ALDS Game 3 - Toronto Blue Jays @ New York Yankees Tuesday October 7, 2025, 8:08PM

[pingpongrac]

No IKF and get Santander off the field (just DH him) then I still like our chances. Schlittler was incredible in the WC series, but he was hit pretty hard in both of his appearances against us this season and I think we can get to him early then into the Yankees bullpen by the 4th or 5th inning…which maybe isn’t a good thing considering what they did to us tonight.

[Randle McMurphy]

This is my concern too. After judge homered we went quietly into the night. You could definitely see this stretch Into tomorrow

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They were just lifeless after that and it’s pretty understandable. That was nearly a 2015 level Bautista impact HR in terms of how it may turn a playoff series and the crowd went nuts.

It’s a new game tomorrow, sure, but they need to get off to a good start

Pretty much exactly the reason why you don't give Judge anything remotely possible to hit in that situation. Nearly impossible to recover from that.

Yeah ball has gotta be in the dirt or up at chin level on 0-2

He’s too good

[Mehar]

Springer RF
Lukes LF
Vlad 1B
Santander DH
Varsho CF
Kirk C
Barger 3B
Clement 2B
Gimenez SS

That’s the lineup I’m going with tomorrow. Give me Santander’s bat in a place he can’t hurt you and tell Springer to play outfield.

You could argue for Davis at 2B and Clement at 3B with Barger on the bench and I wouldn’t oppose it either

Barger psychologically might be best to be parked on the bench tomorrow. Go with Clement at third, and Schneider at Second.

[Chris7711]

We still up..don't be so negative and so sure we will get blown out tmrw..we can outsvore them plus lauer has something to prove after getting sidelined while pitching lights out..he can have a great game and their starter can get shelled..springer and kirk are due..varsho and vlad can have big games while others can contribute..

[linery88]

Barger will come up big vs Schlittler.Just play good team defense.Just need reminding of who we are.

[Mehar]

No IKF and get Santander off the field (just DH him) then I still like our chances. Schlittler was incredible in the WC series, but he was hit pretty hard in both of his appearances against us this season and I think we can get to him early then into the Yankees bullpen by the 4th or 5th inning…which maybe isn’t a good thing considering what they did to us tonight.

Too bad it took today's collapse to realize what I have been saying before the start of the series. IKF has no business sniffing any game action, and Santander should be strictly DH or a pinch hitter. The problem is you are counting on Eric Lauer to get meaningful outs. Lauer had been garbage for over a month. Poor velocity and command. Yankee hitters will smoke him tomorrow. Focus on Game 5 at home. Save your best arms for Game 5.

[Chris7711]

Why does Schneider never brings in sir Anthony as the first reliever. This was a high leverage situation with momentum changing..up 6-3, sir Anthony is capable of 2 innings..settle things down

[Randle McMurphy]

Why does Schneider never brings in sir Anthony as the first reliever. This was a high leverage situation with momentum changing..up 6-3, sir Anthony is capable of 2 innings..settle things down

We had 7 innings to get through tonight thanks to Bieber

[Chris7711]

Why does Schneider never brings in sir Anthony as the first reliever. This was a high leverage situation with momentum changing..up 6-3, sir Anthony is capable of 2 innings..settle things down

We had 7 innings to get through tonight thanks to Bieber

Still, why not sir Anthony first??? We needed outs and clean innings..game was shifting

[JaysRule15]

Tonight may have been the last time we see Bieber pitching for the Jays. Honestly I'm not surprised the Guardians gave him away for so cheap despite being a rental. His stuff doesn't look the same at all compared to before.

[Mehar]

Tonight may have been the last time we see Bieber pitching for the Jays. Honestly I'm not surprised the Guardians gave him away for so cheap despite being a rental. His stuff doesn't look the same at all compared to before.

If that is the case, goodbye to him. Frankly, it was worth the gamble, but he is a shell of himself from what he was 3 years ago. It happens coming back from Tommy John. Maybe Gerrit Cole will be the same next year.

[Madvillainy2004]

LMAO right. It's Bieber that made IKF, Barger, and Santander commit those fielding mistakes that cost us.

He was getting shelled all game he gave up 5 100+ mph balls in 1 inning and we might been down 8-6 if we left him in. IKF error was one thing but worst starters than him have had an error committed behind him and locked it down.

We gave up our #4 prospect for this exact game and he folded under the pressure (also partially cause hes off TMJ so maybe hes just not elite anymore). Its not like we asked for a lot getting to the 5th with a 6-3 lead was all he was asked to do. And he not only didnt do that but couldn't even get out of the 3rd inning.

The mistakes by Barger/Tony/IKF were all bad but the game was lost by Bieber ultimately.

Every Yankees starter has folded under the pressure too if we are judging off 1 game.

I mean yeah they have too but id argue they were never given the runway of a 6-1 lead to pitch with either. But Fried and Rodon are also career playoff chokers too lol (career playoff ERA over 5 for both).

[Madvillainy2004]

No IKF and get Santander off the field (just DH him) then I still like our chances. Schlittler was incredible in the WC series, but he was hit pretty hard in both of his appearances against us this season and I think we can get to him early then into the Yankees bullpen by the 4th or 5th inning…which maybe isn’t a good thing considering what they did to us tonight.

Too bad it took today's collapse to realize what I have been saying before the start of the series. IKF has no business sniffing any game action, and Santander should be strictly DH or a pinch hitter. The problem is you are counting on Eric Lauer to get meaningful outs. Lauer had been garbage for over a month. Poor velocity and command. Yankee hitters will smoke him tomorrow. Focus on Game 5 at home. Save your best arms for Game 5.

I dont think Satandar wants to play the field lol Springer has insisted on DHing to keep him fresh and its worked out great so far. But after tn he has to pick up a glove and get out there. Hes also bad in the field but he has experience and won't make run costing mistakes.

[Madvillainy2004]

They were just lifeless after that and it’s pretty understandable. That was nearly a 2015 level Bautista impact HR in terms of how it may turn a playoff series and the crowd went nuts.

It’s a new game tomorrow, sure, but they need to get off to a good start

Pretty much exactly the reason why you don't give Judge anything remotely possible to hit in that situation. Nearly impossible to recover from that.

Yeah ball has gotta be in the dirt or up at chin level on 0-2

He’s too good

With Kirk behind the plate you gotta spike a couple curveballs just to keep him honest its 0-2. Not sure if it was Kirk calling or pre-planned on how they want to pitch to Judge (since it was Varland) but you gotta waste a few there.

[Mehar]

Pretty much exactly the reason why you don't give Judge anything remotely possible to hit in that situation. Nearly impossible to recover from that.

Yeah ball has gotta be in the dirt or up at chin level on 0-2

He’s too good

With Kirk behind the plate you gotta spike a couple curveballs just to keep him honest its 0-2. Not sure if it was Kirk calling or pre-planned on how they want to pitch to Judge (since it was Varland) but you gotta waste a few there.

I was thinking the same before Judge smoked that pitch. Not sure who made that call, but that pitch was an unfortunate mistake that could cost this team the series (if they fail to win one of the next two games).

[JaysRule15]

Yea, the crazy thing is that the double Judge hit in his previous at-bat was also on an inside pitch. So clearly he was seeing those pitches well and he was also staying back in the box to get more coverage at the inside pitches. If you look at his stance you can see that.

Once Varland got ahead 0-2, he absolutely had to waste a pitch or two to see if he could get the chase. Just a questionable pitch that might cost them even more.

Judge being a choker was a huge narrative and we let him recover from that in a single game and given them a lot of momentum.

[Mehar]

Yea, the crazy thing is that the double Judge hit in his previous at-bat was also on an inside pitch. So clearly he was seeing those pitches well and he was also staying back in the box to get more coverage at the inside pitches. If you look at his stance you can see that.

Once Varland got ahead 0-2, he absolutely had to waste a pitch or two to see if he could get the chase. Just a questionable pitch that might cost them even more.

Judge being a choker was a huge narrative and we let him recover from that in a single game and given them a lot of momentum.

Judge as a Choker was a narrative by his haters that I did not really buy. Clearly this franchise is more of a choker after what happened leading 9 to 1 in 2022 against Seattle, and what I saw wth this team today leading 6 to 1 in an elimination game.

[Randle McMurphy]

Yea, the crazy thing is that the double Judge hit in his previous at-bat was also on an inside pitch. So clearly he was seeing those pitches well and he was also staying back in the box to get more coverage at the inside pitches. If you look at his stance you can see that.

Once Varland got ahead 0-2, he absolutely had to waste a pitch or two to see if he could get the chase. Just a questionable pitch that might cost them even more.

Judge being a choker was a huge narrative and we let him recover from that in a single game and given them a lot of momentum.

It means he was also definitely looking inside too, he picked up on the fact they were trying to attack him there

Judge was always a ticking time bomb in the playoffs, he’s too good to keep down forever. Can’t give him the opportunity to beat you like we did

[PushDaRock]

Tonight may have been the last time we see Bieber pitching for the Jays. Honestly I'm not surprised the Guardians gave him away for so cheap despite being a rental. His stuff doesn't look the same at all compared to before.

If the expectation was that he would be back to Cy Young form right away, it's the expectations that aren't realistic. He's been good overall. It's to be expected that the command and consistency on pitches is not going to be exactly where you want it to be in the first year back from TJ. The stuff is still really good when he is on his game as we saw in his debut with us.

[JN]

In his last start against us we hit Schlittler hard .. had him at like 70 pitches in less than 2 innings.

Can’t totally discount the possibility that we put up 5 runs tomorrow over the game Is that enough though?