Who wants Dalton Knecht even as package deal?

[Scoot McGroot]

Knecht to OKC
Kenrich Williams to PHL
Eric Gordon to LAL

Due to apron issues, Philly needs to send a good amount of additional salary out here.

Also, EJ feels the least valuable of these 3 by a fair amount?

[gswhoops]

Vucevic feels like a reasonable target just to get more minutes at center and someone who can be a really nice 6th man.

Vincent/Kleber/Knecht for Vooch

Value is fair, but we dont need Vooch

We need more defensive minded guys, preferably 2 way guys

We have 3 needs

1) Wing defender who can play offense and ideally close games
2) Defensive minded backup C/starting C
3) 3 pt sniper

Theres a chance Knecht can be a sniper this year though

I would only move him if we can get spot number 1 or 2

Those things take assets to get. Don't think what is on offer here is good enough to easily make that happen.

Yeah every team wants wing defenders who can contribute on offense and knockdown 3pt shooters. You need to put actual assets on the table to make a move like that.

[nzahir]

Vucevic feels like a reasonable target just to get more minutes at center and someone who can be a really nice 6th man.

Vincent/Kleber/Knecht for Vooch

Value is fair, but we dont need Vooch

We need more defensive minded guys, preferably 2 way guys

We have 3 needs

1) Wing defender who can play offense and ideally close games
2) Defensive minded backup C/starting C
3) 3 pt sniper

Theres a chance Knecht can be a sniper this year though

I would only move him if we can get spot number 1 or 2

Those things take assets to get. Don't think what is on offer here is good enough to easily make that happen.

We can trade a 1st still

[Godaddycurse]

Value is fair, but we dont need Vooch

We need more defensive minded guys, preferably 2 way guys

We have 3 needs

1) Wing defender who can play offense and ideally close games
2) Defensive minded backup C/starting C
3) 3 pt sniper

Theres a chance Knecht can be a sniper this year though

I would only move him if we can get spot number 1 or 2

Those things take assets to get. Don't think what is on offer here is good enough to easily make that happen.

We can trade a 1st still

OP asked for deals involving knecht + fillers + second round pick(s) only

[babyjax13]

Value is fair, but we dont need Vooch

We need more defensive minded guys, preferably 2 way guys

We have 3 needs

1) Wing defender who can play offense and ideally close games
2) Defensive minded backup C/starting C
3) 3 pt sniper

Theres a chance Knecht can be a sniper this year though

I would only move him if we can get spot number 1 or 2

Those things take assets to get. Don't think what is on offer here is good enough to easily make that happen.

We can trade a 1st still

Yes, that just wasn't in the original post : D

I do think it makes sense as the OP proposed to just look for what Knecht/filler/2nds can get you that doesn't majorly disrupt the rotation. See what you have and what you need after they've played together a bit. Ayton could be really good, he could be close to unplayable as a starter. LeBron could continue to be good, he could fall off a cliff. Luka and LeBron could provide enough playmaking, or they might need a point guard, too, etc. But a minor upgrade to the rotation will be helpful, regardless. The first can be saved for something more major.

[nzahir]

Those things take assets to get. Don't think what is on offer here is good enough to easily make that happen.

We can trade a 1st still

Yes, that just wasn't in the original post : D

I do think it makes sense as the OP proposed to just look for what Knecht/filler/2nds can get you that doesn't majorly disrupt the rotation. See what you have and what you need after they've played together a bit. Ayton could be really good, he could be close to unplayable as a starter. LeBron could continue to be good, he could fall off a cliff. Luka and LeBron could provide enough playmaking, or they might need a point guard, too, etc. But a minor upgrade to the rotation will be helpful, regardless. The first can be saved for something more major.

Ah you guys are right

At this point I wouldn't make a move if its not for one of those guys

I would love a guy like Wiggins before training camp starts, but doesn't feel realistic

So its better to not waste Knecht and package him with the 1st

See what the main needs are a couple months into the season

If Luka is playing like he was a couple years back and Bron is similar to where he was last season (I hope and expect more effort on D and less output on offense, but efficient offense), then they should be able to build a contender

AR is a very nice #3 on offense, just need to see if we have enough defense and athleticism to cover for our main 3 guys

Ayton, Smart, and Vando are 3 big wildcards

If Ayton is like PHX Ayton in 2022 and Smart can be healthy, they should be solid positive impact guys

Same for Vando if he is back to playing like he was with us his 1st year here

If the defense is a mess, I wonder if we look to move AR for a young guy who may fit around Luka better

[zimpy27]

He's a good cheap role player. That's the value, a certain hit in the draft.

His value will drop if he doesn't play well in RS or it could rise if he steps up. For now Lakers value him as a non-lotto FRP.

[SlimShady83]

We can trade a 1st still

Yes, that just wasn't in the original post : D

I do think it makes sense as the OP proposed to just look for what Knecht/filler/2nds can get you that doesn't majorly disrupt the rotation. See what you have and what you need after they've played together a bit. Ayton could be really good, he could be close to unplayable as a starter. LeBron could continue to be good, he could fall off a cliff. Luka and LeBron could provide enough playmaking, or they might need a point guard, too, etc. But a minor upgrade to the rotation will be helpful, regardless. The first can be saved for something more major.

Ah you guys are right

At this point I wouldn't make a move if its not for one of those guys

I would love a guy like Wiggins before training camp starts, but doesn't feel realistic

So its better to not waste Knecht and package him with the 1st

See what the main needs are a couple months into the season

If Luka is playing like he was a couple years back and Bron is similar to where he was last season (I hope and expect more effort on D and less output on offense, but efficient offense), then they should be able to build a contender

AR is a very nice #3 on offense, just need to see if we have enough defense and athleticism to cover for our main 3 guys

Ayton, Smart, and Vando are 3 big wildcards

If Ayton is like PHX Ayton in 2022 and Smart can be healthy, they should be solid positive impact guys

Same for Vando if he is back to playing like he was with us his 1st year here

If the defense is a mess, I wonder if we look to move AR for a young guy who may fit around Luka better

To get Wiggins you'd have to throw the FRP for Heat to even consider it and even then probably doubtful and I myself wouldn't offer FRP for Wiggins.

Should be taking a look at Thybulle as someone above mentioned a little more realistic and shouldn't cost a FRP, maybe SRP.

[SlimShady83]

Knecht, Gabe + SRP for Thybulle?

Blazers get shooting in Knecht
Gabe - needs new team, I like him but.
and SRP, don't think Thybulle is worth a FRP ??

[SkyHook]

He's a good cheap role player. That's the value, a certain hit in the draft.

His value will drop if he doesn't play well in RS or it could rise if he steps up. For now Lakers value him as a non-lotto FRP.

The Lakers should be fine with keeping him then because I don't think that any other team values him at anywhere near the same level.

[zimpy27]

He's a good cheap role player. That's the value, a certain hit in the draft.

His value will drop if he doesn't play well in RS or it could rise if he steps up. For now Lakers value him as a non-lotto FRP.

The Lakers should be fine with keeping him then because I don't think that any other team values him at anywhere near the same level.

Yep they will keep him. He was picked up to bring in a shooting role player at a low price point for 4 seasons.

[Pattycakes]

Yeah Portland offers a second op. Knecht is really looking like he could be headed to Europe

[JRoy]

I wouldn’t offer a SRP from POR.

[BlazersBroncos]

Adding on to this - at best I think Dalton is 'grab bag of SRP' level value - at worse 1-2 SRP.

He isnt worth a FRP at this point and he isnt a needle moving addition to any deal LAL would want to make IMO.

Maybe UTA likes him and would move Svi + 2-3 SRP.

[SkyHook]

Adding on to this - at best I think Dalton is 'grab bag of SRP' level value - at worse 1-2 SRP.

He isnt worth a FRP at this point and he isnt a needle moving addition to any deal LAL would want to make IMO.

Maybe UTA likes him and would move Svi + 2-3 SRP.

Definitely not.

[Michaellam1987]

Knecht's value has dropped a lot, and wont worth a future first now. Packaging him with useless fillers (e.g. Gabe/Maxi) will just make the package even less attractive.

[jayjaysee]

It’s just unrealistic because of Nike.. But Gafford and Martin for Vincent, Maxi, Dalton and second(s) would seem to make sense for both sides.

Dallas using the second(s) with maybe 1-2 of their own to dump one of Maxi/Vincent to save a fortune. Maybe look to dump the other one if possible::

But Dalton comes in and has a small role for Dallas this season but could grow into an important piece..

LAL gets a decent bench two way wing and a strong rotation center..

[jayjaysee]

It’s just unrealistic because of Nike.. But Gafford and Martin for Vincent, Maxi, Dalton and second(s) would seem to make sense for both sides.

Dallas using the second(s) with maybe 1-2 of their own to dump one of Maxi/Vincent to save a fortune. Maybe look to dump the other one if possible::

But Dalton comes in and has a small role for Dallas this season but could grow into an important piece..

LAL gets a decent bench two way wing and a strong rotation center..

[gswhoops]

It’s just unrealistic because of Nike.. But Gafford and Martin for Vincent, Maxi, Dalton and second(s) would seem to make sense for both sides.

Dallas using the second(s) with maybe 1-2 of their own to dump one of Maxi/Vincent to save a fortune. Maybe look to dump the other one if possible::

But Dalton comes in and has a small role for Dallas this season but could grow into an important piece..

LAL gets a decent bench two way wing and a strong rotation center..

Unless Dallas is really looking to cut salary and doesn't care about the on-court impact this year, I can't see them being interested in this.

[bgrep14]

Vando and Knecht for Strus