ALDS Game 3 - Toronto Blue Jays @ New York Yankees Tuesday October 7, 2025, 8:08PM

[Mehar]

Iast thing on Bieber i heard him tell Ken Rosenthal that things have been "tough" for him since coming back and he just isnt getting break on his pitches like he used too. And man if that wasnt the biggest red flag before yday lmao

If that is the case, I would not mind him back on a 1 year deal if he picks up his player option. That is unlikely, so I would go in a different direction for 2026. Say goodbye to Scherzer, Bassitt, and Bieber. Lauer has been exposed and to me he is your 6th Starter if he comes back.

That means this team needs to acquire two more quality Starters. The money will be there with 70 million off the books with Scherzer, Bassitt, Bo, Chad Green's deal, and Bieber not brought back. Bieber choked like a dog at the biggest stage.

[LLJ]

Unfortunately some of our concerns about Bieber were well founded. It wouldn't be so bad if the bullpen weren't also looking like ****.

Can't win a series when you can only really count on 2 of the pitchers on your entire roster.

Quite honestly if our starting rotation is in such bad shape that you're willing to punt Game 4 for a "bullpen game", then we might not have the stuff to go all the way anyway. If Bassitt, Berrios and Scherzer couldn't be counted on in this series, then how would we handle the ALCS?

[WaltFrazier]

Would Springer be better in the outfield than Santander at this point? Would he have caught the ball Santander missed?

Unfortunately Springer isn't having a great series hitting. Need him to break out.

[WaltFrazier]

Sooooo, back to the blue caps tonight?

[JCP11]

On Varland: I don't care what you say, I don't know anybody on this earth including Vladdy that's hitting that pitch out of the park, that was simply ridiculous. I tip my cap to him.

On Bieber: yes it was disappointing but let's be real, only 7 starts coming off TJ, I won't fault him for that. I would still bring him back next season.

This game was lost in those unforced errors. They gave them life when they were almost down. Can't do this in the postseason.

[Mehar]

Would Springer be better in the outfield than Santander at this point? Would he have caught the ball Santander missed?

Unfortunately Springer isn't having a great series hitting. Need him to break out.

Forget Springer, Lukes makes that catch 10 out of 10 times. At Yankee Stadium, with the way the Outfield is designed a guy who has been hobbled all year like Santander had no business playing in the Outfield. If he is not going to be DH, then use him as a Pinch Hitter and sit him.

This front office is so caught up in Lefty vs Righty, that they put a scrub like IKF and a shell of an outfielder like Santander in RF and it burned them. Whatever happens happens, but Lukes needs to be in RF for Game 4 and Game 5.

[Madvillainy2004]

Would Springer be better in the outfield than Santander at this point? Would he have caught the ball Santander missed?

Unfortunately Springer isn't having a great series hitting. Need him to break out.

Forget Springer, Lukes makes that catch 10 out of 10 times. At Yankee Stadium, with the way the Outfield is designed a guy who has been hobbled all year like Santander had no business playing in the Outfield. If he is not going to be DH, then use him as a Pinch Hitter and sit him.

This front office is so caught up in Lefty vs Righty, that they put a scrub like IKF and a shell of an outfielder like Santander in RF and it burned them. Whatever happens happens, but Lukes needs to be in RF for Game 4 and Game 5.

Lukes was never starting verse Rodon (rightfully so) and Satander actually knocked him out of the game with a big single. If anything Satandar was net neutral maybe slightly positive even with the bad error (considering the game felt kinda over anyways) If theres any pitching at all or the rest of the offense could get to the Yankee pen its probably a different story. IKF was FO foolishness but playing a switch hitter verse Rodon was smart and the only reason hes even in the field is because Springer doesnt want to play OF.

[DelAbbot]

Unfortunately some of our concerns about Bieber were well founded. It wouldn't be so bad if the bullpen weren't also looking like ****.

Can't win a series when you can only really count on 2 of the pitchers on your entire roster.

Quite honestly if our starting rotation is in such bad shape that you're willing to punt Game 4 for a "bullpen game", then we might not have the stuff to go all the way anyway. If Bassitt, Berrios and Scherzer couldn't be counted on in this series, then how would we handle the ALCS?

This is our future starting rotation. Just think about it. So much debt of bad moves by this FO, all coming to home to roost

[Madvillainy2004]

Unfortunately some of our concerns about Bieber were well founded. It wouldn't be so bad if the bullpen weren't also looking like ****.

Can't win a series when you can only really count on 2 of the pitchers on your entire roster.

Quite honestly if our starting rotation is in such bad shape that you're willing to punt Game 4 for a "bullpen game", then we might not have the stuff to go all the way anyway. If Bassitt, Berrios and Scherzer couldn't be counted on in this series, then how would we handle the ALCS?

My friends were talking about this in our group chat today but man its crazy how bad all our vets ended it. We basically had like 3 guys go the 2015 Mark Buerhle route (Bassitt/Max/Berrios). Could throw Lauer in there as well but hes actually playing today lmao.

If we got to the CS we probably do the same set-up but I think Bassitt could be ready by then so I think him in a 2015 RA Dickey "please pitch 5 innings and dont totally **** up the game" start in game 4 would be most likely scenario.

[Tacoma]

On Varland: I don't care what you say, I don't know anybody on this earth including Vladdy that's hitting that pitch out of the park, that was simply ridiculous. I tip my cap to him.

On Bieber: yes it was disappointing but let's be real, only 7 starts coming off TJ, I won't fault him for that. I would still bring him back next season.

This game was lost in those unforced errors. They gave them life when they were almost down. Can't do this in the postseason.

At the time Bieber was pulled, my thinking was it was too soon. He wasn't pitching like Gausman and Yesavage but he wasn't that bad either. He walked his last batter but ball 4 looked like a strike. He's a veteran and pitched out of jams before and Jays had 6 runs already.

Yankees had hit Jays' bullpen hard the previous game, so going to the bullpen so early this game probably gave them much needed confidence. Varland starts Game 4 and he gave up 2 runs in an inning pitched yesterday to take the loss and Yankees' confidence grows.

[WuTang_CMB]

Tough call looking back on pulling bieber a little later in the game. I get it on both angles since he wasn't great. Yankees have eaten up our bullpen in back to back games. Tonight is going to be a VERY tough task. Our bats need to carry us more than ever tonight and facing Schittler, that will be even more difficult

[LoveMyRaps]

Alright, now that I'm done being emotional over last night's game.... I think we take tonight's game in a lights out performance by the bullpen.

My score prediction: 4-2

(Hoffman gives up a run in the 9th)

[Randle McMurphy]

Unfortunately some of our concerns about Bieber were well founded. It wouldn't be so bad if the bullpen weren't also looking like ****.

Can't win a series when you can only really count on 2 of the pitchers on your entire roster.

Quite honestly if our starting rotation is in such bad shape that you're willing to punt Game 4 for a "bullpen game", then we might not have the stuff to go all the way anyway. If Bassitt, Berrios and Scherzer couldn't be counted on in this series, then how would we handle the ALCS?

This is our future starting rotation. Just think about it. So much debt of bad moves by this FO, all coming to home to roost

Rotation next year looks like Gausman, Yesavage, Berrios, Lauer, and Varland right now.

Not great, no, but I'd expect them to look to add at least one SP and probably two.

[Randle McMurphy]

Tough call looking back on pulling bieber a little later in the game. I get it on both angles since he wasn't great. Yankees have eaten up our bullpen in back to back games. Tonight is going to be a VERY tough task. Our bats need to carry us more than ever tonight and facing Schittler, that will be even more difficult

Bieber was looking absolutely terrible and we had a 6-3 lead that could end up being the best chance we ultimately had to win the series.

Schneider had to play to win that series right there in that moment with our high leverage guys and not think about today. It just unfortunately didn't work out.

[Potential]

Who are some potential free agents for us this offseason?

[Potential]

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Yesterdays game was a movie. I'll never forget how fun those 1st 2 and a half innings were and I'll leave it at that

[Raps in 4]

Tough call looking back on pulling bieber a little later in the game. I get it on both angles since he wasn't great. Yankees have eaten up our bullpen in back to back games. Tonight is going to be a VERY tough task. Our bats need to carry us more than ever tonight and facing Schittler, that will be even more difficult

The Yankees have basically had a bullpen day each of their 3 games so far. Our only chance tonight is to knock out their starter early again (we hit him well last time we faced him).

[Mehar]

Unfortunately some of our concerns about Bieber were well founded. It wouldn't be so bad if the bullpen weren't also looking like ****.

Can't win a series when you can only really count on 2 of the pitchers on your entire roster.

Quite honestly if our starting rotation is in such bad shape that you're willing to punt Game 4 for a "bullpen game", then we might not have the stuff to go all the way anyway. If Bassitt, Berrios and Scherzer couldn't be counted on in this series, then how would we handle the ALCS?

This is our future starting rotation. Just think about it. So much debt of bad moves by this FO, all coming to home to roost

Rotation next year looks like Gausman, Yesavage, Berrios, Lauer, and Varland right now.

Not great, no, but I'd expect them to look to add at least one SP and probably two.

Keep Varland in the bullpen for 2026. Varland was absolute trash last year with Minnesota as a Starter with an era of 7.61 in 16 games, and in the previous couple of years also as a Starter. Lauer has been exposed as a fraud after the league got the book on him, and has been terrible for nearly 5 weeks. Lauer should definitely not be Pencilled in a Starter. Maybe your 6th Starter/Longman.

This team needs to acquire two new starters for 2026 this off-season. One ideally a front of the line Starter, and another good pitcher who can be your Fourth guy like an Adrian Houser who is a free agent. Berrios right now is Pencilled in as my 5th Starter. Jays will have over 70 million to play with by saying goodbye to Bichette, Bassitt, Scherzer, Bieber, and Chad Green's deal no longer on the books. So, hopefully this front office can beef up the rotation in a more positive way for 2026.

[Boogie!]

On Varland: I don't care what you say, I don't know anybody on this earth including Vladdy that's hitting that pitch out of the park, that was simply ridiculous. I tip my cap to him.

On Bieber: yes it was disappointing but let's be real, only 7 starts coming off TJ, I won't fault him for that. I would still bring him back next season.

This game was lost in those unforced errors. They gave them life when they were almost down. Can't do this in the postseason.

Agreed that was a tough pitch I was arguing with everyone all night I have no idea why people think it was varlands fault. If he hung a curveball that judge mashed I would be the first one to **** on him, but 99% of players don’t do anything with that pitch, they break their bat at best. Just a miraculous swing.

The real blunder was the barger error the play before would’ve been 2 out no one on…

Oh well that’s baseball we still have 3 more games to win the series. Let’s get it tonight.

[Randle McMurphy]

On Varland: I don't care what you say, I don't know anybody on this earth including Vladdy that's hitting that pitch out of the park, that was simply ridiculous. I tip my cap to him.

On Bieber: yes it was disappointing but let's be real, only 7 starts coming off TJ, I won't fault him for that. I would still bring him back next season.

This game was lost in those unforced errors. They gave them life when they were almost down. Can't do this in the postseason.

Agreed that was a tough pitch I was arguing with everyone all night I have no idea why people think it was varlands fault. If he hung a curveball that judge mashed I would be the first one to **** on him, but 99% of players don’t do anything with that pitch, they break their bat at best. Just a miraculous swing.

The real blunder was the barger error the play before would’ve been 2 out no one on…

Oh well that’s baseball we still have 3 more games to win the series. Let’s get it tonight.

Judge is and always will be in the 1% of players who can do something with that pitch, which is exactly why any 0-2 pitch needs to be somewhere he can’t hit it

Not a “bad” pitch by any kind of traditional standard but not good enough in the situation and the result shows that