters.

But Giannis is the best player in the conference.

I think he will carry the Bucks to the postseason.

Does he have a 2018 LeBron type run in him?

[tonyreyes123]

Giannis can go already. This is like when you know your GF is flirting with other guys but you keep simping in denial

[humanrefutation]

ESPN getting back to the basics.

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I'm guessing we're going to keep seeing/hearing this heavily to start the year. Really odd timing for this to all get leaked now and does nobody any favors. I love Giannis, but this is partially on him for letting it get this distracting. For someone who says they don't like the drama...

I actually think Giannis is too honest for his own good. It would be very easy for him to just lie to the media and say "I'm never leaving Milwaukee!" while telling Horst, behind the scenes, to make the call. But he's honest. He won't slam the door because, in his mind, he's prepared for the possibility if things get bad this year, and he doesn't want to be accused of misleading everyone about his intentions.

[raferfenix]

Horst better have his best Kuzma plus Bobby and multiple swaps/firsts trade package ready to pull the trigger on at the trade deadline

This is what’s newsworthy to me.

Giannis’ team could be emphasizing to Shams (on background) how excited they are about this new era Bucks team, but instead…

[mke_design]

ESPN getting back to the basics.

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I'm guessing we're going to keep seeing/hearing this heavily to start the year. Really odd timing for this to all get leaked now and does nobody any favors. I love Giannis, but this is partially on him for letting it get this distracting. For someone who says they don't like the drama...

I actually think Giannis is too honest for his own good. It would be very easy for him to just lie to the media and say "I'm never leaving Milwaukee!" while telling Horst, behind the scenes, to make the call. But he's honest. He won't slam the door because, in his mind, he's prepared for the possibility if things get bad this year, and he doesn't want to be accused of misleading everyone about his intentions.

I don’t think being a fence sitter is viewed any more keenly than a liar. Make a choice. If he doesn’t want to be a buck which, assuming this is all true, you tell him to stay in Greece and wait to be traded in 3 months.

[mke_design]

Why does Myles sign here if Giannis is gone? Was he duped into a lie? He’s a really good player and could have been paid by the Pacers and waited out the storm for the Pacers to rise again. Seems like a really weird decision in hindsight.

[soxperry]

I dont know if any one player that we could feasibly acquire makes us a real contender. But Id like to know who people think that could be.

[El Pooch Grande]

Sad night. Feels like it's over to me. Really thought he was cut from the Dirk/Duncan/Kobe cloth....

Also, the true reason for the relentless Giannis rumors by ESPN and the media: They want this franchise relocated to Seattle ASAP.

Buckle up gentleman, because I'm not sure the Milwaukee Bucks as we know them will exist by the end of this decade, which also makes the trade compensation and rebuild efforts around Giannis moot. Why should we care about a package for a "rebuild" if it's actually truly going to be a rebirth gift for the resurrection of the Supersonics?

[Plossum]

Why does Myles sign here if Giannis is gone? Was he duped into a lie? He’s a really good player and could have been paid by the Pacers and waited out the storm for the Pacers to rise again. Seems like a really weird decision in hindsight.

I thought it was because the Bucks undercut the Pacers to pay Turner more than the Pacers were willing to give him?

Generally it’s always about money.

[Ryan5UW]

Giannis has been one of the most low-key super stars. He's never been in trouble, a good family man, and has been loyal. All this despite having zero connections to this current team, front office, etc. if he's exhausting, I don't know what super star isn't.

The situation is exhausting. Most superstars don't have the same thing going on for 7+ years of rumors. I understand you want to stick up for him but you don't need to turn what I said into some Giannis bashing and like people don't appreciate what he's done here.

Different dynamic/circumstances, but I’m starting to get to the point where I was when Favre was “will I/won’t I” on retirement every offseason for a bunch of years. I’m over all the drama and Giannis’s part in it.

[paulpressey25]

Why does Myles sign here if Giannis is gone? Was he duped into a lie? He’s a really good player and could have been paid by the Pacers and waited out the storm for the Pacers to rise again. Seems like a really weird decision in hindsight.

Pacers lowballed and disrespected him. He got sick of it year after year. And you saw Pacers fans blame him for the finals loss.

Regardless of where this Giannis thing goes it was a great move. Turner is a good player we added for free. $22mm of dead Dame cap space for a rebuilding team is a drop in the bucket.

[paulpressey25]

Horst better have his best Kuzma plus Bobby and multiple swaps/firsts trade package ready to pull the trigger on at the trade deadline, because outside of this team miraculously starting 30-13 or something, can’t see any other way you’re gonna convince him we have any sort of realistic shot at winning a championship this season.

I wouldn’t waste those future draft picks at this point unless Giannis says he’s re-signing.

[Daver]

Stephen A says, "Im moving everyone but Brunson for Giannis."

Hey guess what, Stephen, and league fans in general... if you dont have great draft picks, you are giving up your best player for Giannis. Plain and simple. We're going to be taking other players too. You dont like that? No trade then. Good luck.

As horst has mentioned in the past any giannis trade he wants to gut the other team ..good for him no fu... way if you trade giannis do you not take everything plus more from a team.3 starters and 2 or 3 frps.
Fu... miami said on BR tbey were interested but it wouldnt include bam.....fu.... yuck

[paulpressey25]

Simmons pod tonight. Asked the question—is Giannis unhappy OR is he frustrated. You can work through frustration but unhappiness will kill team momentum.